Lion..ipad on a computer: good or bad?

[ErikGrim]

I've been beta testing the OS since Mac OS 8 was called Copland and something entirely different to what was actually released. I have used every Mac OS release since the MultiFinder was released. I remember when AtEase was a bonafide Finder replacement, and how it got morphed in to the Simple Finder option later on.

Apple has always cared about professional users. If they didn't they wouldn't have developers creating their applications. They wouldn't have editors creating Oscar winning movies. They wouldn't have Grammy winning musicians. They wouldn't completely own the print and web design industry. Or at least you'd see a deluge of users escape over the last two decades or so were people like you have whined about Apple not caring.

So accept the fact that Apple is constantly improving the OS for everyone - be them the millions of new users coming to Apple from their impeccable work in creating something that everyone can use

 

[Soliber]

I read through the entire "little new things in Lion" thread about a month ago. From what I read there, it seems Apple has put a great deal of work and a lot of nice things in Lion.
So I don't really understand where this "Lion has almost no new features" or "Lion will be crap" sentiment is coming from.

 

[3282868]

Apple has always cared about professional users. If they didn't they wouldn't have developers creating their applications. They wouldn't have editors creating Oscar winning movies. They wouldn't have Grammy winning musicians. They wouldn't completely own the print and web design industry.

How does this enforce your claim? Old Awards and artists who have used their products is no basis for their current direction. Give some actual facts. Would a company who cares about professionals drop Xserve, R.I., dedicated professional hardware, focus on consumer level products such as iDevices and iOS with little OS X development? You listed anecdotes and personally attacked me over something as silly as Apple products when there are far more important issues to be angry about (let's start with the nuclear meltdown in Japan and work our way from there).

Or at least you'd see a deluge of users escape over the last two decades or so were people like you have whined about Apple not caring.

Yet that is exactly what is happening with the prosumer market. For the record, we are not whining, merely making statements as we make our living off Apple products. I also work in OS X/UNIX/Windows environments, all have their pro's and con's. I will admit that since Apple transitioned from PowerPC to Intel chips, it's great having a Mac Pro (or any Intel Mac) that can run a myriad of OS's.

 

[SinisterPower]

Lion

I didn't download any of the Lion developer previews but it seems like we don't have to have the apps on the screen like an iPad and I agree with the first post, ''We do buy computers to look like a computer, Not an iPad.''

 

[VPrime]

Here is one thing I said before in a similar topic about apple ignoring the pro market.
One part of the pro market is software developers... Right?

Well, these software developers create software generally for the consumer market.. These developers help push apples iOS devices, the apps tore, and the mac app store.
With out these developers there would be no apps to bring people to these devices, and for apple to make money on (both with the sales of devices, and the 30% cut from the appstores).

It would not make sense to create a platform where a software developer can not have certain freedoms they need (which are sometimes pretty similar to other content creators).
If apple creates a platform which makes it impossible to develop apps with, then the developers will leave. simple as that.
Right now, the only way to develop applications for apple products is by using an apple product.

So my question is, do you think apple with shoot them self in the foot like that?
You say apple is focusing on consumers, and leaving the pro users.. But it is the "pro" users that create an environment for the average user.

Yes, apple is making the OS easier to use. But this doesn't mean they are making the operating system function worse. Things will be different, take some getting used to. But they won't remove certain freedoms that are required.

As Steve Balmer once said.......
DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!

 

[Bernard SG]

Sure, but I'd hate to do my work on it. Final Cut Pro editing in HD? It's a computer for consuming, not necessarily producing (iWork app's are good for minor work, I wouldn't use my iPad as a computer but as an extension of my main system).

The people who use applications like Final Cut or Logic Studio, Adobe CS et all, while most respectable, represent a very tiny minority of the universe of computer users.
I definitely do consume AND produce on the iPad.
Anyhow, the debate, we're having is moot IMO. It's not like Apple is going to drop the current way we use Macs.

 

[mysterytramp]

If Apple utilized even a small amount of their cash reserve to re-focus on us, they could easily make a good amount of money and take much of the business market further from Windows/MS.

I haven't seen Lion firsthand; I'll wait until the official release. But I can tell you that the business market is going to eat up Versions like a spoon. That's the killer app in this upgrade. Maybe not to the people on this board ... but you take your average manager with an office full of people with varying computer skills. Something like Versions -- assuming it's implemented well -- can erase a lot of office heartache.

And THAT is why Apple has focused more than a little of its cash reserve on YOU.

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