Lion is eating my time machine

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  1. Shivetya macrumors 65816

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    I am down to 162gb of backup space available, this is down from nearly 600gb before I installed Lion. Each time I catch it it states its backing up 14g but I am not changing anything!
     
  2. basher macrumors 6502

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    Did you try and reset PRAM or SMC reset? Also, you could try forcing a deep traversal by doing a hard reset or by booting off a SL O/S disk.

    Once the traversal completes you should have normal backups in TM again.

    Best of luck!
     
  3. robgendreau macrumors 68030

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    Time Machine apparently disagrees with you.

    Have you checked to see if you have the same exclusions from the Time Machine backup as before?

    It's also possible that in upgrading you have created a big file that updates frequently, hence it's backed up over and over. You need to see what's going on; check the backupd log in Console; that might tell you.

    Rob
     
  4. Shivetya thread starter macrumors 65816

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    8/21/11 5:57:51.856 PM com.apple.backupd: 19.32 GB required (including padding), 108.59 GB available


    no details... any idea how to find details?


    this is the most I could find
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    Aug 21 15:57:51 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: 19.29 GB required (including padding), 136.83 GB available
    Aug 21 16:06:35 xs-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: Copied 1470 files (13.7 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    Aug 21 16:06:35 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: 2.82 GB required (including padding), 123.10 GB available
    Aug 21 16:06:37 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: Copied 303 files (2 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    Aug 21 16:06:39 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: Starting post-backup thinning
    Aug 21 16:06:48 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: Deleted /Volumes/Untitled/Backups.backupdb/x iMac/2011-08-20-152046 (17.9 MB)
    Aug 21 16:06:48 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed
    Aug 21 16:06:48 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1595]: Backup completed successfully.
    Aug 21 16:57:33 xs-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Starting standard backup
    Aug 21 16:57:41 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Backing up to: /Volumes/Untitled/Backups.backupdb
    Aug 21 16:57:56 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: 20.27 GB required (including padding), 123.12 GB available
    Aug 21 17:07:38 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Copied 1177 files (14.5 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    Aug 21 17:07:39 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: 2.82 GB required (including padding), 108.58 GB available
    Aug 21 17:07:42 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Copied 652 files (34 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    Aug 21 17:07:43 x-iMac mds[48]: (Error) Volume: Could not find requested backup type:2 for volume
    Aug 21 17:07:44 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Starting post-backup thinning
    Aug 21 17:07:53 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Deleted /Volumes/Untitled/Backups.backupdb/x iMac/2011-08-20-162047 (9.8 MB)
    Aug 21 17:07:53 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed
    Aug 21 17:07:53 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1628]: Backup completed successfully.
    Aug 21 17:57:33 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1701]: Starting standard backup
    Aug 21 17:57:34 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1701]: Backing up to: /Volumes/Untitled/Backups.backupdb
    Aug 21 17:57:51 x-iMac com.apple.backupd[1701]: 19.32 GB required (including padding), 108.59 GB available

    I would love to find these 1472 and 600+ file backups. I have nearly a dozen excludes. I am not sure exactly what files it is getting.



    I have a new app called time tracker which I will fiddle with and see what it can show.
     
  5. seanf macrumors 6502

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    Could it be a Virtual Machine Image that is getting backed up each time? Are you running Fusion or Parallels on this machine?

    Sean :)
     
  6. justathought macrumors newbie

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    Lion introduces a new 'mobile backup' feature. This basically keeps (hidden) backups on your notebook when you're not connected to your Time Machine drive and transfers them back once the drive is re-connected.
    This feature can be deactivated with the following command in Terminal:

    sudo tmutil disablelocal

    Just wait a few seconds, it should completely remove the (hidden and access protected) mobile backup and release the missing hard drive space.

    Found this hint in another forum, and it worked for me. :)

    Hope this helps!
     
  7. Shivetya thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Just an update.

    Apparently Lion decided on my machine that it could ignore some of my "excludes". I used Time Tracker (or whatever) to see the directories. Many of the directories is was backing up are hidden from view (holding OPT while in Finder makes more options available - specifically the ability to go to Library).

    Its behaving now, after writing down the excludes, removing them, adding them back, then going back in and deleting bad backups (like my iTunes which is continuously backed up)
     
  8. basher macrumors 6502

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    Glad to hear you got it figured out. Amazing how removing and then re-adding the exclusions fixed things.
     
  9. autofree macrumors newbie

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    so how did you fix your time machine backup? i am having the same problem. my 1TB drive is almost full from a few backups of about 200GB of data. i never ran into this problem on SL. Lion backs up more data for some reason.
     
  10. Shivetya thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Go to http://www.charlessoft.com/ and get his time tracker app, it will show you exactly what Time Machine is backing up. For me it was a large portion of my iTunes library, my WOW directory (which was excluded but still backing up), my Firefox cache (again excluded but backing up). Once I found the big offenders I just deleted all the excludes and put them back in.

    Then I went and found the items that were backed up improperly and removed all versions from time machine.
     

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