Logic & New Mac Pro...

[Composer87]

i'm not a logic user, but you definitely don't want your samples on your boot drive.
i'm sure you can choose to put them on a different drive, though someone else would have to tell you how if you're not sure.....

edit: and oh yea, like bass108 said, audio file typically refers to what your recording and samples refers to virtual instrument stuff.

yeh, i've had clicks/pops issues in the past by locating the samples on the boot drive, so thought it would be sensible having them on another internal hd.

 

[big dainjerus]

Using separate drives for Os, Audio and Samples just let's the drives do what they are doing. As well for backups of the OS is easier and backups for clients for their Audio files are separate and lastly the Samples are usually huge files, like Ivory I think has 6-7 Dvd's to load all the stuff. You could easily fill you're OS drive full of samples in no time and some of those samples stream off the harddrive, so the reading is being hit hard but the writing isn't so bad, but stops a lot of glitches on it's own.
Lastly if any of those drives die, you have only one task to do. Not try and recover everything. I took the Mac pro for this over and iMac etc. as I wanted to simplify all that stuff. Some samples as of now don't let you load them on another drive as well.
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Brian

Would it be ok to keep other media files on the HD with the audio files? Such as video and photos? Or should it ONLY be used for the audio files? Also, does anyone know of a way to get your LOGIC samples onto another HD? Is it even possible?

 

[rockinrocker]

Would it be ok to keep other media files on the HD with the audio files? Such as video and photos? Or should it ONLY be used for the audio files? Also, does anyone know of a way to get your LOGIC samples onto another HD? Is it even possible?

yeah, it's fine to put whatever you want on there, just don't try and access it while you're tracking.

the main thing is that any of your drives that you're putting/getting time sensitive information on or off of are only doing one thing at a time.

so like for example, you can put your iphoto library on your audio drive if you want, (though i wouldn't necessarily suggest it) just don't go hunting around for it while you're in the middle of a session.

i'm actually probably going to use a 4th for my iTunes and just leave photos on my boot drive as there's plenty of room there and i'm not really that concerned with snappy performance in iphoto.

 

[big dainjerus]

Thanks for the reply.

If I was planning on using Logic, photoshop, final cut, aperture, itunes, and iphoto (lots of pics), how would you suggest setting up my HDs? Obviously there would be a lot of music, photos, and video files. I am concerned with performance and speed (what else could I put on the HD with the samples? nothing else, just an HD dedicated for that) as I've been slugging around on a powerbook g4 for a few years now and would like to flyyyy with the new mac pro. I would also like to back them up obviously (time capsule?) Also, how important is it to have a fast boot/app drive?

 

[nano]

yeah, it's fine to put whatever you want on there, just don't try and access it while you're tracking.

the main thing is that any of your drives that you're putting/getting time sensitive information on or off of are only doing one thing at a time.

so like for example, you can put your iphoto library on your audio drive if you want, (though i wouldn't necessarily suggest it) just don't go hunting around for it while you're in the middle of a session.

i'm actually probably going to use a 4th for my iTunes and just leave photos on my boot drive as there's plenty of room there and i'm not really that concerned with snappy performance in iphoto.

So:

Boot drive=DAW
2nd drive=audio files
3rd drive=samples
4th drive=itunes


Which of these (not #4 obviously) benefit from being fast drives, and how great is the improvment?

 

[fernmeister]

Would it be ok to keep other media files on the HD with the audio files? Such as video and photos? Or should it ONLY be used for the audio files? Also, does anyone know of a way to get your LOGIC samples onto another HD? Is it even possible?

In theory you will get the best performance from the drive by keeping as little on it as possible so the audio is always on the fastest part of the drive. In practice I don't lose sleep over it.

To move your samples onto another HD you need to copy the sample files, but not the .exs instrument files! When you open up EXS24 in Logic, it will take ages to find the samples, then after that it will work fine.

 

[Composer87]

To move your samples onto another HD you need to copy the sample files, but not the .exs instrument files! When you open up EXS24 in Logic, it will take ages to find the samples, then after that it will work fine.

Redmatica make a great relinking tool for EXS samples so that you don't have to hang around forever when loading them up...

http://www.redmatica.com/Redmatica/ExsManager.html I use it for my VSL orchestral samples and it works great.

 

[rockinrocker]

you guys could probably get more input posting at a music site like gearslutz or something where there're lots of people that have used that particular app.

or there might be something in the manuel if you have that handy.

 

[goldenlotus]

Here is how I have mine setup:

Boot Drive: DAW PTLE
HD2: Session files
HD3: Backup Archive

As long as you keep your session files off the main boot drive you're okay. I really have no problems with drive access speed. The main thing for me is ram ( I've only got 2 gigs) which I hardly ever run up against anyway. Can't offer any info on Logic but I use PTLE and Reason and it runs great.

I also reccommend you check out Gearslutz.com, they've got a whole Music Computers section with tons of Logic users.

 

[big dainjerus]

Here is how I have mine setup:

Boot Drive: DAW PTLE
HD2: Session files
HD3: Backup Archive

As long as you keep your session files off the main boot drive you're okay. I really have no problems with drive access speed. The main thing for me is ram ( I've only got 2 gigs) which I hardly ever run up against anyway. Can't offer any info on Logic but I use PTLE and Reason and it runs great.

I also reccommend you check out Gearslutz.com, they've got a whole Music Computers section with tons of Logic users.

Cool, where would you suggest I then keep my photo/video media?

 

[fernmeister]

Redmatica make a great relinking tool for EXS samples so that you don't have to hang around forever when loading them up...

http://www.redmatica.com/Redmatica/ExsManager.html I use it for my VSL orchestral samples and it works great.

Thanks - I've heard of that app, but not tried it out - yet!

As far as HDs. Barefeats ran a test on HD speed that concluded the high speed Raptors may not always be the fastest option (and might be annoying noisy). There's a lot of conflicting opinions on them, versus newer fast 7200rpm drives.

When my new MacPro arrives in a few weeks I'll be setting it up like this.

1 - Apps, iTunes, iPhoto, etc.
2 - Audio.
3 - Samples and photoshop files.
4 - Backup.

At this stage, the only place I would consider a Raptor there is 2.

 

[Bass108]

the raptor would be noticeable in all besides the backup

they are noisy...keep in mind

but i think the biggest difference would be your program drive fyi

apps will load at twice the speed...everything will feel that much more slick