Let's assume Apple Glasses are real. AR ideas?

Would you use AR glasses with the features in the OP?

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MandiMac

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I'll start:

- non-obstrusive notifications (think like Mac banners flying in on the side)
- always-on Shazam (like Now Playing notification banners)
- subtitles for persons speaking (bonus: highlight them with colors and color the subtitles accordingly)
- navigation purposes, like Apple Maps extension
- ViewTime; like FaceTime but the called person see's what you're seeing (ie for support purposes)
- and of course games like Pokémon Go

What are your ideas? :)
 
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Vanilla35

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I'd like to see any video overlay. Like the floating video features with youtube and videos on android/samsung. It would be cool to be watching a youtube video while walking to the metro, etc.
 

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I'd like to see any video overlay. Like the floating video features with youtube and videos on android/samsung. It would be cool to be watching a youtube video while walking to the metro, etc.
Wouldn‘t that be too obstrusive?
 
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Vanilla35

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Wouldn‘t that be too obstrusive?
It would probably be 40% transparent, and a soft color.

Here's kinda what I'm talking about. Look at the map on the top left - that's what I imagine a video could look like with smart glasses. But that may be the only thing being displayed, unlike this photo which has many other things. It would probably still need to be off to the side, in the corner.

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MandiMac

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It would probably be 40% transparent, and a soft color.

Here's kinda what I'm talking about. Look at the map on the top left - that's what I imagine a video could look like with smart glasses. But that may be the only thing being displayed, unlike this photo which has many other things. It would probably still need to be off to the side, in the corner.

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Basically like a mini-map in a game, gotcha. Could be working if it‘s the only thing when navigating for example :)
 
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Basically like a mini-map in a game, gotcha. Could be working if it‘s the only thing when navigating for example :)
I imagine I have like whatever "content" I want on the left side; youtube video, facebook/instagram feed, email, etc. Then on the right side I would be able to have all my notifications/quick reply actions set up
 

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I imagine I have like whatever "content" I want on the left side; youtube video, facebook/instagram feed, email, etc. Then on the right side I would be able to have all my notifications/quick reply actions set up
Still I guess there shouldn‘t be too many complications at once as it‘s directly in your line of sight - could be too much of a hinderance. How would you reply though, touching the glasses all the time?
 
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I think AR glasses utilizing some improved translation technology good enough to give you subtitles of a person speaking a foreign language as they are talking to you is one of the most exciting prospects.

Imagine going to a foreign country and just being able to talk to someone via those subtitles.
 
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MandiMac

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Health data in real time, like pulse and so on, ECG when actually doing it, ... Could be really great!
 

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It could even help with math or crosswords. If you‘re seeing an equation like y = 2x^2 and you scan that equation, you could see a small diagram floating next to your vision. Crosswords would follow the same principle, scan the hint and get a solution. Would be a nice addition - third party apps, eh?
 

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Voice commands and dictation
Siri on the Glasses would be a given, I think. Great for replying to messages and mails. But to have to input every command like „left, up, down“ for general navigation in public would make it unusable in tight spaces or public transportation. Google Glass with touch frames isn’t the answer either, as you’re not hands-free. I‘m guessing eye tracking of some sort, with Face ID-like sensors, which is activated by looking in a corner first (think Active Corners on Mac). Could be non-obstrusive.
 

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Siri on the Glasses would be a given, I think. Great for replying to messages and mails. But to have to input every command like „left, up, down“ for general navigation in public would make it unusable in tight spaces or public transportation. Google Glass with touch frames isn’t the answer either, as you’re not hands-free. I‘m guessing eye tracking of some sort, with Face ID-like sensors, which is activated by looking in a corner first (think Active Corners on Mac). Could be non-obstrusive.
I'm almost 100% confident it'll be touch based gestures (swipes) paired with voice, for the first iteration. What comes after that with facial recognition is not really tangible or known yet. I can imagine at some point there may be air gestures you can make with an accessory device like this: Hands Free Keyboard (1) or this Hands Free Keyboard (2)
 

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I'm almost 100% confident it'll be touch based gestures (swipes) paired with voice, for the first iteration. What comes after that with facial recognition is not really tangible or known yet. I can imagine at some point there may be air gestures you can make with an accessory device like this: Hands Free Keyboard (1) or this Hands Free Keyboard (2)
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Swipes and voice was the first iteration, namely Google Glass. The Hands Free keyboards are nice ideas, but they don‘t actually solve a problem: You can‘t use them in day-to-day situations like walking, shopping or driving and it complicates things. You‘re right, every vendor aside from Apple would use such a solution. Apple Glasses will be less obstrusive, more elegant and will fit in our lives. :)
 

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Swipes and voice was the first iteration, namely Google Glass. The Hands Free keyboards are nice ideas, but they don‘t actually solve a problem: You can‘t use them in day-to-day situations like walking, shopping or driving and it complicates things. You‘re right, every vendor aside from Apple would use such a solution. Apple Glasses will be less obstrusive, more elegant and will fit in our lives. :)
I'm mostly trying to talk about what apple and others will probably do when they release their standalone glasses in 1-2 years. Google glass may have been from 2013, but I'm almost certain the tech they use today will be mostly the same. Glass didn't fail because the product sucked, it failed because it was too early to market.

But now that wearables are here (smart watches), this will basically just make for an even more convenient "watch" type product.

The device is going to be extremely basic in its first iteration. Think Apple watch 1. They didn't even really start to introduce features until the 3rd generation.

If we're talking 8+ years from now and what the product category would look like at maturity, then yeah I could see there being new technology we don't currently have in place. Idk what that would be right now. Some sort of more accurate hand or eye tracking with lasers and such?? Neural connectivity at some point? The military already has patents for smart contact lens with wireless technology and microchips in the lens.
 
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MandiMac

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I'm mostly trying to talk about what apple and others will probably do when they release their standalone glasses in 1-2 years. Google glass may have been from 2013, but I'm almost certain the tech they use today will be mostly the same. Glass didn't fail because the product sucked, it failed because it was too early to market.

But now that wearables are here (smart watches), this will basically just make for an even more convenient "watch" type product.

The device is going to be extremely basic in its first iteration. Think Apple watch 1. They didn't even really start to introduce features until the 3rd generation.

If we're talking 8+ years from now and what the product category would look like at maturity, then yeah I could see there being new technology we don't currently have in place. Idk what that would be right now. Some sort of more accurate hand or eye tracking with lasers and such?? Neural connectivity at some point? The military already has patents for smart contact lens with wireless technology and microchips in the lens.
Well, you're right, but tech has been moving quite a bit since 2013. Take Face ID for example, its sensors are so accurate that they can be used for eye tracking as well. Infrared even works in the dark, so there's that. Glass was rocking a big ol' camera on the glasses, no wonder others were quick to avoid it.

If Apple Glasses are anything like Apple Watch Series 0, we're seeing big success. Let's agree to disagree about the first Watch having no features. Scribble, notifications, heart rate monitor, even some game apps - there was lots of innovation going on.

Smart contact lens would be a PITA to take on and off. It should be simple and non-invasive, so a frame like for glasses would be perfect. Love to be surprised though.
 
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I'll start:

- non-obstrusive notifications (think like Mac banners flying in on the side)
- always-on Shazam (like Now Playing notification banners)
- subtitles for persons speaking (bonus: highlight them with colors and color the subtitles accordingly)
- navigation purposes, like Apple Maps extension
- ViewTime; like FaceTime but the called person see's what you're seeing (ie for support purposes)
- and of course games like Pokémon Go

What are your ideas? :)
I would like to see it compatible with the Apple Store App itself. I would like to be able to look at the move around all of the Apple Products in 3d to get a good feel for them.
 

MandiMac

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I would like to see it compatible with the Apple Store App itself. I would like to be able to look at the move around all of the Apple Products in 3d to get a good feel for them.
I think all AR use cases we know today will be compatible with Glasses day one. That's what ARKit is for, and touch input could still happen on the phone.
 

MandiMac

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- subtitles for persons speaking (bonus: highlight them with colors and color the subtitles accordingly)
I think AR glasses utilizing some improved translation technology good enough to give you subtitles of a person speaking a foreign language as they are talking to you is one of the most exciting prospects.
Imagine going to a foreign country and just being able to talk to someone via those subtitles.
How cool would it be if there was a real-time-translation going on? For example, a Japanese person, an American person and a German person could talk in their native tongue, but everyone has Apple Glasses and therefore understands what's being said because of subtitles in their vision. Exciting! :)