limewire on a mac?

[5683565]

I personally hate Limewire because it uses soooo much RAM. Menu Meters will display this.

On the Piracy Note, Just remember... If you steal two albums from an artist, that's one less oil change that he can get on his Ferrari! With that in mind, how could you pirate music...

 

[Koodauw]

an actual useful post in this thread...

Limewire has come out with a Universal Binary version, so it runs natively on the Intel Macs. I run it on my MPB, and it runs just fine. I think it runs better than on my G4, but thats just me. I like limewire, I think its fine.

Acquisition is another good one to try, however it will nag you to death if you don't pay for it, thus I stick with Limewire.

basically just DL both of these programs, try them out, and you can decide on your own.

 

[jcoffman78]

Ripping CDs

The RIAA's lastest stance on "ripping":

"As part of the on-going DMCA rule-making proceedings, the RIAA and other copyright industry associations submitted a filing that included this gem as part of their argument that space-shifting and format-shifting do not count as noninfringing uses, even when you are talking about making copies of your own CDs:

"Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted, necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright owners in the MGM v. Grokster case is simply a statement about authorization, not about fair use."

Meaning that Ripping CD's and backing them up do NOT come under fair use, again meaning that ripping CD's to your iPOD or your Home Computer is aganist the DMCA and thus illegal. If there was any doubt before about the RIAA's intelligence, it is now confirmed...they are ****ing retarded. Screw them and screw Metallica!!

 

[annk]

This isn't about being a do-gooder-this is about having morals and knowing right from wrong. Right:buying your music. Wrong:stealing your music. And even though I don't make a ton of money while celebrities, athletes and mucisians make ungodly amounts of money I'm not going to be silly enough to use that as an excuse for stealing. Scenario: I can't afford a MacBook Pro. So I go to the Apple store in the middle of the night, break in, and steal a MacBook Pro. What a relief to know that when I get caught I could just whine about how poor I am, how rich others are, and how I'm entitled to free stuff for those reasons.
The fact that you haven't not given one plausable reason for STEALING shows how very wrong you are.

To the OP...Limewire sucks, and honestly I known people say "It can be used for legit file sharing" but 99% of the people who say that are using it to steal what isn't rightfully theirs-that is just their justification. Just buy your music.

Go Jadekitty, well said! 200% support from me

 

[bousozoku]

I personally hate Limewire because it uses soooo much RAM. Menu Meters will display this.

On the Piracy Note, Just remember... If you steal two albums from an artist, that's one less oil change that he can get on his Ferrari! With that in mind, how could you pirate music...

One musician friend drives a 1999 Mercury Cougar, and stealing from him takes a much bigger chunk than for the musical superstar. They both get less than they should from CD sales. Someone else gets the bulk of the money. If the group gets 10 %, that would be a big deal but they still have to split it 4-5 ways generally.

The RIAA's lastest stance on "ripping":

"As part of the on-going DMCA rule-making proceedings, the RIAA and other copyright industry associations submitted a filing that included this gem as part of their argument that space-shifting and format-shifting do not count as noninfringing uses, even when you are talking about making copies of your own CDs:

"Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted, necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright owners in the MGM v. Grokster case is simply a statement about authorization, not about fair use."

Meaning that Ripping CD's and backing them up do NOT come under fair use, again meaning that ripping CD's to your iPOD or your Home Computer is aganist the DMCA and thus illegal. If there was any doubt before about the RIAA's intelligence, it is now confirmed...they are ****ing retarded. Screw them and screw Metallica!!

As far as rationalising piracy by citing actions of the RIAA and other such groups goes, it doesn't help to validate what they're saying about people.

If everyone is buying and they're claiming otherwise, their grip will most likely be loosened because of the facts.

 

[Seasought]

will limewire hurt my computer? does it hav spyware, adware, viruses or watever else is bad that these file sharing applications hav? and if not limewire, wat should i install...?

I have used Limewire on both PCs and Macs without any problems. You'll be fine using Limewire if you decide to go that route.

 

[brepublican]

As a musician, may I ask how people who play music are to make a living off of their art if you think buying it is bad? Sure, the record companies screw with that artist-listener relationship, but musicians still have to put food on the table, and their not all rich like Bono.

Blasphemy! Enough is enough! I dont mind all the name calling and the abetting of illegal activities (yes, all who are championing Limewire, thats what you are doing) but mentioning Bono's name (in vain) is taking it a step too far. Stop hating on Bono

Will someone send this thread to wasteland?

 

[Compile 'em all]

im going to order my macbook pro soon....and im still deciding on whether im gonna install limewire or not...im definitely not buying music from itunes so dont even suggest that...but will limewire hurt my computer? does it hav spyware, adware, viruses or watever else is bad that these file sharing applications hav? and if not limewire, wat should i install...?

Limewire is an open source program so it doesn't have any kind of
malware. You can even download the source code for the Pro version and
compile it on your own. It works like a charm on my machine with no
problems whatsoever.

 

[Maxiseller]

This isn't about being a do-gooder-this is about having morals and knowing right from wrong. Right:buying your music. Wrong:stealing your music. And even though I don't make a ton of money while celebrities, athletes and mucisians make ungodly amounts of money I'm not going to be silly enough to use that as an excuse for stealing. Scenario: I can't afford a MacBook Pro. So I go to the Apple store in the middle of the night, break in, and steal a MacBook Pro. What a relief to know that when I get caught I could just whine about how poor I am, how rich others are, and how I'm entitled to free stuff for those reasons.
The fact that you haven't not given one plausable reason for STEALING shows how very wrong you are.

To the OP...Limewire sucks, and honestly I known people say "It can be used for legit file sharing" but 99% of the people who say that are using it to steal what isn't rightfully theirs-that is just their justification. Just buy your music.

I wouldn't dream of stealing anything tangible that can be held in the hand...the thing is you're talking about air frequency being a tangible object (as there is no longer a physical CD with a software download) and that stealing now requires only the listening to those air vibrations.

Look, I'm a musician and a music teacher - I also compose for Media, and so I know the nightmare that musicians go through (and they really do) - and mostly it's not even the artists that are making the millions from the tracks, it's the greedy record companies. Artists get around %5 royalty...if a track cost only 5p here in England, there wouldn't be a problem...the fact is, the other 95% goes to execs...

I don't know, I don't quantify it as stealing, and there are a lot of people that feel the same way...the deal is that unless the record industry changes, people like myself who do download the odd song could potentially be the ruin of the industry. I don't believe in making criminals out of the majority of the population who download music, or go 33 miles an hour in a 30 limit...

A change is required; please no more moaning - it's not a crime.

 

[annk]

I don't know, I don't quantify it as stealing, and there are a lot of people that feel the same way...the deal is that unless the record industry changes, people like myself who do download the odd song could potentially be the ruin of the industry. I don't believe in making criminals out of the majority of the population who download music, or go 33 miles an hour in a 30 limit...

A change is required; please no more moaning - it's not a crime.

I was a musician until 1999, and still receive a tiny amount of money based on how many of the recordings I'm on sell. I'm appalled to hear this sort of attitude from a musician.

Your personal definition of theft is irrelevant. What you're talking about most certainly IS stealing, and stealing IS a crime. You don't have to like the way the industry works, but to insist this isn't theft is absurd.

 

[maestro55]

What if I buy mp3s for 500 bucks and then my hard disk crashes, or my laptop gets stolen, then all the music and the money is gone.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe that it is legal that when music is purchased from the Itunes music store that one also can have one back-up copy of that song. I am not 100% sure on this, but it is what I have heard. Really though, this is a valid point if they don't allow back-up copies. Even only allowing one back-up copy isn't really fair because what if your one back-up copy and your harddrive are damaged in a fire?

My stance on pirating music is irrelevant, I do agree that the largest of the record companies make too much money, and perhaps the artists do too. However that is there work of art and they are entitled to charge what ever they please for it.

I have Limewire on my computer and it seems like an okay computer. I have it on a Linux box and a Windows machine and have not had to worry about any Malware or anything. I guess I have had good success, but Acquisition looks like a nifty app and has good ratings. Do what you please, but be careful.

 

[Compile 'em all]

What you're talking about most certainly IS stealing, and stealing IS a crime.

Just to put things right into prespective, downloading music illegally is
copyright infringment and is not a crime. There is a large difference between
both.

 

[weg]

Chundles is right. We don't like piracy around here.

Hmm.. why don't you accuse Photoshop users of piracy? After all, Photoshop (combinded with a scanner) can be used to make copies of CD leaflets. Thieves!

Btw., here's a nice film that can be downloaded legally using Bittorrent:

http://www.starwreck.com

You see, there are downloads that are totally legal, and even for those you have to pay (at least in Europe), because there's a fee on DVD-Rs and CD-Rs, which you have to pay anyway (no matter if you use your DVD-Rs to store your private data or other things).

Please stop accusing everybody who asks a question about filesharing tools to be a criminal...

EDIT: The amazing thing about the fee is that the music industry's justify it by claiming that people copy copyright-protected material. Isn't it amazing that you have to pay them for something that they actually prohibit? What would you say if you had to pay Bill Gates a fee for every computer you buy because "in the end, everybody is running Windows on their PCs, anyway" (having a Mac is no excuse - Windows will soon run on Macintosh, too).

 

[LaFouinard]

I use Limewire, it's annoying slow sometimes but has lots of files which is really useful. I've found it most useful for TV but music wise it's useful for getting hold of really rare stuff.

If I like a band I (almost) always buy the music (mostly on CD, hard copy and the artist gets marginally more money) but there's plenty of deleted CD's which you can only occasionally buy 2nd hand for an extorttionate amount. If I want a RHCP B-Side from 1995 that they're not going to see a penny from anyomre I see no problem getting it from Limewire. I also used to use Napster (back in 2000/2001 when it was free) to listen to albums before I bought them. I won't do that now because of the RIAA but that only hurts band's record sales as I bought loads of stuff I wouldn't have otherwise.

I think Limewire's great but I think it's worth keeping in mind that if band's alubms don't sell they get dropped by the label, split and produce no more albums. At least by albums by smaller bands because they do need the money for food rather than a larger house

 

[maestro55]

Not to mention that music over 70 years old and the artist and creators are dead and no one currently owns the copyright then the music can be downloaded and shared for free. So there is really rare stuff I suppose that some people have and no one owns and P2P apps are good for sharing this kind of stuff.

Also open source software and groups that provide free music on the web. Some people are not all about money. So saying that P2P apps are just for bad is a false statement.

 

[Maxiseller]

I'm obviously not going to win my point -

I'm not a criminal, and I know this; the world making me one because I download a song that I hear on the radio and like isn't "criminalising" the right way...

Send me to prison for downloading a song, and yet let rapists out early/give them a caution? The world has gone crazy...GET SOME PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE!!!

If I really, really admire, or follow a band, of course I will go out and buy their album...if I'm just looking for a new track to listen in the car (otherwise Id be listening to the radio) I'm not fussed about occassionally downloading.

Tell me, if i recorded the radio, would I be a criminal then? Comments?

 

[bousozoku]

We're not getting anywhere with this any longer, so I hope that everyone is feeling better to clear out those thoughts.