Lets compare? PLease help?

[comda]

Greetings!

I have a little bit of a dilemma. I Currently own a decent little machine. Its a 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13" model Identifier 12,1. Long story short due to a massive issue with a used Macbook Pro 9,2 i bought i got it as a free replacement for that 9,2. Issue is i dont fully like it. My Dream Machine is a 2012 Macbook Pro 15" with the 2.6Ghz Intel i7 and that 1Gb Geforce 650M. I dont like the fact the retina has no dvd drive, no ability to run Windows 7 via bootcamp, no power, or battery LED's no iGPU, and no kensington lock. The biggest issue i have is that there is NO upgrabability.

So what im asking is if i where to get that 2012 Macbook pro 15" with the 2.6Ghz i7, and that Geforce 650M 1Gb what advantages and or disadvantages am i getting over this Retina macbook pro which i wish to sell. MIne has 8gb Ram and a 1Tb SSD in it.

Suggestions Please?

 

[VAGDesign]

You can sell and buy one you like from eBay. Last month I bought my 15" Early 2011 MBP from eBay UK and just upgraded to 16GB RAM and 480GB SSD. Partitioned the drive and boots 10.11.6/Win 10 Pro within 10".

The only downside on 2011 and 2012 models is that you can't connect them to external 4K monitors. While the Retina models can work well with 4K monitors.

I hope this helps.

 

[JTToft]

Disadvantages: No 802.11ac Wi-Fi, slower storage, no Thunderbolt 2, no built-in HDMI, no Retina display, heavier and larger, no high-resolution display support, will be excluded from OS X updates sooner in the future.

Advantages: Larger screen, faster CPU, and the things you mention. And possibly antiglare screen if you opt for that.

 

[comda]

You can sell and buy one you like from eBay. Last month I bought my 15" Early 2011 MBP from eBay UK and just upgraded to 16GB RAM and 480GB SSD. Partitioned the drive and boots 10.11.6/Win 10 Pro within 10".


The only downside on 2011 and 2012 models is that you can't connect them to external 4K monitors. While the Retina models can work well with 4K monitors.

I hope this helps.

Yeah thats sorta what im after. the fact that i can upgrade and i can get more from the gpu/CPU combo

I cant afford a 4k screen anyways. so no issue there.
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Disadvantages: No 802.11ac Wi-Fi, slower storage, no Thunderbolt 2, no built-in HDMI, no Retina display, heavier and larger, no high-resolution display support, will be excluded from OS X updates sooner in the future.

Advantages: Larger screen, faster CPU, and the things you mention. And possibly antiglare screen if you opt for that.

Wow. really appreciate the feedback. but let me ask this. If the CPU and GPU are better then my retina, why do you believe it will be cut from support sooner?

 

[MacInTO]

Wow. really appreciate the feedback. but let me ask this. If the CPU and GPU are better then my retina, why do you believe it will be cut from support sooner?

It will still be a while before they cut support for these models. They were discontinued in late 2013. I have a 2012 15" that was manufactured 10/2013 and has Applecare until the end of 2016. I also imagine they sold them in the refurb store for sometime after they were discontinued.

I find these machines more versatile than the retina. I like upgradeability and I can swap out the SSD as I wish. I switched from a 2012 15" rMBP to the 2012 cMBP and like it much better! I have the high definition matte screen (1680x1050) and to me, it's not that much different than the retina, but it's way better than the 1440x900 screen.

 

[JTToft]

Wow. really appreciate the feedback. but let me ask this. If the CPU and GPU are better then my retina, why do you believe it will be cut from support sooner?

- Apple's requirements for OS updates tend to focus a lot more on model years than on CPU or GPU specifications. So expect the 2012 to be dropped roughly three years before the 2015. With macOS Sierra this fall, they're dropping the Mid 2009 MacBook Pros for the first time. Based on that, the 2012 will be excluded in 2019.

 

[MacInTO]

With macOS Sierra this fall, they're dropping the Mid 2009 MacBook Pros for the first time. Based on that, the 2012 will be excluded in 2019.

I read this too, but found it confusing because they state they are still supporting the 2009 MacBook, but not the 2009 MacBook Pro. Weird because they are practically the same machine.

 

[JTToft]

I read this too, but found it confusing because they states they are still supporting the 2009 MacBook, but not the 2009 MacBook Pro. Weird because they are practically the same machine.

- Quite. I made that same point in another thread. There's literally nothing I can find which justifies that difference. Unless it's because the MBP is four months older than the MB...

 

[jerryk]

I wonder if there is a piece of hardware like display that they do not want to support.