Guess am the minority here, but would recommend you to keep the Samsung (right), if you get the right calibration the yellowish will get solved and you can avoid potential future IR issues associated to LG technology on their rMBP screens.
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LG Vs Samsung Retina 15" Screen - Picture - What do you guys think?
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There seems to be a lot of variation in the Samsung panels. Mine was measured to have a white point of ~6700K with the default profile, and with hardware calibration it achieved pretty much the full sRGB gamut with D65 white point and 120cd/m^2 luminance. It was already amazingly close to that before the calibration, if the luminance was set manually to around 120cd/m^2. X-rite i1 Display Pro was used for measurement and calibration.
It's just impossible to say anything conclusive of the OPs displays, as there is no reference with a known white point in the picture..
Thats funny, there are more reports here of Samsung screens with IR than LG SA2 screens.... I guess old wive's tales die hard.
If you want to avoid IR, it seems to be best to go with the LG Sa2 model.But just pick the laptop you feel better about.
Thats funny, there are more reports here of Samsung screens with IR than LG SA2 screens.... I guess old wive's tales die hard.
Really? Can you provide links for complaints on Samsung screens?
I used an X-Rite i1 Display Pro colorimeter for measurements and calibration.
The only issue with my panel was a slight backlight bleed in the lower right corner, which also was measured to be ~100K warmer than other parts of the display, but that part happens to be covered by Lightroom/PS toolbars most of the time
Otherwise color and luminance uniformity across the panel were very good. But different panels might not calibrate as well.Check the forum polls for screen IRs, the original has quite a few. You can easily search and find them. There are at least two threads within the last two months.
You need to keep more up to date before stating your opinions as fact, as if that makes any difference on the internet..
Thats funny, there are more reports here of Samsung screens with IR than LG SA2 screens.... I guess old wive's tales die hard.
But just pick the laptop you feel better about.
Tell that to those who got dud V1 LG screens. which one would they choose
I just put mine at 7500ºK and it looks "normal" now. A little bit dimmer, but at least it doesn't look yellow.
I have used all three: Samsung, LG SJA1 and SJA2. Here are my findings:
The LG screens have a bit deeper black and higher color saturation, but are not as bright overall. They are around 10 cd/m2 dimmer.
The Samsung is noticeably sharper.
Viewing angle differences are negligible. All three panels had very good backlight uniformity and no bleed.
Once calibrated to D65/120 cd/m2 with an actual colorimeter, not the built in "calibration" tool in display preferences, the three displays are all very close in white point and color reproduction.
With all of that taken into account, I would want a Samsung display for its superior sharpness and absence of IR problems. The LG SJA1 is far too prone to IR, and we don't have enough solid data or time since their release to confidently say the SJA2 doesn't have IR.
The LG screens have a bit deeper black and higher color saturation, but are not as bright overall. They are around 10 cd/m2 dimmer.
The Samsung is noticeably sharper.
Viewing angle differences are negligible. All three panels had very good backlight uniformity and no bleed.
Once calibrated to D65/120 cd/m2 with an actual colorimeter, not the built in "calibration" tool in display preferences, the three displays are all very close in white point and color reproduction.
With all of that taken into account, I would want a Samsung display for its superior sharpness and absence of IR problems. The LG SJA1 is far too prone to IR, and we don't have enough solid data or time since their release to confidently say the SJA2 doesn't have IR.
Excellent data, thanks. Do you mind sharing your Samsung calibrated values? I'm using a custom profile someone posted here a while ago and looks pretty good ( less yellowish than the factory setting ) but would like to compare it to yours.
Hi, would understand the point that IR might not be uncommon, but how is that not a negative aspect?
I've attached my calibrated profile. You're free to use it to compare, but please don't expect it to be accurate on your machine. The only way to calibrate a display is to use an actual colorimeter. Each display requires a different calibration to achieve accuracy.
I'm guessing I'm very much in the minority in this thread but I have a 15" rMBP from 2012. I don't notice any image retention. Thankfully. And I'm not going to look for it.
There's no way I am going to even try to find out who manufactured my panel. It's information that would just make me obsess so I just don't even want to know.
There's no way I am going to even try to find out who manufactured my panel. It's information that would just make me obsess so I just don't even want to know.
Good for you, you're not the minority, you're actually the majority. Most owners are out their simply enjoying their machines, and not posting on Internet forums.
I don't blame you, but how much longer do you have a warranty on your rMBP? If you have Apple Care would not worry, but if your 1 year is about to expire would be wise to check since if you have the LG and get the IR eventually out of warranty, that will not be covered by Apple and will be an expensive repair (Just my 2 cents
)I don't blame you, but how much longer do you have a warranty on your rMBP? If you have Apple Care would not worry, but if your 1 year is about to expire would be wise to check since if you have the LG and get the IR eventually out of warranty, that will not be covered by Apple and will be an expensive repair (Just my 2 cents
thats actually good advice since the dude has the first gen retina
I don't blame you, but how much longer do you have a warranty on your rMBP? If you have Apple Care would not worry, but if your 1 year is about to expire would be wise to check since if you have the LG and get the IR eventually out of warranty, that will not be covered by Apple and will be an expensive repair (Just my 2 cents
Thanks for the advice. Actually I purchased this rMBP in June 2012 and it's the first Mac I've ever bought AppleCare for. I figured since there was almost nothing that I could upgrade, that it was essentially a solid state computer, that AppleCare was necessary. That and it being a first generation computer
Luckily I've had no image retention issues - and I've looked. It's the best MacBook I've ever owned.
Just by looking at the colors and ignoring everything else, I'd go for the LG. But, considering ghosting, I couldn't stay with one (my rMBP actually had an LG screen that developed ghosting pretty quickly). Now I have a Sammy screen calibrated so it looks like exactly the screen on the left. Pretty happy with it.
Thanks for the advice. Actually I purchased this rMBP in June 2012 and it's the first Mac I've ever bought AppleCare for. I figured since there was almost nothing that I could upgrade, that it was essentially a solid state computer, that AppleCare was necessary. That and it being a first generation computer
Good choice! You're covered, so dont worry