Let's help this poor young guy

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by botolo86, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. botolo86 macrumors newbie

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  2. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    eh no thanks

    i couldnt care care less what he does
     
  3. Schtumple macrumors 601

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    Meh, let him get a PC, means it'll be nicer for him when he does have to get a mac.
     
  4. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    Let them all rot in PC hell

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
     
  5. Schtumple macrumors 601

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    Just noticed he wants to be a programmer... Quite the windows fanboi he'll turn into...
     
  6. dsnort macrumors 68000

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    C'mon Dawg, don't be like that!

    On the other hand, I'm a firm believer that instead of trying to convince others to buy Mac, we should have an application process! You know, you have to prove your worth, ( an IQ test being central to the process! ). :D
     
  7. natebookpro macrumors 6502a

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    Wow wish I had a $3000 laptop when I was going into 8th grade. Wait... I wish I could afford a $3000 laptop now! :D
     
  8. yoyomaster macrumors regular

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    I think that will be mom and dad forking it out for that one :)
     
  9. Unprocessed1 macrumors 65816

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    Haha! That's so sick and demented, but 100% true.
     
  10. botolo86 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You are right but I cannot stand the bulls**t that they are saying against Macs. Check this out:


    I would get a PC.. Try looking at http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
    PC=Variety of specs, options, quality, prices, vendors, support
    Mac=One vendor, limited options, still more expensive. Look below for more information..

    Today, Macs use a subset of PC hardware. Why spend extra to get the same CPU chips, graphics cards and OS X isn't as secure as you think..

    Don't believe the lies that Macs are better than PCs at graphics/animation.. Dreamworks Animation http://www.dreamworksanimation.com/ under studio click on Technology of Animation, an independent film maker I know uses PCs, a graphic artist I used to know uses PCs also.

    A number of PCs can also run OS X (Mac OS) http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=os+... as well just that Apple makes it illegal in order to get Market share.. The reason why Mac can run native Windows is because it is using a subset of PC hardware,

    If you decide to buy a Mac for running Windows, you will still have to get the same virus/spyware protection, and run into the same issues as a regular PC.

    Now is a Mac worth buying for OS X?

    I say: NO... for the following reasons...

    ADVANTAGES WINDOWS :
    Aprox 90% of the market is Windows and most PCs have windows already pre-installed.
    1) Some websites require Internet Explorer, to run IE on Mac you really get ies4osx which is the Windows version of IE running really buggy and illegal if you don't have a legitimate copy of Windows.
    2) Supports devices (printers and other things you hook into the computer).
    3) More business software/games
    4) Want the dock on OS X (Mac)? google/yahoo rocketdock, objectdoc.
    5) Used by businesses.

    ADVANTAGES LINUX :
    1) FREE (most versions are)
    2) Install software by eitjher 1) Synaptic Package Manager, 2) Add/Remove 3) Opening a .deb or .rpm file (depending on distribution)
    2) Like the Mac OS X effects? go yahoo/google COMPIZ FUSION which can do any cool effect a Mac can do and many ore....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3gkX9HDf... (there is no flickering when you use it like on the video, not sure why the person has the flicker)
    3) Mac OS X Doc? google/yahoo Avant Window Navigator.Cairo Dock, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3rf5q_...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0hzi22g2...
    4) It is FASTERr/MORE SECURE to surf on the internet
    5) Some Windows programs work with Wnehq/Crossover (also avail on Mac, but why pay $$$)

    Instructions how to download, burn and boot http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-v...
    Dual Boot Instructions http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windo...

    SECURITY
    Mac OS X was hacked in 2006 less than 30 minutes, and within 2 minutes in a contest in 2008, and within 10 seconds in 2009. In 2008, Linux and Vista were not hacked until another day when restrictions were lowered. Vista was next, and then Linux. In 2009 Windows 7 fell shortly after the Mac but Linux was unscathed.
    Macs are standardized with Cameras, if your Mac gets hacked, the hacker can turn on your camera with more ease.
    Please Note: All OS's have vulnerabilities.
    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/so...
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/2...
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/03/1...
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft...


    VIRUSES
    Mac OS X has viruses (and significantly on the rise), a friend of mine has a virused Mac. As more users use Macs, more viruses will come out for it. Especially when users think "they are safe".
    http://infosecurity.us/?p=4005
    http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives...
    http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/ar...

    QUALITY/PROBLEMS
    Contrary to belief, Macs are not better quality. Apple also has been changing suppliers to try to "lower the price" and thus lowering quality. Even with the lower prices, Macs still cost more, they spend a higher percent of budget trying to make it look pretty, and marketing.

    Sample of problems: Overheating Macbooks, OS X- not responding to keyboard, some units with 16bit screens, etc. Apple statistics are misleading since Mac users with problem machines are more likely to go out and buy a new computer than PC users. Apple is lowering prices which means you can expect lower quality than in the past. Apple had switched the manufacturers producing parts. OS X also has problems slowing down.
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-100202...
    http://www.tuaw.com/2008/08/01/apples-qu...
    http://www.appledefects.com/
    http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os-x-op...

    Repairs are more expensive than PCs since the IMac, Mac Mini are compact units, and Apple charges a premium for their services. Some repairs can be done by another repair service but the compact design of the computer causes problems.
    With an IMac, if the problem is with the monitor, the whole computer would have to be brought in.
    IMac and Mac mini lack expansion.

    PRICE
    A similar equipped PC is much cheaper to purchase than Mac. Lets use Dell (but you can compare with another PC Brand if you like)
     
  11. 01jamcon macrumors 6502a

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    You know what, that's one of the best arguments for buying a PC (with Linux preferably) that I've read in a long time. I couldn't properly argue with most of that, and its somewhat backed up with informative links.
     
  12. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Links which are...wrong? The virus thing is absolute trash.
     
  13. Ricanlegend macrumors 6502a

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    LMAO
     
  14. instaxgirl macrumors 65816

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    That was my first thought. The guy seems a bit lazy to me to be honest, instead of starting another PC vs Mac war he should go and actually use the computers, see what he likes best.

    Both the Mac and the PC fans answering annoy me. The PC lot are spouting the usual rubbish and the Mac fans are the sycophantic kind. The best in balanced online advice for the kid.
     
  15. Consultant macrumors G5

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    http://www.apple.com/getamac/

    LOL, ever heard of iPhone apps? People make quite a bit of money with that.
     
  16. TRAG macrumors 6502

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    Sometimes there is just no use trying to convince a long time Windows user. They are just too afraid of change and bring up the same arguments (price, lower specs). The only way - if ever - that those type of guys will switch is if they have a close Mac friend and actually use OS X for a while. Until then, you're beating a dead horse with a stick.
     
  17. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    Sometimes there is just no use trying to convince an Apple fanboi as they're too afraid to admit that there could be something else out there.

    Sorry but this BS goes both ways and the OP is clearly worked up over nothing.
     
  18. Schtumple macrumors 601

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    No, never, what is this iPhone you speak of?

    (I have on for crying out loud, the guy wants to learn CC+, or whatever it's all called, he WILL become a MS fan boy...)
     

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