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So, Apple Glass is real. Your AR ideas?
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That is respectable and fine. And that's exactly why we're excited about AR instead of VR that is known for separating people from the real worldI prefer to live in the real world without glasses
As long as we can turn this off, since I no longer trust Apple with privacy.
That was a thought if always-on Shazam happens on-device, just like the speech recognition. Wouldn't make much sense if there'd be the need of being always online and uploading the ambient sound. But if I may ask, what happened?
Yeah for now. However...I prefer to live in the real world without glasses
Apple had no issue convincing people to wear watches who never wore them when the product was compelling.
Apple had no issue convincing people to wear AirPods when they looked ridiculous and most people didn't use wireless headphones. Now they are as normal as can be, to the point where people use and wear cheap knock offs that look like them.
I suspect Apple will have no issue convincing people to start wearing glasses when they see the experience they are missing out on otherwise. There are plenty of us who already wear glasses who won't think twice about switching to smart glasses to get things started.
Now, the VR headset they are supposed to be coming out with sooner...not sure how they are going to pull that off. VR has an inherent problem of conflicting with the inner ear, which is a non-starter for a lot of people and a lot of use cases. Plus a headset is intrusive and hurts the head after long periods.
But just like everything we have seen come out of ARKit since its inception, this is a neat proof of concept that isn't good enough for anything other than demonstrating the "future potential" of AR. Which seems to be all we have ever been able to do with ARKit...demonstrate some sort of future potential. We're never "there" yet. True AR needs to be seamless and believable. People won't accept cartoony representations and fuzzy edges in the masking of their environment...not for a real, everyday experience in a product. This is no fault of your own, just the limits of ARKit and AR technology in general, at present.I can do one better, I can show what my AR idea is because I'm already developing it with ARKit
The Measure App is a perfect representation of what AR looks like today.
"Look how cool this is! We can measure things with AR!"
"Great. Is it accurate?"
"Well....no, you're still gonna want to measure it in reality if its even remotely important."
"Well, that's useless then isn't it?"
"Pretty much. But makes for a cool demo!"
I really want to believe in the future of AR, but some quantum leaps in quality are going to be needed for a product like Apple Glasses to exist.
I have been editing Insta360 videos on muy mac and I have learned that I want to see everything at the same time. I do not want to have to turn my head in VR goggles. Nor do I want to have to scroll around. I want to see in all directions in the same field of view.
I know that in the short time that I have been editing the videos, I can easily adapt to the Dragonfly full 360 degree field of view. And it is amazing. … I can say this because I also drive Rideshare, and when not driving rideshare, I have mounted the Insta360 to the top of my car shooting 360 degree video.
This is what happens when I am editing on a screen that is big enough, that I can also get close enough to to see exceptional detail relatively speaking, I can see cars coming up behind me, cars coming into the intersection to fast, I can see the airplanes and helicopters above. I can locate the police cars and emergency vehicles visually before I actually hear them. I can see speeders coming up fast behind me long before I would notice them in any rear view mirror. I can do all of this while watching the road in front of me. The botom line is that I can see everything, and identify threats.
There have been tests long ago, where people wore glasses with prisms that inverted normal eyesight. After a very short time, the tested peoples brains adapted, and they saw the inverted images in the same way that they were used to seeing reality, without the glasses.
That is the augmented reality I want. I want expanded vision. I do not want to see through a little window.
Jack
I know that in the short time that I have been editing the videos, I can easily adapt to the Dragonfly full 360 degree field of view. And it is amazing. … I can say this because I also drive Rideshare, and when not driving rideshare, I have mounted the Insta360 to the top of my car shooting 360 degree video.
This is what happens when I am editing on a screen that is big enough, that I can also get close enough to to see exceptional detail relatively speaking, I can see cars coming up behind me, cars coming into the intersection to fast, I can see the airplanes and helicopters above. I can locate the police cars and emergency vehicles visually before I actually hear them. I can see speeders coming up fast behind me long before I would notice them in any rear view mirror. I can do all of this while watching the road in front of me. The botom line is that I can see everything, and identify threats.
There have been tests long ago, where people wore glasses with prisms that inverted normal eyesight. After a very short time, the tested peoples brains adapted, and they saw the inverted images in the same way that they were used to seeing reality, without the glasses.
That is the augmented reality I want. I want expanded vision. I do not want to see through a little window.
Jack
I want to see some Hololens capabilities (Remote support: Facetime in VR/AR with AR annotation features) - a better Passthrough mode than the solution of MetaQuest2/Pro or Pico4, so that the VR glasses (surround solution for AR glasses) get nice AR capabilities. Still love the mixed reality approach especially for business and I wish that apple will make it tangible with their first release. And for sure I also want to have the option to meet colleagues and friends in a mini golf session (e.g. walkabout mini golf smash hit). I am also okay for various glasses bands so that apple can make money to generate some ROI. A flexbility for glasses of different strengths would be mind blowing. I am wearing glasses and to turn them off for the MEta devices is annoying, to just keep on wearing them (Hololens2) is magic.
What do u think, guys?
What do u think, guys?
Apple have the wrong idea when it comes to AR devices. They will want to build a new iOS-style platform where they can 100% control the entire experience via an app-led, data-push paradigm.
What we have being built though is an internet-of-things, where every device, signpost and building is equipped with sensors pushing out data like our current server-based web.
Future AR devices need to be built on a common open platform that can pull in and parse this data into useful forms for the citizen. This could be anything from the temperature of the roads to the battery level of your car, just by gazing at it. Thus AR devices become the 'web browsers' of the internet-of-things where common and open source technology powers it from the very start and anyone can build technology to access it.
This would be similar to how scientific equipment has no software but instead lets a web browser dial in to a local IP to collect its data. There would be no need for applications, anyone could put things out there and the whole setup would be futureproof.
Instead of publishing your mood or jokes to a thankless, faceless globe your local community would be able to read data pulled in from opt-in people in your city. This would allow local businesses to access free IRL viral marketing and change social media to be the people in your neighbourhood.
Via IOT AR has the power to enhance our cities, bring communities closer together and encourage people to get more involved in their neighbourhood.
What we have being built though is an internet-of-things, where every device, signpost and building is equipped with sensors pushing out data like our current server-based web.
Future AR devices need to be built on a common open platform that can pull in and parse this data into useful forms for the citizen. This could be anything from the temperature of the roads to the battery level of your car, just by gazing at it. Thus AR devices become the 'web browsers' of the internet-of-things where common and open source technology powers it from the very start and anyone can build technology to access it.
This would be similar to how scientific equipment has no software but instead lets a web browser dial in to a local IP to collect its data. There would be no need for applications, anyone could put things out there and the whole setup would be futureproof.
Instead of publishing your mood or jokes to a thankless, faceless globe your local community would be able to read data pulled in from opt-in people in your city. This would allow local businesses to access free IRL viral marketing and change social media to be the people in your neighbourhood.
Via IOT AR has the power to enhance our cities, bring communities closer together and encourage people to get more involved in their neighbourhood.
Yeah, I'm sure Apple's solution is a hugely resource intensive object recognition system, whereas what will actually happen is QR code stickers on everything (and a world of hilarity as people QR-bomb things with prank / graffiti / malware stickers).
The "HUD for everyday life" people are in for such a shock at how not good their dreams are in practice.
Can't help but chuckle at today's newsfotainment that Apple's AR Headset efforts are in a shambles, with internal dissent over whether the product is viable.
The last new thing Apple did was the watch, which is in a market deathspiral falling 18% year over year, because the only thing people really want it for - health tracking, is both the thing it's worst at because of short battery life, and as court cases seem to be affirming, Apple built it on stolen IP.
I keep thinking about how Steve Jobs would react to the glasshole 2.0 folks wanting a HUD over their vision in everyday life, whenever they suggest a thing the tech could do, and Jobs' response is always "why the f^&k would you want to do that?"
i wonder how the next MR expected in June to be presented will be from experience point of view
If you indeed have high resolution display/s you need a powerful SoC...and that heats a lot, so cant imagine people will sit with these on if the heat is to high
If you indeed have high resolution display/s you need a powerful SoC...and that heats a lot, so cant imagine people will sit with these on if the heat is to high
Turns out that IOT network I was talking about has been stealth built by Amazon over the last decade!
I've thought of a killer app for the Apple headset. As soon as I get approved for a $3000 loan, I'm going to buy the Apple headset thing and download a "Rate my sandwich" app. So while I'm making a PB&J sandwich in the morning with the headset on, the "Rate my sandwich" app will see what I see and rate my PB&J a 3 out of 10 because I'm not very good at making PB&Js... ☹️