Lion or Snow Leopard?

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by jusacruiser, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. jusacruiser macrumors 6502


    Mar 15, 2009
    Palm Beach, Florida
    I did a search and could not find a thread with this topic. Please forgive me if it turns out to be a duplicate post.

    I can't decide whether to upgrade to Lion or not.

    My question is this.....Are most people liking Lion? Or are they sticking with Snow Leopard?

    Or maybe there are some people who have switched to Lion and wished they could go back to Snow Leopard.

    Please weigh in and give me your evaluation of Lion vs. Snow Leopard.

  2. chaosbunny macrumors 68000


    Mar 11, 2005
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    Snow Leopard, for now. Wait for 10.7.3 or something and upgrade with ease, once first version bugs and problems with 3rd party software are patched. Same rule for all OS updates.
  3. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    Opinions are pretty strong on both sides right now. I ran a poll today that showed about 75% of responders liked Lion (consistent with other polls here), but you'll also see a lot of threads from people with complaints.

    My advice is that if Snow Leopard is working fine for you now, hold off at least until 10.7.1 comes out and/or iCloud is available (if you intend to use iCloud). Lion has a lot of good features, but the first release has a lot of bugs, probably more so than any first OS X release since perhaps OS X 10.0 itself.

    Also, if you have any old PowerPC applications, unless they have Intel equivalents, you probably should stick with Snow Leopard since they won't run in Lion.
  4. tigres macrumors 68040


    Aug 31, 2007
    Land of the Free-Waiting for Term Limits
  5. Nixir macrumors member

    Jul 15, 2011
  6. vix2000 macrumors regular

    Nov 27, 2010
    I'm struggling with lions unreliability. If you rely on wifi stick with snow leopard.
  7. Estra macrumors newbie

    Aug 4, 2011
    Are you having trouble with a macbook regarding wifi issues? Do you have an idea if there are similar issues with the iMac/ it's as worse?
  8. Steve's Barber macrumors 6502a

    Jul 5, 2011
    You're kidding, right? :D

    That's like asking what someone's favorite color is. :confused:

    The Lion vs. Snow Leopard debate will only be resolved when Apple stops supporting one of 'em. :)
  9. WSR macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2011
    From what I've read in these forums, since I'm still using Snow Leopard, this is what I've so far concluded.

    Don't update to Lion if:
    #1 You use Spaces and Expose extensively. You'll find Mission Control to be a downgrade.
    #2 You have a 2nd monitor and often you use it to do other things in 1 monitor while having an app in full-screen mode in the other. Lion's full-screen mode makes multiple monitors useless.
    #3 You frequently use the "Save As..." option. Lion doesn't have it.

    I'm planning on waiting for Apple to fix these bugs before I update. That is assuming I don't hear about others.
  10. xkmxkmxlmx macrumors 6502a


    Apr 28, 2011
    Yes and no. While many are excited to upgrade the second it is released, and many do not experience the bugs, at this point in time, just like with ANY OS upgrade, it is safer to stay with the previous version. At least until the .1 or .2 update.

    Of course Lion is usable, and has some nice features, so if you really want to try them, go for it.

    Also, if you've never tried SL, then just go Lion. You won't know what you're missing ;)
  11. vix2000 macrumors regular

    Nov 27, 2010
    I am using an 11" macbook air. Now the link station is recognised the wifi issue is the main problem. It appears it is widespread looking at the hits if you search for it. My battery life, like others, has reduced but I can live with that. I do like using Lion but the wifi problem is more than a little inconvenience to be honest.
  12. geeker17 macrumors newbie

    Aug 4, 2011
    OSX Lion

    Do not upgrade to Lion. It could be one of Apple biggest failures to date. It's performance is pathetic at best. What a mistake.
  13. RWil85 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 2, 2010
    I don't know how people can say this..are you running recommended hardware/+ some? It's running flawlessly on the MBP in my sig..

    It'd be one thing to say it's not for you - it's another to just say it doesn't perform well.
  14. bill-p macrumors 68000

    Jul 23, 2011
    Snow Leopard definitely.

    I can list out what Lion did wrong all day. At 80WPM non-stop.
  15. dmccloud macrumors 6502a


    Sep 7, 2009
    Anchorage, AK
    The only WiFi network I have issues with using Lion is at home, and I have a spare ethernet cable connected to the router that I just plug in to get online. Trying to mix fullscreen mode with multiple monitors is a bit of a pain, but to me it's not a deal breaker as far as using Lion is concerned. As far as performance goes, I haven't seen any drops in performance after moving to Lion. In fact, some of my newer apps seem to run a bit faster (removing Rosetta might play a role in the faster apps).

    That being said, this is still a zero-point release, so there are still some improvements to be made both from Apple's end and the third-party developers' side of things. Most of the software I'm using is Intel-only (only 2-3 apps are universal binaries), so the lack of Rosetta has not affected me at all. But ultimately whether to stick with Snow Leopard or make the move to Lion is a matter of personal preference.
  16. jusacruiser, Aug 4, 2011
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    jusacruiser thread starter macrumors 6502


    Mar 15, 2009
    Palm Beach, Florida
    Oh no! :eek: Is Lion the "New Coke"?? Maybe they should revert back to Snow Leopard and call it "Snow Leopard Classic!"

    Well, now that Mroogle has gotten the boot, it is much harder to find stuff.

    But I do like your sense of humor! I am giving you a thumbs up.

  17. saving107 macrumors 603


    Oct 14, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    I've had zero issues since I upgraded from Snow Leopard (regular upgrade, no clean install) and I like Lion, for me it has been a lot more stable than Snow Leopard 10.6.0 was.

    Late 2007 iMac (Aluminum)
    Late 2008 MacBook Pro (Aluminum)
  18. mark28 macrumors 68000

    Jan 29, 2010
    How can people like a Beta OS is beyond me :confused:

    The features are nice, but you can't depend on Lion being your OS yet.

    So if you like the updated GUI and don't care how good the OS runs, go use Lion I guess like a lot of people here.
  19. tblrsa macrumors regular

    Jan 14, 2010
    Here is my experience with Lion so far:

    - Encryption of my Time Machine Drive as well as the system drive went smooth with FileVault 2. Lion preserved my old Time Machine Backup Data while encrypting the drive, very nice.

    - No Kernel Panics as of yet

    - External Monitor working fine, although I sometimes have to replug the DVI Cable several times for it to recognize the monitor.

    - Safari 5.1 is eating a whole lot of more memory as the version used on Snow Leopard, still using it though. Hope Apple provides a fix.

    - Enjoying the new Mail, no issues with iCal and MobileMe. Syncing calendar events without problems.

    - No issues with Wifi, although I understand some people do have issues.

    - Sometimes I´m getting a weird graphic glitch (yellow or red boxed over the screen) in the browser. Happened with both Safari and Google Chrome.

    - Experienced bad Battery Life on Lion -> Can be fixed by resetting SMC and recalibrating battery

    Running Lion on the system you find in my signature. Only ran an update from Snow Leopard, no fresh install.
  20. Boo The Hamster macrumors member

    Boo The Hamster

    Jul 26, 2011
    London, UK
    Went from Snow Leopard to Lion on the day of release.
    I lasted four days before reverting back to SL.

    To be fair, I didn't encounter any of the (many) reported bugs in Lion - it worked just fine. However, the way that it worked was the issue for me.
    You can find many, many other threads detailing people's disappointments and irritations with Lion, but in no particular order, some of mine were:

    Colour scheme : Aqua has become a dull grey, which looks boring, and makes active / non-functioning tabs difficult to discriminate between. Not the end of the world, but a step back in my view.

    Autosave / versioning : A real love it / hate it facility. Depends whether you want control over your software, or whether you want to relinquish it to the machine. Me, I hate it. Plus there are question marks over the performance impact of backups running in the background on large files, and how much disk space is being used for these backups.

    Spaces vs Mission control : I wasn't a heavy spaces user, but if you are, check out the many threads regarding this issue. It appears to be a backward step.

    Too many gimmicks : Launchpad, the screen animations, making the traffic lights so small as to be impractical to use, the iCal appearance. None of them dealbreakers, but they all ratchet up the annoyance factor a few clicks.

    It's unlikely that iCloud will work with SL (maybe someone else can confirm or deny - I'm not 100% sure), but given that I like control over where my data is, I wouldn't use it, so that's no great loss to me. It might, however, be important to you.

    I made sure I had an up-to-date bootable backup of SL (courtesy of SuperDuper!), and it's probably the most useful backup I've ever taken! I might take another look at Lion in a few versions time, but for me, the biggest impact it's had is to stop me buying the Macbook Pro that I've been speccing out for the last few weeks. I'll make my SL-running Macbook last as long as possible.

    But definitely have a play with Lion before you upgrade, just to get a feel for it. You might love it, or it might save you a couple of hours restoring your old system...
  21. stefan1975 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 15, 2010
    lion is as slow as a turtle on my 2010 mbp 15" 2.4 i5 with 8gb crucial and an intel 320 SSD. I kinda think that qualifies as >recommended hardware.

    SL is soooooooo much faster then lion it's pathetic. Lion eats RAM like it were antilopes too. SL ran better with the stock 4gb RAM then lion does on the new 8gb.

    Also wifi reception is mediocre at best and there seems to be a major problem with webkit browsers. Safari and Chrome cause my mbp to freeze at least once a day. I can still move the mouse but am unable to start or close any programs at that point, forcing me to hard reset my mbp. this seems to be a common problem.

    so @OP hands down SL every day of the week and twice on sunday. the only new stuff in lion are new graphical trinkets you won't be missing out on anyway, SL runs the same kernel and thus the same software lion does, only faster and more stable.

    just my 2c. Stefan
  22. jusacruiser thread starter macrumors 6502


    Mar 15, 2009
    Palm Beach, Florida
    So are you saying that you like Snow Leopard better? :rolleyes:
  23. kirky29 macrumors 65816


    Jun 17, 2009
    Lincolnshire, England
    For me it's Lion.

    Lion runs a lot faster than Snow Leopard on both my current 2011 MBP & my old 2009 MBP.

  24. jusacruiser thread starter macrumors 6502


    Mar 15, 2009
    Palm Beach, Florida
    Lion's Better??

    Lion's better?? Going against the grain baby!!
  25. jbyun04 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 31, 2008
    I'd have to say Lion...though I'm getting annoyed at how much Chrome, Firefox, PS, DW and ID are crashing.

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