Carrier Limited Unlimited Plans!?!

[BigSky20]

At what point does the FTC stop this limited unlimited crap. You should not be able to call something unlimited and have data limits.

Of the list below, only the Verizon “gounlimited” is something I would call unlimited even though they cap the streaming to 480p. All of the others have data limits, which to me means NOT unlimited! A bunch of marketing crap.

 

[eyoungren]

Uhm it's unlimited.

Deprioritization, which is what that "Data limit" column is, is not a limit, nor a cap, nor throttling. It's simply that your data is sent to the back of the line when a tower is congested or busy.

No congestion, no busyness, no deprioritzation.

Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point.

 

[barkomatic]

Wait until Sprint and T-mobile merge and the prices on your chart increase 30% and data allowances get cut in half.

 

[estabya]

I have 6 lines on an ATT Unlimited Plus plan (last year's unlimited plan) and we regularly use 75GB+ a month, with 2-3 devices regularly going over the 22GB 'limit'.

Like eyoungren said, your data isn't shut off when they hit those numbers, your traffic is de-prioritized, which generally means absolutely nothing, or at least nothing noticable. I have never seen speed decreases after going over 22GB.

 

[eyoungren]

I have 6 lines on an ATT Unlimited Plus plan (last year's unlimited plan) and we regularly use 75GB+ a month, with 2-3 devices regularly going over the 22GB 'limit'.

Like eyoungren said, your data isn't shut off when they hit those numbers, your traffic is de-prioritized, which generally means absolutely nothing, or at least nothing noticable. I have never seen speed decreases after going over 22GB.

Exactly. There has been people I've seen reporting terabytes worth of usage on their UD plans on all four carriers. So, to say there is a limit is just not true.

 

[Closingracer]

I’m using about 100gb this month and hasn’t been slowed down. This is on sprint.

On Verizon basically on the go unlimited plan I was using around 80gb and never slowed down. It’s unlimited data because you’re not getting charged going over

 

[Newtons Apple]

I think when 5G gets fully up and running we might see a truly unlimited. But then again they may not as someone would take advantage. If it keeps data moving quickly by limiting people, I am all for it!

 

[John webstar44]

lol, Same here with Giffgaff unlimited renamed to Always On After 9GB of data used you'll experience a reduced data speed of 384kbps from 8am to Midnight.

Only two unlimited provider's in the uk is three uk and Virgin mobile both have no issues using 200gb - 300gb each month.

 

[aakshey]

In India Unlimited Plans are the definition of hell.

LTE Unlimited plans:

Post a certain amount of data, your speed reduces to 40 to 80 Kbps. Yes. Small b. Not big b.

Broadband Unlimited plans:

Post a certain amount of data, your speed reduces to 256 Kbps to 1 Mbps tops.

The good news is:

My broadband costs USD 30 per month and I get 3300+ GB at full speed of 40/100 Mbps (based on the location) and the throttling is only beyond 3300+ GB.

For LTE USD 15-25 per month can easily get you 100+ GB LTE each month.

 

[John webstar44]

I’m using about 100gb this month and hasn’t been slowed down. This is on sprint.

On Verizon basically on the go unlimited plan I was using around 80gb and never slowed down. It’s unlimited data because you’re not getting charged going over

My heaviest has been 320gb watching netflix nonstop and youtube over 4g my wifi is switched off.
each month i'm using around 100gb.

 

[Brandonjr36]

I would be more for the fcc to step in and not let carriers like AT&T keep raising the rates. Just like them raising the administration fee last week. And how it’s now $30 per line vs $20 and directv now went up $5 more a month. Donald trump was right they shouldn’t of let them merge with timeWarner.

 

[borgranta]

People that tend to use their data overnight would likely see no impact at all since most people use their data during waking hours.
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At what point does the FTC stop this limited unlimited crap. You should not be able to call something unlimited and have data limits.

Of the list below, only the Verizon “gounlimited” is something I would call unlimited even though they cap the streaming to 480p. All of the others have data limits, which to me means NOT unlimited! A bunch of marketing crap.
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The reason that the FCC has not gotten involved is because they are being upfront with the quasi-soft cap. I call it a quasi-soft cap because they do not slow everyone down all the time and instead selectively slow down those that are passed the data limit. The data limit reflects guaranteed unmolested speed until you hit the limit. The Verizon gounlimited plan can be subjected to being slowed down anytime due to network congestion unlike the more expensive plans that guarantee unmolested top speed until 22GB or 75GB as been used.

 

[Dodgeman]

Uhm it's unlimited.

Deprioritization, which is what that "Data limit" column is, is not a limit, nor a cap, nor throttling. It's simply that your data is sent to the back of the line when a tower is congested or busy.

No congestion, no busyness, no deprioritzation.

Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point.

Exactly what he said here. You get unlimited data either way, just a fact in whether it Is usable or not, lol.
Either way the 22 plus gigs should be a fast speed and in fact if you do get throttled you still have unlimited data just not at the proposed quicker speed.


& BTW I am still upset I did not jump on that SPrint 15 dollar month deal.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Unlimited data doesn't mean unlimited bandwidth. A lot of people on here seem to they are the same.

 

[BigSky20]

Uhm it's unlimited.

Deprioritization, which is what that "Data limit" column is, is not a limit, nor a cap, nor throttling. It's simply that your data is sent to the back of the line when a tower is congested or busy.

No congestion, no busyness, no deprioritzation.

Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point.[/QUOTE]

Uhm...not unlimited.

 

[jamezr]

Uhm it's unlimited.

Deprioritization, which is what that "Data limit" column is, is not a limit, nor a cap, nor throttling. It's simply that your data is sent to the back of the line when a tower is congested or busy.

No congestion, no busyness, no deprioritzation.

Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point.

I wish more people understood what it all means. I just switched to a Verizon unlimited plan...after 22GB...i may see some slowness depending on network congestion....but then I may not.....it really depends on the towers in your area.

 

[NoBoMac]

Gak! This is like a bad Seinfeld/Carlin bit. "They say unlimited, but not. Weird, man".

Can always take it up with the FTC. Or get an ambulance chaser law firm to take it as a class action suit: can get $5 for the suffering that this caused.

And per the definition of "unlimited" posted, hanging "unlimited" meaning no slow-down on the word "extent" is not going to work. Per Merriam-Webster:

• the range, distance, or space that is covered or affected by something or included in something
  
  
• the point or limit to which something extends or reaches

So, fancy term for volume, mass, quantity, acreage. Not relative quality.

 

[democracyrules]

Wait until Sprint and T-mobile merge and the prices on your chart increase 30% and data allowances get cut in half.

Definitely T-Mobile price increase would happen when Sprint is absorbed in and they think their network is in par with Verizon and AT&T. All merger promises of job creation and lower rate might happen only in short term. We will see current T-Mobile customers are screaming and complaining for price hikes in the future.

 

[eyoungren]

I wish more people understood what it all means. I just switched to a Verizon unlimited plan...after 22GB...i may see some slowness depending on network congestion....but then I may not.....it really depends on the towers in your area.

Exactly! Deprioritization ≠ throttling, no matter what some people want to believe.
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Uhm it's unlimited.

Deprioritization, which is what that "Data limit" column is, is not a limit, nor a cap, nor throttling. It's simply that your data is sent to the back of the line when a tower is congested or busy.

No congestion, no busyness, no deprioritzation.

Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point.

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Uhm...not unlimited.

You quote my post…but you seem to skip over the last part.

Here it is again…"Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point."

I know the definition of unlimited. The fault is on the carriers for not making it clear in the beginning what they meant by that.

But whether you want to accept that your data is unlimited, but the carrier can control the rate at which you get it, or not - it's what it is.

We can spin here on this discussion but it's not going to change anything at all. We aren't even arguing over terminology. I agree with you by strict definition. But I've accepted the fact about what the carriers actually meant and moved on.

You seem to be stuck and want to cling to the strict definition in order to hammer your carrier into your idea of compliance.

 

[BigSky20]

Exactly! Deprioritization ≠ throttling, no matter what some people want to believe.
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You quote my post…but you seem to skip over the last part.

Here it is again…"Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point."

I know the definition of unlimited. The fault is on the carriers for not making it clear in the beginning what they meant by that.

But whether you want to accept that your data is unlimited, but the carrier can control the rate at which you get it, or not - it's what it is.

We can spin here on this discussion but it's not going to change anything at all. We aren't even arguing over terminology. I agree with you by strict definition. But I've accepted the fact about what the carriers actually meant and moved on.

You seem to be stuck and want to cling to the strict definition in order to hammer your carrier into your idea of compliance.

Unlimited is defined. If the plans do not meet the definition of unlimited, then they shouldn’t be advertised as such. It is false advertising plain and simple.

The fact that Verizon has three different unlimited plans is hilarious.

 

[estabya]

Unlimited is defined. If the plans do not meet the definition of unlimited, then they shouldn’t be advertised as such. It is false advertising plain and simple.

The fact that Verizon has three different unlimited plans is hilarious.

It is not false advertising. You can use an unlimited amount of data on all the plans.

Just because you don’t like the caveats that the plans include does not mean that the data itself is not unlimited.

 

[eyoungren]

Unlimited is defined. If the plans do not meet the definition of unlimited, then they shouldn’t be advertised as such. It is false advertising plain and simple.

The fact that Verizon has three different unlimited plans is hilarious.

So go sue. See how far you get.

 

[borgranta]

Unlimited is defined. If the plans do not meet the definition of unlimited, then they shouldn’t be advertised as such. It is false advertising plain and simple.

The fact that Verizon has three different unlimited plans is hilarious.

You have a point. I recommend filing complaints with the FTC and FCC and with any luck the carriers will be forced to remove any and all restrictions from their unlimited plans.

 

[aristobrat]

Unlimited is defined. If the plans do not meet the definition of unlimited, then they shouldn’t be advertised as such. It is false advertising plain and simple.

Even if the plans didn’t deprioritize based on network conditions, your ability to consume data is still limit by things like signal strength, tower backhaul capacity, etc.

So to follow your logic through, there can never be an unlimited plan. There will always be a limiting factor. Always.

 

[Grimham]

Uhm it's unlimited.

Deprioritization, which is what that "Data limit" column is, is not a limit, nor a cap, nor throttling. It's simply that your data is sent to the back of the line when a tower is congested or busy.

No congestion, no busyness, no deprioritzation.

Carriers should have been clear from the beginning that they meant "all you can eat" data however and not "no restrictions at all". Because they do determine how you can get that data. If you want to say it's BS because of that then okay - but it's an old dead horse at this point.

Sadly, Verizon deprioritizes you no matter what tower you are on and no matter how busy the area is. They have already been caught doing it in rural areas for no reason. So theirs is limited.