Just looking for some input. I've read a lot of the threads on LR vs. Aperture and also have downloaded trials for both. I've been using iPhoto 08 regularly for about 3 mos. I came from PC side, and am not a photo pro. Just have a lot of family photos. I had Photoshop for PC, but never used it (I don't do pixel manipulation aside from red eye and some blemish removal). I found Picasa to be what I needed, but it's not available for Mac. I'd like to avoid the $299 apps, but will spend it if needed. Here's my conclusions to date, at least for what I need: iPhoto08: Good: easy drag and drop to get images to desktop, great integration w/.mac (which I use). Easily publish to web. Certain other Apple apps can see into iPhoto libraries. Bad: red eye and image editing tools are inferior. Upping exposure causes edging around brightness. Red eye never looks right. Events concept is clunky (I'm assuming they'll develop this concept further next release), keyword support is still a little under par, no stacks support (I do a lot of burst mode shooting of the kids, and I'd like to group these photos in stacks) Show-stopper: image adjustment tools are sub-optimal, no stacks support Aperture: Good: Apple-integrated w/other Apple apps (I think!), supports stacks Bad: price, I have trouble w/the interface, don't see the integration with .mac or other web pub sources. Red eye and exposure and other adjustments seem to use the same engine as iPhoto, and produce results I don't like. Overall, though, I think I can't figure out Ap, because I can't figure out the interface Show-stopper: interface (big one for me), same issue as iPhoto image adjustment tools Lightroom: Good: Love the interface, stacks, great image adjustment tools, great image gallery tools, good key word support. Bad: price, can't drag and drop images from library (every time I do, they come out without any of the adjustments. It seems to me I have to "export" them to get the adjustments out.), no integration with .mac galleries (though I could give this up, if needed). Not sure if other apps can see into the LR library (I want LR to import my photos, so I need other apps to be able to see them, such as iMovie or iDVD) Show-stopper: difficult to get image with adjustments out of LR for a casual user, little integration with other apps on the Mac (I don't use anything else from Adobe), would have to move to web-page publishing from .mac galleries The only other tools I know that do library management with basic image adjustment are Picasa (not on Mac) and Expressions Media (which I'm getting w/Office 08 soon). So, I'm just trolling for opinions on: Am I missing any other options? Or, am I fundamentally misunderstanding how to use one of the above applications. Thanks for any practical input/thoughts from anyone who has used these applications regularly.