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Gee, well done.. That I know!! 8GB is barely enough to run Mavericks, let alone a semi-professional app such as Final Cut Pro X...

You're talking cock.

Free RAM values are irrelevant, only RAM pressure is relevant.

Free RAM is wasted RAM. Peak efficiency is when free RAM is almost zero, because it's ideal to have as much RAM as possible to be compressed and/or cached.
 
Frankly I was just waiting for the new i7-5557U processor at 3.1Ghz and Iris 6100. Instead I also got:

RAM: the 1600MHz DDR3L is replaced by faster 1866MHz LPDDR3
SSD: 2 x faster apparently.
Touchpad: with the fancy taptic sensor
Ports: dual 4K support thanks to the new Iris
Battery: 71.8wh got a boost to 74.9wh

So yeah, I'm pretty happy.
But obviously when Skylake takes off somewhere in 2016 all we will probably see a brand new design. But I can't wait that long.

I cant wait to hear your report on the touch pad and performance from the spec bump. I want to order within the next week. Actually, I did not see the Tim show and was going to look at ordering the 12" until I saw what it was. I also have looked at the new Dell 13" but I tell you just that website of theirs turned me off and I have read the trackpad still sucks.

I currently have the Late 2013 13" rMBP with 8GB RAM running Parallels and a mandatory work software program has maxed me out on RAM. Also, I like to move my laptops before the battery starts to age (while I can still get a fair price selling on CL) Let us know how you like the new computer!

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13 inch Retina MBP with 8 gb RAM, 256gb SSD and 2.7 GHz Core i5 now costs CAD$1799!!! :eek: That's what I paid for my 15 inch MBP with 4gb RAM, 256gb hard drive and Core 2 Duo 5 years ago... How times have changed. Now the cheapest 15 inch MBP is CAD$2449. Gonna save up for the new 15 inch model. I would love to finally experience Retina display on my MBP.

Slip into Detroit, we have several Apple stores that will save you a few hundred. Ok, the stores are not IN Detroit, in the suburbs...:D
 
I spent a pretty penny on my mid 2012-2013 rMBP. Been waiting to upgrade my baby because the battery is slowly dying. I'm disappointed that the 15 inch MBP never gets any love, year after year. Are they going to take it away like they did the 17 inch? It's been years since they've had a refresh or a real update. :confused::( I'm at lost.

Technically yes, practically no.

It's going to be a 14".

And the other 15" model is now $3049, a nice $350 increase for nothing (no updates either). Was looking to get one, but now there's no way.

Currency fluctuations in the exchange rate. Complain to your national central bank, not Apple.

The upgrade used to be, as in the old silver Macbook Pro's was hard drives and add more RAM..

With the new Macbook Pro's you cannot change the RAM, or the Hard drives, you are lumped with what you bought.. This is bad as it prevents replacements for faulty parts, crashed hard drives, dodgy RAM.

The macbook pro is not professional...13 inches is a joke, Jony has no clue about the world of creative work..

Apple is returning to the traditional two distinctions between the Air and the Pro (or, as it is now, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro).

The 13" MacBook Pro was never meant to be a 'Pro'. It was for the 15" and 17". It used to be just called the "MacBook Aluminium", before shifting it to becoming just the "MacBook" when the "MacBook White" was phased out.

In the future, it'll just be: MacBook(/Air) 12", and the MacBook Pro 14". Two models.

Given the technology in the 12" MB, I can safely say that apple will make the 15" MBP thinner, and it will employ the new keyboard and touchpad and usb-c.

Outside of that, and the broadwell chipset, I don't believe there's much else to add.

A proper nVidia Maxwell-based discrete graphics card to support a new display in the 14" MacBook Pro, and in addition, do proper Retina-level performance without any UI lag.

Apple cant do a much thinner 15" MBP without either dropping Thunderbolt or waiting for Thunderbolt 3.

So for the 15" to get USB-C, I think we will have to wait for Skylake.

(And of course, there will not be a dGPU.)

There will be a dGPU in the 14" MacBook Pro.

Apple technically can do a thinner 14" MacBook Pro by dropping Thunderbolt 3. I'm sure they're going to repurpose the USB 3 Type-C port for T.B. 3 purposes.
 
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Frankly I was just waiting for the new i7-5557U processor at 3.1Ghz and Iris 6100. Instead I also got:

RAM: the 1600MHz DDR3L is replaced by faster 1866MHz LPDDR3
SSD: 2 x faster apparently.
Touchpad: with the fancy taptic sensor
Ports: dual 4K support thanks to the new Iris
Battery: 71.8wh got a boost to 74.9wh

So yeah, I'm pretty happy.
But obviously when Skylake takes off somewhere in 2016 all we will probably see a brand new design. But I can't wait that long.

Is the SSD 2 X faster than even the MBP 15" models? Or are they now the same?
 
DDR4 is not supported til skylake a bit of research would have told you that was not going to happen.


Did not know that. Thanks!

I started seeing DDR4 on the PC side of things last year with workstations and the x99 chipsets so thought we were there already.
 
I am going to get the 13" macbook pro as soon as it gets to europe
but I am still concerned .. I will have to pay 1700€ for the version with 256gb SSD :/

Originally I was planning to get the 16gb ram upgrade but now it is another 250€ which is waaaay overpriced and over the value that I am willing to spend on a computer

the increased ssd speeds are going to be awesome ! It is going to double the read and write performance of the 15" brother.
 
Am I missing something in the store? I can't find port specs for the MBPs

Do I have this right - the 12" is the new slim, light one listed under MB, no fan and very limited ports (one?).

The 13" are the same form factor as before and are listed under the MBP section? I just want to confirm the ports on the 13's
 
I'm hoping for the 2015 15" rMBP they update the graphics & CPU, faster memory, include the fancy new trackpad, and LEAVE THE PORTS ALONE.

Apple's obsession with thinness is getting out of control.
 
The macbook pro is not pro if the use of the letters p r o means professional.

I can understand fully, and back the decision to use non replaceable hardware in ultra portable devices such as the Macbook Air and the ipads and iphones. When it comes to the top end of the portable range of Apple products, the Macbook Pro, these need to have user replaceable parts.

I know many people use the Macbook Pro as the base for video editing, if they are needing to edit "on the road" then they use a Macbook Air along with FCP X and proxy media, the workflow for this is great, does not consume a huge amount of internal data on the SSD.

The Macbook Pro sits on a desk, connected to SANS, external keyboards, monitors, speakers, mice of one kind or another, generally not all that portable.

What is needed is a device that is small, portable with a screen larger than 13 inches, smaller than 27 inches.. This could be the ideal size for the 17inch Macbook Pro, small is does not need to be, it could have at least 32GB RAM, 1 or 2 TB SSD, and 4 USB 3 or the new new USB-C ports, you can never have enough ports!!

If this came out, I would sell my car in a heart beat, to be able to use FCP X, with enough screen real estate, and if need be, take my older retina mac on the road, I am all for that...:)

Smaller devices such as Airs, Macbooks could be pooled to create local render farms is such is needed...

I do not feel the current range of Macbook Pro laptops are professional..They are not...My 8GB retina macbook pro is a hunk of junk, creating proxy files chokes the RAM so it stalls.. this is what Apple calls professional...:(
If you really want a lot of power and to be able to swap parts around, you're generally going to buy a desktop unless you're an idiot. Any serious Final Cut X work is going to ether be done on an iMac (where you can upgrade the CPU, RAM and HDD/SSD) or a Mac Pro (where you also get to swap the GPU's).

I've personally never heard of any professional video production environment that has tried using laptops for anything other than making low quality rough cuts on the go. It's ether iMacs, Mac Pro's or PC equivalents to the Mac Pro. Mind you, I personally have family that works in both in professional TV and film production.

I'm hoping for the 2015 15" rMBP they update the graphics & CPU, faster memory, include the fancy new trackpad, and LEAVE THE PORTS ALONE.

Apple's obsession with thinness is getting out of control.

I doubt they're going to do anything about the ports the same way they didn't do anything to the 13" model other than upgrade the CPU, GPU and trackpad. What they did was really just to release a new model under an old moniker.
 
I do have a question about the new 13" rMBP, if you guys can enlighten me. If I understood things right, the reason (one of them) for them not updating the 15" model is because there is no i7 Broadwell yet. But when I choose the updated 13" model, I can config it up to an i7 processor.

It reads
Processor

Enjoy incredible performance from the fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core i5 or i7 processor. Your 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display comes as standard with a 2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor. You can upgrade the processor up to a 3.1GHz dual-core Intel Core i7.

Intel’s fifth-generation dual-core processors house the processor, L3 cache, Intel Iris Graphics 6100 and fast 1866MHz memory controller on a single chip. These processors feature Turbo Boost technology that automatically boosts the processor clock speed based on workload, giving you extra processing power when you need it. And Hyper-Threading technology allows two threads to run simultaneously on each core. This enables the processor to deliver faster performance by spreading tasks more evenly across a greater number of cores.


2.9GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz

3.1GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz [+ £146.40]

Now, when they say "fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core i5 or i7 processor", do they mean:

  • (fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core i5) or (i7 processor)
  • (fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core) (i5 or i7 processor)

In other words: is the i7 configuration Broadwell as well, or only the i5? (Clearly not a processor expert here, haha)
 
Am I missing something in the store? I can't find port specs for the MBPs

Do I have this right - the 12" is the new slim, light one listed under MB, no fan and very limited ports (one?).

The 13" are the same form factor as before and are listed under the MBP section? I just want to confirm the ports on the 13's

You are correct. The new little Macpad is all by itself. The 13" Macbook Pro Retina adds a 5 gen (new processor) a little faster, with better integrated graphics and a slight increase in battery life, it also gets the new non-hinged touchpad (Trackpad) I hope that helped!
 
I do have a question about the new 13" rMBP, if you guys can enlighten me. If I understood things right, the reason (one of them) for them not updating the 15" model is because there is no i7 Broadwell yet. But when I choose the updated 13" model, I can config it up to an i7 processor.

It's because there are no Quad Core broadwell processors available. The 15" is a quad core only machine, so they won't put a dual core part in it.
 
You are correct. The new little Macpad is all by itself. The 13" Macbook Pro Retina adds a 5 gen (new processor) a little faster, with better integrated graphics and a slight increase in battery life, it also gets the new non-hinged touchpad (Trackpad) I hope that helped!

Thanks CT! Battery life is a huge increase from my 2008 unibody :)

So it looks like you get to pick your poison if you have budget constraints RAM or hard drive size. I finally found the port specs, they are way down on the main page, not in the individual pages where I was looking. So the SD port is still there, which means I can get a smaller hard drive than I have now and put an SD card in there for work files.

Not being able to upgrade RAM really brings me back to Mac Plus days!
 
Where Apple gets you on the 13" MBP models is storage. An i7 isn't bad for the price, neither is going to 16GB of RAM. However, if you want 512GB or a TB of storage... you will be nearing the 3K mark with AppleCare.

Of course, the lack of a Kensington lock slot is probably one of my biggest peeves, since this can mean the difference between having a laptop when coming back from a restroom break versus having to make an insurance claim. Apple is such an innovative company, maybe they should make their own slot... perhaps use some form of mechanism that goes inside the audio jack and expands, effectively locking it, since even the new MacBook with the USB 3.1 port has an audio jack.
 
I do have a question about the new 13" rMBP, if you guys can enlighten me. If I understood things right, the reason (one of them) for them not updating the 15" model is because there is no i7 Broadwell yet. But when I choose the updated 13" model, I can config it up to an i7 processor.

It reads


Now, when they say "fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core i5 or i7 processor", do they mean:

  • (fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core i5) or (i7 processor)
  • (fifth-generation dual-core Intel Core) (i5 or i7 processor)

In other words: is the i7 configuration Broadwell as well, or only the i5? (Clearly not a processor expert here, haha)
That dual core i7 is Broadwell-U.

What we meant was that Broadwelll-HQ (quad core i7s) aren't available for the 15" yet.
 
I would love to get a MBPr for college in the fall, but it seems a bit odd that they did not add a USB C port or the "new" retina screen that used 30% less battery power. Does anybody think they will update it again before August, or is that ridiculous thinking?


Do I have this right - the 12" is the new slim, light one listed under MB, no fan and very limited ports (one?).

The 13" are the same form factor as before and are listed under the MBP section? I just want to confirm the ports on the 13's

The 12" has one USB C port and a headphone jack. The 13" MBP has all of the same ports that it had before.
 
Thanks CT! Battery life is a huge increase from my 2008 unibody :)

So it looks like you get to pick your poison if you have budget constraints RAM or hard drive size. I finally found the port specs, they are way down on the main page, not in the individual pages where I was looking. So the SD port is still there, which means I can get a smaller hard drive than I have now and put an SD card in there for work files.

Not being able to upgrade RAM really brings me back to Mac Plus days!

I really feel you should go with 16GB of RAM the base processor and 256GB HD if you're on a budget. Unless you collect movies or have insane amounts of music or photos stored on your computer 256 should be ok for most people. Apple is very unreasonable with the amount they charge to move from 256 to 512. I would also caution you not to keep important information on the SD card you want to use. Since it sticks out of the computer it is easy to catch and break it on something. also someone passing by can make your info theirs real quick! I'm going to order it with 16GB as only upgrade in about 3 weeks. I have to have one of our engineers reinstall a work program on the Windows side when we meet up at a trade show in Vegas. Good luck!
 
I really feel you should go with 16GB of RAM the base processor and 256GB HD if you're on a budget. Unless you collect movies or have insane amounts of music or photos stored on your computer 256 should be ok for most people. Apple is very unreasonable with the amount they charge to move from 256 to 512. I would also caution you not to keep important information on the SD card you want to use. Since it sticks out of the computer it is easy to catch and break it on something. also someone passing by can make your info theirs real quick! I'm going to order it with 16GB as only upgrade in about 3 weeks. I have to have one of our engineers reinstall a work program on the Windows side when we meet up at a trade show in Vegas. Good luck!

I think I may wait a bit and see the reports from the field ;) Plus maybe a refurb will show up

Thanks for the tip on the SD card, I had no idea they stick out. I was hoping it was something that could stay in but I guess not.
 
Has the shell changed any?

I usually do my own upgrades and by the time I pick one of these up prices should have fallen further on SSD--but if its going to require a hazmat suit to get into I'll have to save more for the mem/ssd size.
 
I think I may wait a bit and see the reports from the field ;) Plus maybe a refurb will show up

Thanks for the tip on the SD card, I had no idea they stick out. I was hoping it was something that could stay in but I guess not.

This is not entirely true - there are companies that make small SDXC cards cattered to Macbook users, and their cards do not stick out as you're probably picturing.

One example: http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Jet...qid=1426096039&sr=1-1&keywords=128gb+sdxc+jet

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Gee, well done.. That I know!! 8GB is barely enough to run Mavericks

Bull. ****. I run Yosemite completely flawless on my 2011 MBA with 2GB of RAM. It's not much left to run heavy programs, but then again, it's an MBA from 2011(!)

The only hiccup always get is when i'm changing the volume on any of the keys, it takes a good 1,5 seconds before the volume indicator shows on screen. That's it.

Talking out of my own experiences, however I know some of my friends got problems with their MBAs after Mountain Lion. I guess it's all about how you "treat" your computer.
 
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