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All of them, runs pretty cool under normal load, yes of course it will sound like jet engine when you put it on heavy load, but no usage, it isn’t as bad as some people think.

Every single Intel MacBook Pro (not Air nor 12” MacBook Pro) handles 4K video play back just fine, browsing websites just fine, video conference just fine, opening multiple page word docs just fine, opening PowerPoint presentation just fine etc. I don’t know why people think Intel Macs are hot garbage which nothing can be done.
A base M1 8GB Macbook Air is noticeably snappier than an i9 16" MBP 32GB (having owned both), especially with a few tabs in Safari and some applications running.

The fan noise may not bother you, it's quite annoying and noticeable to me.

And the battery drain is noticeable on the intel.

I agree that it doesn't make the intel macbooks hot garbage and unusable, but the gap between an intel and an M1 macbook is very narrow in price. You should spend that extra 50-100 and get the M1 if you're in the market at that price point.
 
A base M1 8GB Macbook Air is noticeably snappier than an i9 16" MBP 32GB (having owned both), especially with a few tabs in Safari and some applications running.

The fan noise may not bother you, it's quite annoying and noticeable to me.

And the battery drain is noticeable on the intel.

I agree that it doesn't make the intel macbooks hot garbage and unusable, but the gap between an intel and an M1 macbook is very narrow in price. You should spend that extra 50-100 and get the M1 if you're in the market at that price point.

I wanna to address some of the comments that people making. Maybe some of you guys are living in the United States which has more used computer resellers, here I am in Canada which doesn't have whole lots of used computer reseller. The price gaps between US and Canada is pretty big, especially if you factor in the shipping cost.
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Sure, if you can get price around$400-$500 range, save some money for an M1 MacBook maybe good, but you would also want to have expectations that M1 Mac won't be support for much longer. These 13" MacBook Pro and Airs, alongside M1 Mac mini are approaching 5 years old now.

If you look the Canadian plus shipping cost, these are approaching $700-$800CAD range. I don't know how many people in this forum do video editing or heavy computing tasks, I would think most of you do. But for average computer users, it just not making sense to spend $700-$800 on a 5 years old computers.

If all you want to do is emailing, video conference, light computing task, any Intel Mac can easily do for much much cheaper price.
 
If all you want to do is emailing, video conference, light computing task, any Intel Mac can easily do for much much cheaper price.

But if you have to replace the Intel Mac in 2-3 years when it can no longer run the software you need, then you really didn't save any money at all. Most of the people on these forums are NOT doing video editing or heavy computing tasks, but they are doing photo editing, media consumption, and other tasks on their machines. When you can buy a new in-box M1 Air for $599 at Walmart today, that kills two of your arguments. The first argument is the price argument, because that M1 Air will blow every Windows laptop in the $500-800 price range out of the water. Second, since they are currently being sold, any claims that the M1 won't be supported much longer are not based in reality.
 
I wanna to address some of the comments that people making. Maybe some of you guys are living in the United States which has more used computer resellers, here I am in Canada which doesn't have whole lots of used computer reseller. The price gaps between US and Canada is pretty big, especially if you factor in the shipping cost.
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Sure, if you can get price around$400-$500 range, save some money for an M1 MacBook maybe good, but you would also want to have expectations that M1 Mac won't be support for much longer. These 13" MacBook Pro and Airs, alongside M1 Mac mini are approaching 5 years old now.

If you look the Canadian plus shipping cost, these are approaching $700-$800CAD range. I don't know how many people in this forum do video editing or heavy computing tasks, I would think most of you do. But for average computer users, it just not making sense to spend $700-$800 on a 5 years old computers.

If all you want to do is emailing, video conference, light computing task, any Intel Mac can easily do for much much cheaper price.
Yeah, but there's loads of other, faster better laptops for the same price as the Intel Mac for light usage. About the only good quality of most of those Intel Macs is screen quality. Everything else is not so good. You can get a used Thinkpad T14 with 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, replaceable parts for less than $300 CAD shipped from a Canadian seller. The keyboard isn't on death's row and is easy to replace. It will do all the same light usage too, even better since it's faster and has more RAM. As far as I can see the only Macs in the same price range are ancient 2012-2015 models or broken ones. So even if you're value conscious it's not a good deal.


Even a NEW Intel N95 laptop is faster than a 2015 13" MBP and is about the same price.

 
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But if you have to replace the Intel Mac in 2-3 years when it can no longer run the software you need, then you really didn't save any money at all. Most of the people on these forums are NOT doing video editing or heavy computing tasks, but they are doing photo editing, media consumption, and other tasks on their machines. When you can buy a new in-box M1 Air for $599 at Walmart today, that kills two of your arguments. The first argument is the price argument, because that M1 Air will blow every Windows laptop in the $500-800 price range out of the water. Second, since they are currently being sold, any claims that the M1 won't be supported much longer are not based in reality.

The M1 deal doesn’t available in Canada or anywhere else. Only in the United States of America.

By your logic again, software support on M1 is also limited by time. Like I said, it is a 5 years old devices and you probably get similar support time frame with Intel Mac that supports Tahoe.

Some poster already said, it doesn’t matter if M1 MacBook Air is still being sold, software support cut off dat is based on when Apple stop selling such devices, third party software doesn’t count.

Apple Watch S3, Mac Pro 2019 is such case, Apple sold Mac Pro 2019 all the way until 2023 and OS support until Tahoe. That is merely 2 years of OS update if you brought a Mac Pro in 2023.
 
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