Let's be totally honest...

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by BeyondtheTech, Apr 11, 2015.

  1. BeyondtheTech macrumors 68020


    Jun 20, 2007
    You guys have been quick to pile on Apple's third-party manufacturing factories in China for treating their workers without the proper dignity and respect...

    But you're currently miffed that they're not churning out your WATCH fast enough for a quicker delivery date.

    We can't have our cake and eat it too. ;)
  2. SHNXX macrumors 68000

    Oct 2, 2013
    I think those workers in China (I'm in China right now) are happy to earn a decent living.
  3. MH01 Suspended


    Feb 11, 2008
    People just care about getting thier new device asap.
  4. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

    Nov 7, 2007
    New Sanfrakota
    I wouldn't want to rush them. The last time that happened, the iPhone 5 made their way into retail boxes full of nicks and scratches and they didn't care.
  5. Ries macrumors 68000

    Apr 21, 2007
    Pay a man nothing and it is called slavery, pay him a nickel an hour then it is called capitalism.
  6. largefarrva macrumors 6502a

    Jun 30, 2012
    I'm hoping that we hear some sales numbers within the next day or two.

    Apple has been making these watches since late February-early March, and with almost two months of manufacturing (between starting production and the actual release date of the 4/24) they have either sold a metric butt-ton of watches or the manufacturing yield has been extremely poor.

    Maybe those quality control issues (a thread here linked an article saying that less than 30% of watches being made didn't have some sort of QC issue) we read about on here in March were true?
  7. Gav2k macrumors G3


    Jul 24, 2009
    Demand outstrips supply with apple frequently and tbh I'll happily wait for a quality product. There is a lot of hand processing in the apple watch. Name a manufacturer of quality hand finished watches that could produce this quantity quicker?!

    As for the whole Chinese workers thing, well they que up for the jobs so it can't be that bad ;)
  8. tigres macrumors 68040


    Aug 31, 2007
    Land of the Free-Waiting for Term Limits
    I find this entire release odd. I did not buy one, but I read the news like everyone else on the boards.

    Tim announces it Sept 9 2014, 213+ days ago.
    Pre-orders sell out in minutes.
    Personally, I find it hard to believe they had millions built.

    I don't recall if same was done on iPhone or not, but I do remember just walking in and buying one a couple of weeks after release.
  9. matrix07 macrumors 601


    Jun 24, 2010
    What phone are you using?
  10. bking10 macrumors member

    Sep 21, 2014
    I guess the nets around the building are for aesthetics then
  11. Gooberton macrumors 65816

    Jun 20, 2010
    It's not that
    They should have pushed the launch back a month or known what supply they would have before the debacle
  12. nfl46 macrumors 604

    Oct 5, 2008
    I think it's more or less, we are giving Apple our money weeks in advanced and getting these ridiculous dates. But, on the bright side, the money doesn't come out until it ships. Hopefully people remember weeks and months down the road that nearly $500 or more is coming out their account. Lol.
  13. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Oct 23, 2010
    Banks love this because they can make a ton of fees on unsuspecting people.
  14. AppleFan360 macrumors 68020

    Jan 26, 2008
    You are correct. I find a bit of hypocrisy in that as well.
  15. SHNXX macrumors 68000

    Oct 2, 2013
    Let's be totally honest...

    If they had better options, they would quit and go there.
    China is the most capitalist economy in the world.
    It's the Westerners who mistakenly believe that these people need to be rescued.

    No, this is what rapid economic development from a third world nation into the first world looks like.

    GDP per capita in China is about 6000 USD.
    Software engineers out of universities often make only about 1000 dollars per month, even though a nice studio in Beijing costs 1000 dollars a month.
    Salaries in China are low throughout society.
    Why should Apple overpay these workers if there are many willing to work for this much and do a good job?
  16. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    Well, there is still too much state intervention and outright state ownership of large enterprises to consider China the "most capitalist economy in the world." That distinction might go to Hong Kong (technically part of China, but still quite different). However, your basic point is right in that they have greatly liberalized their economy over the last 30 years and are moving more people out of poverty more quickly than any other country in the history of the world (of course, they have more people to lift out of poverty than any other country in the history of the world, with India right behind them).
  17. antman2x2 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 1, 2011
    New YAWK
    It has indeed been strange. The fact that I watched with my very eyes, shipping dates slip in MINUTES was super strange.
  18. BillyTrimble macrumors 6502a

    Sep 20, 2013
    Thanks for pointing this out. I agree. As protest for the deplorable working conditions in China and most of the world, I cancelled my order. I would appreciate it if you would identify those items in your life that aren't essentials and are produced by the oppressed and that you will now be disposing of.
    If you have an iPhone, that MUST be the first to go.
  19. Lloydbm41 macrumors 68040


    Oct 17, 2013
    Central California
    Had nothing to do with China. Might want to get your facts straight before jumping on top of that high horse.

    The problem with the lack of watches is centered in South Korea and a company called LG that can't produce enough quality OLED displays. Apple should have gone with Samsung... again.
  20. twisted-pixel macrumors 6502a


    Sep 13, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    they took the money from my AmEx already...so they will have my money, and I will have no product, for a month already
  21. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    We don't know who is making the S1 chip. My guess is that Apple will go with Samsung for the S2 since Samsung has a 14nm process that would help Apple improve power consumption (i.e. extend the battery life). As for the displays, since Samsung has been using AMOLED a lot longer than Apple and in more devices, it's possible that Samsung Mobile has a lock on Samsung's capacity there. At the very least, Apple might not have the same kind of leverage it normally has on other components.


    That might just be the pre-authorization.

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