Let's Create a Master List of Features That Will Make for the "Perfect" iPhone

[maflynn]

Not so, when it comes to Apple, they've already established that no one knows better than they do.

Agreed, they've established themselves not by having focus groups telling them what people want, but rather telling people what they want, and its not on the apple product, then they don't want it.

These aren't really wishes but rather practical features I expect to see at some point that would make the iPhone the best it could be.

These are more pie in the sky sort of things. For example:

Optical zoom capabilities.

- A camera on-par with professional cameras, including in manual adjustability.

I don't expect to see a professional camera in the phone, the physics of the space allowed in the phone, make it impossible. Sensor size, aperture, are two examples why professionals use DLSRs. While the iPhone can and does take amazing photos, the DSLR and other professional type cameras offer superior image quality.

 

[lagwagon]

I don't expect to see a professional camera in the phone, the physics of the space allowed in the phone, make it impossible. Sensor size, aperture, are two examples why professionals use DLSRs. While the iPhone can and does take amazing photos, the DSLR and other professional type cameras offer superior image quality.

Not only because of the sensor sizes and quality (no way could the 50mp full frame sensor from the Canon 5ds/5dsr ever fit in a phone) while aperture can get fairly open (s7 has f/1.7 but because the lenses are so small it's not the same as what would be f/1.7 on a Canon or Nikon lens for a full frame 35mm sensor) and it's a fixed aperture. Not adjustable.

Another big reason smartphone cameras will never come close to actual DSLR's are the optics. Quality sensors are important but good optics are just as important. The tiny lens on a phone will never compete against much larger, higher quality glass, and more elements. Then back to aperture. A tiny phone lens can't have adjustable aperture, which is very important and 1/3 of the exposure triangle.

It's just physically not possible. Maybe over time some sensor could get there, but by then full frame DSLR sensors will have advanced even further as well. And it still would be missing half the puzzle that are the optics.

 

[MICHAELSD]

Not only because of the sensor sizes and quality (no way could the 50mp full frame sensor from the Canon 5ds/5dsr ever fit in a phone) while aperture can get fairly open (s7 has f/1.7 but because the lenses are so small it's not the same as what would be f/1.7 on a Canon or Nikon lens for a full frame 35mm sensor) and it's a fixed aperture. Not adjustable.

Another big reason smartphone cameras will never come close to actual DSLR's are the optics. Quality sensors are important but good optics are just as important. The tiny lens on a phone will never compete against much larger, higher quality glass, and more elements. Then back to aperture. A tiny phone lens can't have adjustable aperture, which is very important and 1/3 of the exposure triangle.

It's just physically not possible. Maybe over time some sensor could get there, but by then full frame DSLR sensors will have advanced even further as well. And it still would be missing half the puzzle that are the optics.

That's the reality of the situation now, but with the way optics and sensors advance annually I believe new technologies will lead to an iPhone camera being close enough to a DSLR from 2016 at some point; it's a matter of when in my opinion. The camera is one of the main components aggressively upgraded annually, so eventually mobile manufacturers will have to remain stagnant or find new technologies that overcome obstacles such as optics or a fixed aperture.

If Apple were to release an iPhone Pro in addition to the Plus and standard models, who's to say they wouldn't offer larger cover glass and sensors in the future?

 

[lagwagon]

That's the reality of the situation now, but with the way optics and sensors advances annually I believe new technologies will lead to an iPhone camera being close enough to a DSLR from 2016 at some point; it's a matter of when in my opinion. The camera is one of the main components aggressively upgraded annually, so eventually mobile manufacturers will have to remain stagnant or find new technologies that overcome obstacles such as optics or a fixed aperture.

If Apple were to release an iPhone Pro in addition to the Plus and standard models, who's to say they wouldn't offer larger cover glass and sensors in the future?

That glass would have to take up a minimum half the size on the back of the phone and would have to make the phone inches thick (depending on the focal length) even if they went with a 40mm pancake style lens it would be at least an inch thick just to fit all the elements and groups.

It's just impossible for such tiny lenses on a phone to ever compete.

Dual lens coming this fall for the Plus (or Pro) does improve things. But the small optics just physically can't compare to the real thing. I don't know the exact math, but for any phone lens to compete against an f/1.2 on a 50mm or 85mm lens. It would have to be WELL below f/1 especially when it comes to Depth of Field.

 

[electronicsguy]

That's the reality of the situation now, but with the way optics and sensors advance annually I believe new technologies will lead to an iPhone camera being close enough to a DSLR from 2016 at some point; it's a matter of when in my opinion.

You can't change the laws of physics how much ever you innovate. "SLR" (or professional) quality photos need more light, plain and simple. They only way to get that is to have more light fall on the sensor in the first place (ie: with a lens with a large enough diameter). There's not way to fundamentally change that.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

...or you could just look up the specs on the Galaxy S7 Edge.

 

[geta]

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