Log in time out length?

Discussion in 'Site and Forum Feedback' started by Riverside, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. Riverside macrumors member

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    What is the length of time set for time out of log in on Macrumors?

    Whatever it is, it seems to me to be way too short.

    Several times now, I've typed up posts and replies only to find when I submit them, I've been logged out in the background, and consequently the post is lost.

    Some forum sites allow you to hit the back button, and your edit page is still there filled, so you can just copy it, log in, and repost.

    Macrumors doesn't work that way.

    Can't we have one of two options? Either more time to post, or the ability to back up and retrieve?

    It's a pain in the neck to have to remember to copy the post before trying to submit it, 'just in case'. And I can't remember to do that every time.
     
  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    When you log in, check "Remember Me" and you'll stay logged in for days.
     

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  3. Riverside thread starter macrumors member

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    Okay, I probably should have mentioned that I know that option is there, but I prefer not to use it for security reasons.

    Time outs serve a good purpose, and should be there for people to take advantage of, (I administer some forums of my own, so I understand why they are used). I like the fact that I can count on the time out to automatically log me out because I participate on dozens of forums with Firefox, sometimes with many tabs open, and don't always have the time to keep checking what I'm logged into, and what I'm not logged into.

    Most of the forums I'm on give a lot more time to post than Macrumors does.

    Some of them give an option to set your own time out length.

    The short length here is just a pain in my opinion, and clicking "remember me" isn't really an option I prefer to use.

    Don't mean to be a pain in the neck, but it really is much shorter than nearly every other forum I participate in.
     
  4. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    You got your solution. Whether you choose to use it or not is up to you. There are no "security reasons" not to use the "Remember Me" option. It's not like you're logging in to your bank account!
     
  5. Riverside thread starter macrumors member

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    No offense intended gg, but I DO have reasons for not remaining logged in to anything on the Web too long. I'm not going to bore you or anyone else here with the details.

    Please don't presume to understand my particular situation. Clicking "remember me" is NOT the best solution for everyone, nor is it the only solution.

    As I said, I administer my own forums, and participate on MANY others. Yes, there ARE good reasons for time outs, both for the users, AND for purposes of forum control and security.

    Hundreds of other forums are able to maintain security against spam and hacking with much longer timeouts.

    "Remember me" is not the only solution. Longer time out lengths is another.

    This is a feedback forum. I'm simply giving my feedback.
     
  6. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor

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    The inactivity log-in time-out period is 15 minutes, which is the vBulletin default setting and which should be enough time to compose your posts. If you feel like you need more time, just click the "Preview Post" button once in a while. That also has the benefit of giving you the opportunity to make sure your post is appearing as you wish it to...generally a good idea if the post is lengthy enough that it takes more than 15 minutes to compose.

    That said, we do always appreciate feedback. :)
     
  7. kabunaru Guest

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    Raise the new limit to 30 minutes, there might be a few people that can use it. ;)
     
  8. Riverside thread starter macrumors member

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    30 minutes would be nice, but 15 should be enough, I agree if one is never disturbed while composing a post. It does seem to time out more quickly than that sometimes though, which could be time conflicts between my clock and the server, though I doubt it.

    Hitting preview now and again would help. I hadn't thought of that, so thanks for that hint.

    Still, given that glitches between the amount of time given, and the actual amount of time that users get in reality do happen (it's a simple reality we all need to live with), it would be nicer if the time out were extended to a somewhat longer period.

    It's not an unusual thing to be distracted by an IM, a phone call. or someone knocking at the door for what at least seems like a couple of short minutes, to return and finish the post, then discover you haven't been logged in for some time.

    Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that this is pretty much the only forum this comprehensive and truly dedicated to Macs, this would be reason enough for me to post elsewhere. But since I haven't yet found a forum as fitting to the types of things I need help with now and again, I'll deal with it for now.

    I would like to see the time limit extended some anyway. It doesn't seem as though there would be any more of a security issue with a 30 minute limit as there is with providing unlimited log ins via the "remember me" check box.

    Robots can find those and check them off just as easily as a human can.

    Still, thanks for taking it into consideration.

    And thanks for your donated time!
     
  9. Riverside thread starter macrumors member

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    Okay, just to add a little credence to my complaint, I just got timed out again while writing that last post.

    There's no way on earth that took me over 15 minutes to type. I'm a slow typer, but I'm nowhere near that slow.
     
  10. kabunaru Guest

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    It took me over 15 minutes to type one post once. ;)
     
  11. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    15 minutes goes by a lot faster then you think. You start looking around and posting. You're logged out before you know it!

    There are rare instances where I do opt not to have my login remembered on a public computer.
     
  12. kabunaru Guest

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    So, are you for a higher log-in time or not?
     
  13. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    It's up to how the staff wants to handle the security situation when it comes to auto-logout. Personally I'd like a few more minutes.

    From my own professional security standpoint 15 minutes is a long time.
     
  14. kabunaru Guest

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    To me, it is very short. Time flies by very fast for me.
     
  15. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Have you ever dealt with higher education policies or HIPAA?
     
  16. kabunaru Guest

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    What is that? I am afraid I do not know what you are talking about. :D
     
  17. KítscheñÇinqµe macrumors regular

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    i noticed MR autologged out when I was doing almost anything. eg: when clicking a "reply" link, MR went to a relogon/post-transition page (iow, before compose, so of course before 15 min compose timeout would have begun).
    if "multitasking", 15 minutes may not be long. and sometimes the author wants to verify memory of details or to give a well-rounded reply, therefore needs more time to google for external snippets.
    btw, OP should not be losing his/her "drafts". Your browser should be caching whatever "draft" you've accumulated in the compose (html form) boxes.
     
  18. Riverside thread starter macrumors member

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    Ah, that's a very good point, and I'm a little sheepish I hadn't thought of it by now.

    I've been able to solve this problem for myself by NOT using the computer I do Web design on, which is the one I'm using right now, so I better type fast.

    When I'm doing Web design, I absolutely HAVE to turn off my cache, otherwise I don't see updated pages I need to see to verify they are working properly.

    I've solved the problem of short time-outs by simply using my laptop (which DOES have the cache turned on) most of the time now.

    And you are correct. All I have to do in that case, is back up, copy it, log in again, and paste.

    I would still like to see a longer time frame used though.
     

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