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I tried replacing my 2012 MacBook Air with an iPad Air during my second year of college and it just ended up being an inconvenience. Many of my textbooks were online and Safari on the iPad just couldn't handle them. I also frequently found myself needing software that wasn't available as an iPad app and printing documents from an iPad wasn't possible on the printers at my university.

While I appreciated the portability, I just don't see what the benefit to an iPad is over a normal laptop. I considered picking up an iPad Pro and a smart keyboard to bring with me to class and then supplement it with a MacBook that I would leave at home, but I ended up picking up an rMBP instead. With the cost of an iPad Pro and a keyboard you are better off just buying a MacBook or a Windows PC.
 
Depends on the school and what classes. I know in law school (and the state bar exam) we had to use installed Examsoft for essays; this was only 5-7 years ago. It was a desktop app only as it locked you out of the rest of the computer so you could't cheat or use notes. iPad wouldn't work for that.
Times change. There weren't iPads when I was in law school or my first state bar exam. I think there were when I took the third state's bar but tablets were still relatively new and unsupported.

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As to the people who say "Well you can just use the school's computer lab." You do realize that if you are stuck using a computer lab to get your work done, then the iPad has not fulfilled your needs as a personal computer. Then consider that a typical 20k person university has maybe 50-100 computers available and you could get stuck putting your name on a waiting list and spending hours extra of your time just to complete a task that could have been much shorter if you had your own laptop.

You may be stuck using the Computer Lab anyway. Just because you have a laptop, doesn't mean you can afford all of the needed software. I had a Windows laptop (initially, then switched to a Mac) for my Computer Science degree. I also took some graphic design courses and I was NOT going to buy Quark (even the student edition) for 1 semester. I also did not buy Director - I used the computer labs for those.

You are right - the computer you need may not be available at the time you need it (though, I think if a school has 20,000 students and only 100 available computers, the university needs to re-think it's policy). Having said that, I never had an issue finding an open computer.
 
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I agree that right now, most colleges just aren't set up for students to use iPads as primary computing devices. Especially online courses. Those online course systems are horrible, and are designed with desktops/laptops in mind.

That said, there are some colleges experimenting with, or going full-on iPad/tablet. So it depends on the curriculum and what they're recommending.

In any case: your college might be making use of texts that have electronic versions available, and often times the e-texts are cheaper than the print copies. When I went back to school recently to get another degree, I took advantage of this a lot, and saved a lot of money on e-texts. Between that and convenience of carrying a .98 pound tablet instead of several pounds of bulky textbooks around, AND being able to organize all my notes on the same device, I'd say the iPad showed its worth to me, and came pretty close to paying for itself.

If you can wisely afford an iPad in addition to a good laptop, I would recommend going for it. It will help out quite a bit, but you will be hampering yourself if you buy JUST an iPad and expect it to do everything.

Speaking of hampering yourself...

I'm a Mac, but I cannot justify spending $1200 when all you need is a $350 computer that will handle all of your assignments

No. A $350 computer WILL NOT serve you well in college. It might at the start... just barely. But if you expect a bottom-rung low-end computer to last through your entire college career (and by that I mean, you don't plan on dropping out in year 2), you're going to have some real problems later on, and you might find yourself camping out at the computer lab or borrowing someone else's computer, especially if you procrastinate on your papers and assignments. And I guarantee you, you WILL procrastinate.

If $350 is truly all you can afford, then yeah, it can't be helped. I know because as an undergrad, I was broke and that WAS all I could afford. That computer started to really suck after my freshman year. It got slow, new and updated software took forever, and everything I did on it took longer than if I had done it on a decent system. Using the computer lab ended up being the better option until late in my junior year, when I was able to scrape up the cash and buy a decent, proper system. And of course the $350 PC was totally worthless by then, so I didn't even have the resale value benefit that most Mac users do. But the difference between the crap computer and the decent one was night and day, and in the end I really wished I had planned better and saved/begged/borrowed a couple hundred dollars more from the start, to not have to learn that lesson the hard way.

Buying a computer for college means you should spend wisely, not cheaply. For some people (a lot of people actually, based on what I've seen) that means buying a Mac and using it through graduation and beyond. For other people, it's buying a more sensible (but not barebones) Windows computer.
 
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I agree that right now, most colleges just aren't set up for students to use iPads as primary computing devices. Especially online courses. Those online course systems are horrible, and are designed with desktops/laptops in mind.

That said, there are some colleges experimenting with, or going full-on iPad/tablet. So it depends on the curriculum and what they're recommending.

In any case: your college might be making use of texts that have electronic versions available, and often times the e-texts are cheaper than the print copies. When I went back to school recently to get another degree, I took advantage of this a lot, and saved a lot of money on e-texts. Between that and convenience of carrying a .98 pound tablet instead of several pounds of bulky textbooks around, AND being able to organize all my notes on the same device, I'd say the iPad showed its worth to me, and came pretty close to paying for itself.

If you can wisely afford an iPad in addition to a good laptop, I would recommend going for it. It will help out quite a bit, but you will be hampering yourself if you buy JUST an iPad and expect it to do everything.

Speaking of hampering yourself...



No. A $350 computer WILL NOT serve you well in college. It might at the start... just barely. But if you expect a bottom-rung low-end computer to last through your entire college career (and by that I mean, you don't plan on dropping out in year 2), you're going to have some real problems later on, and you might find yourself camping out at the computer lab or borrowing someone else's computer, especially if you procrastinate on your papers and assignments. And I guarantee you, you WILL procrastinate.

If $350 is truly all you can afford, then yeah, it can't be helped. I know because as an undergrad, I was broke and that WAS all I could afford. That computer started to really suck after my freshman year. It got slow, new and updated software took forever, and everything I did on it took longer than if I had done it on a decent system. Using the computer lab ended up being the better option until late in my junior year, when I was able to scrape up the cash and buy a decent, proper system. And of course the $350 PC was totally worthless by then, so I didn't even have the resale value benefit that most Mac users do. But the difference between the crap computer and the decent one was night and day, and in the end I really wished I had planned better and saved/begged/borrowed a couple hundred dollars more from the start, to not have to learn that lesson the hard way.

Buying a computer for college means you should spend wisely, not cheaply. For some people (a lot of people actually, based on what I've seen) that means buying a Mac and using it through graduation and beyond. For other people, it's buying a more sensible (but not barebones) Windows computer.

I should have mentioned most degrees, unless you are going for something very specialized you won't need much.

Also I'd like to mention that I completed a bachelor's degree in Computer Science with no more than a $500 laptop, yeah it got slow at times but it did the job. If you are going into something more specific say graphic and design or programming, yeah you will spend quite a bit more on a computer.
 
No. A $350 computer WILL NOT serve you well in college. It might at the start... just barely. But if you expect a bottom-rung low-end computer to last through your entire college career (and by that I mean, you don't plan on dropping out in year 2), you're going to have some real problems later on, and you might find yourself camping out at the computer lab or borrowing someone else's computer, especially if you procrastinate on your papers and assignments. And I guarantee you, you WILL procrastinate.

If $350 is truly all you can afford, then yeah, it can't be helped. I know because as an undergrad, I was broke and that WAS all I could afford. That computer started to really suck after my freshman year. It got slow, new and updated software took forever, and everything I did on it took longer than if I had done it on a decent system. Using the computer lab ended up being the better option until late in my junior year, when I was able to scrape up the cash and buy a decent, proper system. And of course the $350 system was totally worthless by then, so I didn't even have the resale value benefit that most Mac users do. But the difference between the crap computer and the decent one was night and day, and in the end I really wished I had planned better and saved/begged/borrowed a couple hundred dollars more, to not have to learn that lesson the hard way.
$350 actually gets you fairly decent computing power nowadays. If you search for deals, that'll get you a relatively decent Core i3. Build quality leaves something to be desired, though. There's a reason SSDs are becoming the norm nowadays. Short of select corner cases (CAD-work, etc), x86 processors have reached a point where they're fast enough that the storage subsystem has become the bottleneck in modern computers.
 
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I have never had a website incompatibility since doing college applications more than a decade ago. IE's stranglehold is long-dead, and if a college hasn't figured that out it's probably a warning to the student. A great deal of college students are going to schools with Macs these days, and they clearly aren't having issues.

No doubt depending on your options and college requirements you can get a cheaper computer and be fine, but interoperability concerns are highly variable and for the vast majority of people irrelevant.

As for referencing... writing three or four term papers a year I've never felt like I needed separate reference software. The bigger issue is how you're going to type everything quickly. And like most issues, the web probably obviates the need for standalone software in that regard (plenty of online ref formatters.)

What year is it? That's the same question I was asking schools back when I was going to college in 2009 - 2013. Chrome had already taken the market by storm and I would have much rather used that. I still find some school websites using archaic ActiveX controls and it makes me cringe.

Having a Mac for college isn't necessary by any means, I used to have the same mindset that a Mac was best, after 7 years working in the computing industry, I'd say save your money where you can. Having a Mac is nice, love my 27" iMac along with my 13" MBP and 11" MBA but to be honest, unless you are getting your computer from your parents save your money.

If you are going in for something like graphic design, music, or movie production, yeah get a Mac the tools that come with it are fantastic and the pro apps are even better. You have to remember that whatever company you work for will, most of the time, buy you the best computer for your job.

There are still a lot of changes that need to be made, but most importantly is the relevance of the material, unless it's an age old accounting technique that has never failed.

All I'm saying is that if you can get a Mac for school, go ahead, but the wise solution to the problem is get a dirt cheap computer and save your money for that high-end device when you actually need it.
 
No. A $350 computer WILL NOT serve you well in college. It might at the start... just barely. But if you expect a bottom-rung low-end computer to last through your entire college career (and by that I mean, you don't plan on dropping out in year 2), you're going to have some real problems later on, and you might find yourself camping out at the computer lab or borrowing someone else's computer, especially if you procrastinate on your papers and assignments. And I guarantee you, you WILL procrastinate.

A lot of people I know got through uni with $500 Dell laptops.
 
Yeh idk where people think a cheap laptop wont work in college. it works fine for taking notes, Word/Excel, browsing the web and any exam or class software you need.

I used a Dell Mini 9 netbook my first 2 years of law school just fine. It wasnt a home computer but a cheapo that was super portable.

and you dont but a latop based on re-sale lol. Laptops ALL have very little resale value after a few years of use.

You can't claim college indigency and then be worried about it exceeding your use scenarios or re-sale. Or get a cheapo computer to do those specific tasks that can only be done on a PC and a lower level 32gb wifi iPad (since wifi is mostly everywhere on campus) for the rest like notes etc.
 
I agree with the op, the iPad is not there just yet.

Well it can be for the bulk of the adult population who want to email and surf the web and watch/listen to content. There is always use scenario that doesn't fit with any device. It just simply cannot appease everyone.

But people like to take generalizations, like it can replace your PC, and find every tiny exception for some reason as if it was meant to apply to every single person out there.

I've said it 5 times now in this forum, companies have target audiences and they are not 100% of the population by any stretch; that would be impossible.
 
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I feel as though college students feel the need to buy a Mac for the status in college, perhaps it's a "More expensive means better" mindset instead of "What is the minimum absolutely necessary for this" mindset. In college I had to have a Mac, I was one of those people, after college I realized all I really needed was my original cheap-o that got me through half my associates degree without a problem. That being said, my Mac did well for me and got the job done just as well, but I could have gotten the job done while paying a whole lot less.
 
I feel as though college students feel the need to buy a Mac for the status in college, perhaps it's a "More expensive means better" mindset instead of "What is the minimum absolutely necessary for this" mindset. In college I had to have a Mac, I was one of those people, after college I realized all I really needed was my original cheap-o that got me through half my associates degree without a problem. That being said, my Mac did well for me and got the job done just as well, but I could have gotten the job done while paying a whole lot less.

Almost no one needs a Mac for uni, especially in engineering/science. Plain and simple, I bought my mid 2009 15" MBP for fashion statement back then. So did many others with Macs at my school.

However, I think stat/com sci students DO prefer Macs... I was shocked to see 95%+ of the students had notebooks with Apple logos lit up in class. I thought Windows or Linux was the choice for coding, but I don't know... Can someone in com sci explain this? lol
 
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In reality, a broke college student would only need pencil and paper while using their college's computer labs. They definitely don't need an expensive ipad. I rather be an economical college student than a flat out broke one.

When I went to college at the very end of the 1990s into early 2000s I had paper/pen and a desktop in my dorm. Graduated college more than just fine.
 
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I feel as though college students feel the need to buy a Mac for the status in college, perhaps it's a "More expensive means better" mindset instead of "What is the minimum absolutely necessary for this" mindset. In college I had to have a Mac, I was one of those people, after college I realized all I really needed was my original cheap-o that got me through half my associates degree without a problem. That being said, my Mac did well for me and got the job done just as well, but I could have gotten the job done while paying a whole lot less.
Went to college in the Philippines in early 2000s. Back then/there, if you even had a laptop (doesn't matter what brand), your parents were most likely millionaires (PHP 1M ~= USD 25K). I had a custom-built dual-boot Windows/Red Hat Linux desktop at my dorm and even that put me solidly in the middle class category.

Now that I think about it, it's actually pretty crazy how much I take for granted nowadays. A single iPad used to be half a year's worth of earnings for my mom and 4 years worth of tuition at the state university I attended.
 
In reality, a broke college student would only need pencil and paper while using their college's computer labs. They definitely don't need an expensive ipad. I rather be an economical college student than a flat out broke one.
This is true for my college and major. I had 7am EEE classes and I'd see upperclassmen walking around in their PJs getting coffee from the vending machine because they pulled an all-nighter at the computer lab. And yes, there were actually showers in our building for those pulling all-nighters. :p
 
Here's the bottom line: With each generation the iPad can do more and more of what a laptop can do. The number of people who can make the switch grows with each generation. But unless your needs are basic, you should not yet assume you can ditch a traditional computer entirely. If you can, I envy you. While iOS has some cumbersome aspects, it sheds so much of the annoying overhead of a traditional PC that I find it a very refreshing change. I'm currently using the most iPad-like full PC available for my work: the Surface Pro 4. For a Windows machine, it's terrific. But it's still Windows, it's still far from fully pen and finger optimized, and it still has glitches. The iPad is the most pure experience you can find. It just needs to evolve a bit more to get all the way there.
 
It depends.

Is iPad Pro gonna be your ONLY "computer" NOW? Probably not.
Is iPad Pro gonna replace your laptop while you have a desktop at home? Probably

You have to admit, in some areas such as note taking, documents reading, iPad Pro, or any iPad is far superior than any laptop.

It really depends on what you do, and what you study.
Like if you study computer science and code all day everyday, iPad or any iOS device will probably not meet your needs. But if you study something like history, literature, or even mathematics, itS probably gonna be awesome

And the bottom line,
I was a student at a decent university, studied math. And I had no problem using an iPad (not iPad Pro though, pro didn't exist at the time) as my main device. I use my iPad to take notes, write homework. I only use my iMac to do something like watch movies, YouTube kinda stuff because of the big screen. The only bummer I had was some professor did not accept a homework that was written on iPad and printed out.
 
If you are going in for something like graphic design, music, or movie production, yeah get a Mac the tools that come with it are fantastic and the pro apps are even better.

Even the design/graphic thing isn't true anymore. You can run the Creative Suite just as well on a Surface as you can a MacBook.

You have to remember that whatever company you work for will, most of the time, buy you the best computer for your job.

If by "best computer for your job" you mean "the cheapest they can get because they lease machines from Dell"... Then yeah. ;)
 
Even the design/graphic thing isn't true anymore. You can run the Creative Suite just as well on a Surface as you can a MacBook.



If by "best computer for your job" you mean "the cheapest they can get because they lease machines from Dell"... Then yeah. ;)

Not necessarily, I know companies who provide their employee's with Macs for CAD and graphic design applications, yes some companies get Dell computers and others get HP, but even then, your average data entry employee might get an i3 budget pc whereas people in marketing might get a higher end workstation with a speedy i5 and FirePro or Quadro graphics, going even higher, you might have application engineers who would get quad-core i7s with mid-range dedicated graphics. All depends on the need of the job, if every person got high-end $2,000 PC then there may be an issue with the budget. Just because companies move bigger numbers than the average person doesn't mean they have unlimited funds.

Coming out of college I thought everyone should get high-end PCs. It's a company that makes millions if not billions of dollars a year, they can afford it, now that I've been working closer with the actual budget there is so much more to it than just PCs.

For instance, I'll give you some real numbers for a company with 250 computers. Keep in mind that the overall budget is split up and prioritized by critical departments, sad to say but most companies don't prioritize their IT very high and then complain that the computers are slow.

You have to supply 250 computers with Office, make sure the network is set up with routers, switches, and/or hubs and include an ASA firewall. Linux will not be maintained and you need a server hosting AD/DNS, DHCP, a web server, a database server using MS SQL, an Exchange server, and failovers for each of them, including a backup server that allows you to backup to tape and you'll need to do Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Quarterly, and yearly backups. You also need to supply phones to all upper management (lets say 20 people) with unlimited data plans, make sure phones are up, and include the cost of your internet service and telephone service.

Now make all of that work with $350,000, each subsequent year you'll get $150,000 to maintain all of the hardware and pay the bills. While you are figuring that out on paper, the first thing you are going to realize is you don't have enough money to spend, so you start looking at the low end computers and only going above that when the job function already needs it, even if you get smart and cut a sharp corner with a Hyper-V server, if you want to host all of those servers on one Hyper-V host, that host box is going to cost you at least $35,000 without licensing, plus you have your failover server so x2 except for licenses which carry over as long as you are not using both servers at the same time. You have exchange licensing for 250 users as well. Phones aren't cheap, internet service isn't cheap, especially if you have more than one site.

There is a huge difference between college theory training and real world, and if you come out of college thinking that's how the world works you're going to be desperate for a job until you figure out that real world plays by different rules.

School just teaches you theory, best practices, and bare minimum standards. The real world teaches you practical application and figuring out a way to achieve X when your alphabet only gets you to G.

Anyone who has been working in their field for longer than 5 years will agree with me on this.
[doublepost=1459813192][/doublepost]Sorry for getting way off topic, but it relates more with college education than iPad in the classroom.
 
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Regarding SAS (or R), you probably don't need it for any undergrad degree. If you are pursuing a graduate degree of any kind, you won't make it through without it.

From the opposite point of view (teacher v student), we try to go platform agnostic when possible. It's easier on us as well as the students, Unfortunately, the software companies are not keeping up as fast as they should. Our system uses an application system-wide for grades/attendance and everything else. But you still can't enter or change grades on an iPad! It's infuriating.
 
All I'm saying is that if you can get a Mac for school, go ahead, but the wise solution to the problem is get a dirt cheap computer and save your money for that high-end device when you actually need it.

And I certainly agree in theory. My program "required" a pro-level laptop, and definitely if I'd skimped I would have been far worse off for my video production; nowadays though since FCP is out and CC is in you could probably get a Windows laptop and be fine.

If you're in some liberal arts program virtually any laptop can perform well, although I do believe some of the advice here is penny-wise, pound-foolish in getting a computer that can last or hold its value versus one you chuck and forget after three or four years.
 
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