Lightroom - what a joke

sejanus

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Runs slow both with library on internal 3tb fusion drive or an ssd connected externally.

have followed up every speed trick on the web I can find

Lightroom is the only slow program on this computer. When scrolling through images it often beachballs for a few seconds at a time. It's just beyond frustrating when trying to edit a large wedding.

Photo mechanic, aperture, heck even photoshop runs very fast and with no delays and certainly no beachballs.

What gives - is this just the way things are? I can't even go back to Aperture now as we know there are no updates coming and I need to stay competitive image editing wise.

Ripping my hair out....
 

maflynn

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Did you try rendering the 1:1 previews, so it doesn't have to do this each time you view the picture?
 

MCAsan

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Yep. Still rubbish.

The conclusion is obvious. If you don't like it, don't use it.

I have zero problems on my rMBP with a library of 105,000 images. LR has always been faster to load, execute, and exit than Aperture. But I really miss the Aperture UI.
 

snberk103

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i7 3.5ghz imac
32gb ram
Runs slow both with library on internal 3tb fusion drive or an ssd connected externally.

have followed up every speed trick on the web I can find....
I'm thinking it's something specific to your installation. Running slow is not a common complaint for LR. I have sympathy for your plight, but at least there is probably a solution. My suggestion is to take your issue to a LR specific forum and let them help. They'll know what questions to ask. Good Luck.
 

sejanus

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Different strokes for different folks. LR is not to your liking.
I do like the program - the editing and file output is great. It's the laggy culling process that stinks.

I'm trying to use photo mechanic now to replace that part.
 

maflynn

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I do like the program - the editing and file output is great. It's the laggy culling process that stinks..
Once I rendered my previews, the performance picked right up. I see no lagging in using LR.

I've been looking at other products with the soon to be demise of Aperture, so far LR is the best option for me.

I'm trying to use photo mechanic now to replace that part.
I've been reading up on photo mechanic and how it is very quick with importing, which is done because its using the internal previews instead of reading the RAW data of the image itself.

I think using PM to cull your photo, only adds steps and decreases your efficiency if you're planning on using LR after the culling process.
 

MCAsan

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How do you do a round trip to/from a plugin such as Topaz, Nik, Perfecto Photo or other?

From what I am seeing the marketplace, only Aperture and Lr let you round trip to a plugin and back...and manage the file from the plugin as part of the library/catalog.
 

flynz4

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How do you do a round trip to/from a plugin such as Topaz, Nik, Perfecto Photo or other?

From what I am seeing the marketplace, only Aperture and Lr let you round trip to a plugin and back...and manage the file from the plugin as part of the library/catalog.
NIK plug-ins actually will work as a stand alone application. So, from any DAM, you should be able to export a photo, manipulate it via NIK, and then import it back in. In essence, that is what occurs with LR or Aperture since neither support non-destructive 3rd party editing. It is just that both LR and Aperture automate the process.

/Jim
 

MCAsan

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It is just that both LR and Aperture automate the process.
For me that is the key point. A DAM will have to have exceptional raw processing abilities for me to ignore the lack of other features such as:a plugin round trip, good slideshow maker with linked in music, GPS map coordinates, and book creation. Both Aperture and LR have these features. So I would not accept less from other vendors.

It will interesting to see if the new Photos has those features.
 

maflynn

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In essence, that is what occurs with LR or Aperture since neither support non-destructive 3rd party editing. It is just that both LR and Aperture automate the process.
Its more of an automated process and I think the integration buys you a little ease of use and maintaing the library. I've seen people complaining about how they have to use NIK with C1 over at dpreview - not a lot but it was mentioned, Exporting out of LR/AP, firing up Dfine,
Cleaning up the image,
Saving it,
Reimporting

Its a hassle compared too:
Right click image and select edit in NIK Dfine,
Cleaning up the image
Saving/exiting.

One image or two the manual round trip is probably ok, but start working on a lot of images that need to get pumped through a plug-in and that will get old.
 

flynz4

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Its more of an automated process and I think the integration buys you a little ease of use and maintaing the library. I've seen people complaining about how they have to use NIK with C1 over at dpreview - not a lot but it was mentioned, Exporting out of LR/AP, firing up Dfine,
Cleaning up the image,
Saving it,
Reimporting

Its a hassle compared too:
Right click image and select edit in NIK Dfine,
Cleaning up the image
Saving/exiting.

One image or two the manual round trip is probably ok, but start working on a lot of images that need to get pumped through a plug-in and that will get old.
I agree that it is a pain if the DAM does not support round trip editing. I was just trying to point out that it is not impossible to use at least NIK with a DAM that does not support round trip actions.

Personally... I would want this feature as part of any DAM that I used. NIK is an important set of tools for me.

/Jim
 

dazed

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Runs smooth on my 2011 21.5" iMac with library on the stock internal 1TB hard drive. Maybe an install issue?
 

maflynn

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Runs smooth on my 2011 21.5" iMac with library on the stock internal 1TB hard drive. Maybe an install issue?
On my rMBP there is a lag if I don't build the previews, Aperture is much faster moving from image to image. Once I build out the previews I can move to image to image without waiting for LR to generate the preview from the RAW image data.
 
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