I disagree - A large segment of users having readability issues is a usability issue.
Also - Steve Jobs would tell you to get out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLZM-ejtAlg
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Lighter typeface or heavier typeface in iOS 7?
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I disagree - A large segment of users having readability issues is a usability issue.
Also - Steve Jobs would tell you to get out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLZM-ejtAlg
I agree, just like the new transparency toggle, or replace the bold txt toggle with a light and regular toggle. toggle toggle.
I do like better the light (beta 1 and 2)
At this point, being a beta, I don't know if Apple will remove the light one, give us the option for the light one or they are just trying the bolder look, but I would really love it for the GM to have the lighter one, I guess will now in a few weeks.
At this point, being a beta, I don't know if Apple will remove the light one, give us the option for the light one or they are just trying the bolder look, but I would really love it for the GM to have the lighter one, I guess will now in a few weeks.
The original font looked much sleeker. Now it just looks like generic Helvetica that you see everywhere (yes I know they're both Helvetica).
But it's still the same Helvetica Neue font, just slightly thicker, that's all. So not the generic Helvetica since it's still Helvetica Neue.
I like the ultra light font better. But for sure the new thicker font in Beta 3 doesn't really play well with the new fonts Apple adopted for other scripts like Thai (which is still very thin; matching the Ultra light more)
Looks over usability is poor business move, even if 30% of your users are having issues using the device you need to solve the issue by changing or offering a choice. But in this case I think they made the right move, in fact, if you had never seen the first ultra thin font, you would be very happy with the current bolder one.
It's still very thin compared to ios6. looks great, and most likely here to stay.
My vision up close is great, just at arms length...thin text, especially black on white tends to be hard to read, and has a odd blurring effect, and not easy on my eyes, black on a darker shade is OK. Also holding the phone very close was fine with the old font, but I often glance at my phone at a distance for a quick look at info, ios6 is still better for that, especially in the weather app, but I turned on bold and it's not bad.
So it could be the combination of so much white and the thin fonts that bother some people.
It's still very thin compared to ios6. looks great, and most likely here to stay.
My vision up close is great, just at arms length...thin text, especially black on white tends to be hard to read, and has a odd blurring effect, and not easy on my eyes, black on a darker shade is OK. Also holding the phone very close was fine with the old font, but I often glance at my phone at a distance for a quick look at info, ios6 is still better for that, especially in the weather app, but I turned on bold and it's not bad.
So it could be the combination of so much white and the thin fonts that bother some people.
imo I think its a good move in making the font a little thicker. It will be easier to see and it doesnt look bad at all.
And usability without look is also poor. Of course people wouldn't complain as much if we hadn't already seen the previous thinner font. However, we have seen it and we know we have a choice. I don't understand why a choice wouldn't be a better solution. I also don't understand why people just didn't use the "bold" option under accessibility, using that with the light font = the heavy font.
I think some people did and it still was difficult for them to read (or the bolding didn't apply everywhere). Maybe in beta 4 there will be an option to pick whether you want a heavy or light font.
Really? Well I know that the larger size font didn't apply everywhere, but I tried the bold option on beta 3 and it applied everywhere including the lock screen, so maybe they changed that? I'm not sure, but on the other thread where there is a poll, a majority of people said that they preferred the lighter font, although there were still many people that like the new font. Regardless, I think a choice is the better solution because on one hand, yes it's a problem if older people or people with vision problems have a hard time reading things, but there are also many people who just simply prefer the lighter font (including me even though I have terrible eyesight).
I hope a few options are implemented. While I prefer the beta 1/2, the very font Apple presented and showcase on their website - the choice would make everyone happy.
I believe the default should be the light original one. Then during first use setup folks would be shown the differences in fonts, amongst other things, by the OS setup - and choose.
I believe the default should be the light original one. Then during first use setup folks would be shown the differences in fonts, amongst other things, by the OS setup - and choose.
I know that. All I'm saying is the light version looks more fresh whereas the version currently used looks generic.
A little strange how a simple minor increase in thickness and nothing else would make it seem so different.
I'm sure it made a world of difference to those who previously couldn't read the screen clearly. So yes, such a minor change does make a difference.
It definitely can in that respect--my comment was in regards to the whole font suddenly looking completely different somehow as far as how "cool" it is.
It doesn't matter, how "cool" - if it kills usability, it is not acceptable. It is meant to become an interface, not a piece of art.