Location blue bar at top, always on! Horrible!

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  1. wylhkg macrumors newbie

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    I am using move app for daily walk check! After upgrade to iOS 11, the location bar always on at top menu, can anyone help to turn it off!
     

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  2. Jimmyjamh macrumors member

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    Same issue with me too. I cant figure out how to disable either. Sadly I need to use the app because its linked to my life insurance policy which allows me to get an apple watch cheap!
     
  3. MC6800 macrumors 6502

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    Does the app not show up in Settings > Privacy > Location Services, where you should be able to change it to "While Using"?
     
  4. Goldfrapp, Jun 6, 2017
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    Goldfrapp macrumors 601

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    Which part of 'developer beta' do you not understand??

    Clearly it's a bug. I've disabled location for affected apps until it's fixed.
     
  5. zorinlynx macrumors 601

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    On iOS 10 this happens with Google Maps if you set location privacy to "While Using". If you set it to "Always" the blue bar goes away.

    The point of the blue bar is to let you know an app is using your location anyway even though you set it to only use location while using the app.
     
  6. Mi1lion macrumors member

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    You need to wait until the Developer releases an update for iOS 11 (which is near Fall).

    You can probably report it to Apple so it can be added to their list of 'known bugs' for 3rd Party Apps.
     
  7. Jimmyjamh macrumors member

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    Interestingly I turned off location services on the app and turned it back on again. The blue bar has gone.
     
  8. freak4pc macrumors newbie

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    Hey guys,
    Sorry to disappoint but this is most probably not a bug.

    Apple announced in WWDC they will be always presenting the top blue bar when an app is tracking your location in the background so you, as a user, would be able to have full understanding of which apps are using your location at a given time.

    Locations are split into two options developers can ask from the user:
    1. When the app is in use - in this case the app always used to show the blue bar in the background
    2. Always - allows the app to always get location updates. in iOS 10 and below, this didn't result in a blue top bar but from iOS 11 and above the blue bar behavior is identical across both.

    P.S. I do believe this is something that could potentially be fixed by Moves when they switch to some of the new APIs that specifically target movement and health instead of getting the user's physical location (which is not actual information that app needs)
     
  9. larousse96 macrumors newbie

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    I have the same issue, it is so anoying I just installed iOS 11 and I want to desactivate localisation because it is just horrible but I can't because some apps need localisation enabled to work... Thank you very much Apple for that... --'
     
  10. Jimmyjamh macrumors member

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    What’s more frustrating is if you accidentally knock the blue bar when trying to hit the navigate back button on some apps you get taken to app using your location. Very frustrating
     
  11. jhfenton macrumors 6502a

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    It seemed clear to me that it was not a bug, and I like it. If an app is tracking my location in the background, I want it glaringly obvious. It's not something that should happen often.
     
  12. freak4pc macrumors newbie

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    Yes and no. If you have an app like Facebook or Moves you can expect it would be constantly tracking your background location (unless declared otherwise). A full blue navigation bar seems like an aggressive choice of UI to reflect that. They did change the "location arrow" signings on the status bar which is actually very useful.
     
  13. jhfenton macrumors 6502a

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    Perhaps they need something in between. I don't use Moves, and I don't use the Facebook app. (I use a saved Facebook web link.) I don't like to use apps that track location constantly in the background.

    I checked, and I have only five apps authorized for "Always" location services: Weather, Yahoo Weather, Pokémon GO, Run An Empire (real-world exercise app/game), and Waze. And of those, only Waze and Run An Empire trigger the constant blue bar. The weather apps and Pokémon peak at location occasionally. Waze and Run An Empire track constant position (as is appropriate for those apps). I prefer the interface to scream at me when that is happening, because the behavior should be limited to a few apps.
     
  14. jschu22 macrumors regular

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    A couple of weeks ago I posted about how silly it is to complain about people complaining about the beta.

    I COMPLETELY retract my earlier statement.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 27, 2017 ---
    I couldn’t agree more. This constant monitoring of location isn’t a desired behavior- its a sacrifice.
     
  15. DiscoMcDisco, Jun 27, 2017
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    This. I’m happy it exists, I’m less happy about the UI choice.

    Perhaps just have a spinner around the location arrow to denote something is actively using your location (FB, for example, seems to be checking once every hour, sweatcoin is constant).

    Adding it as a control centre widget also makes sense, with 3D Touch/long press to show a list of active apps...

    There are better UI choices, the information is too useful not to have... there needs to be a balance.

    Submitted this permalink as feedback.
     
  16. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Its the complete opposite for me on iOS 10. If its set to 'always', I get the blue bar, and if its set to 'only while using', I don't get the blue bar.
     
  17. H3LL5P4WN macrumors 6502a

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    I don't see what was so hard about noticing the GPS arrow in the task bar and then going to setting to track down the cuplrit.
     
  18. jhfenton macrumors 6502a

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    There's always an arrow in the task bar. You have to look closely at the state to see the difference between hollow and solid. The arrows only give general indications of geofencing or recent use. They don't tell you whether an app is currently tracking your current location on a continuous basis. That's what the blue bar is for. (And if you're over 45 you may have trouble seeing the difference in the arrows at arm's length.)

    And only a few narrow categories of apps should yield a blue bar: mapping apps, exercise apps, etc. Weather apps and other location-based apps only need to check periodically or on-demand. If they're doing more than that in the background, I want to know.
     
  19. cmaier macrumors G3

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    Apps for smart locks (e.g. kevo, august) are apparently keeping the blue bar on at all times. you need those apps in the background so the phone knows when you get home or leave the house and automatically unlocks or locks the door. Very annoying to have the blue bar there at all times.
     
  20. H3LL5P4WN macrumors 6502a

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    Rarely do I have a GPS arrow that I didn't cause (like opening a GPS-based app). In fact, the only constant icons I have are Alarm and Bluetooth.

    From my usage experience, if you (specifically you, jhfenton) constantly have an arrow in your task bar, then you have something constantly checking your GPS.
     
  21. FreakinSyco macrumors regular

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    This is my problem. I have a smart home security system (Abode) that arms and disarms based on my location. Constant blue bar.

    I know it’s tracking me. I want it to.
     
  22. cmaier macrumors G3

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    Exactly.
     
  23. macbookguy macrumors regular

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    I'm lucky in that I don't have enough smart stuff that the blue bar needs to always be on. Been pretty easy for me so far ... app causes blue bar, app is switched to "while using."
     
  24. jhfenton macrumors 6502a

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    Most of the time, it's a hollow arrow, meaning that a location aware app is using geofencing. Several apps and system services on my phone and Apple Watch use geofencing, so at least a hollow arrow is always there. Maybe the difference between a hollow arrow and a solid arrow is blindingly obvious to you, but it's not something that jumps out at me.

    The apps are "doing it wrong," and the blue bar is a give-away. Complain to the developers, not to Apple.
     
  25. EJ8 macrumors 6502a

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    What? No. Most people have at least one app tracking their location at all times. That means a blue bar permanently on just about every iPhone in existence? Come on man that is just stupid.
     

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