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Feek

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I've just installed Ventura and the first thing I've noticed is that the login items I previous had set to hide are no longer running hidden. I can't see a tickbox to enable this, am I missing something or looking in the wrong place?

/edit 13th February 2023 - If you don't want to faff with creating plist files, there's now an app that adds this functionality.

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‎Autostarter

‎Autostarter is a small app that makes it possible to launch applications automatically during login without letting the applications show windows, even with macOS Ventura or later. This feature, which Mac users loved, can now still be used, although it had been dropped with the introduction of...
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Feek said:
I've just installed Ventura and the first thing I've noticed is that the login items I previous had set to hide are no longer running hidden. I can't see a tickbox to enable this, am I missing something or looking in the wrong place?
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Also noticed the same problem. Maybe they gave up on hiding the windows since it didn't work correctly half the time.

Did you submit a bug report with Feedback Assistant?
 
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Feek said:
I've just installed Ventura and the first thing I've noticed is that the login items I previous had set to hide are no longer running hidden. I can't see a tickbox to enable this, am I missing something or looking in the wrong place?
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This has been default behavior, unfortunately, for the entire beta process. I've read many other posts from folks complaining of the same thing, too.

I had filed a "suggestion" with Apple's Feedback, but then ultimately filed FB11646152 as a "bug" on October 4. I'd suggest other link to each other's Feedback ID's as to maybe promote the topic from within...
 
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xgman said:
yeah it never worked and i assume was deprecated now.
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There seems to be a lot of things “depreciating” that I’m sure folks will truly hate once it goes live next week. Remember, most people go on with their lives and don’t look into what new software or tech is coming soon or is in beta.. they’re just going along their day. With all of Ventura’s changes this year, and considering how buggy it is, I’d assume there’ll be a quick turnaround on a 13.0.1 release. Not necessarily to go back on changes, but at least hopefully to address a lot of the remaining bugs.
 
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I assume this is the same as what you're referring to in this thread?
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No, we're talking about adding an app (like Mail) and wanting it to open without the window popping up. Past macOS additions have allowed this. What you are referring to is a background process.
 
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No, we're talking about adding an app (like Mail) and wanting it to open without the window popping up. Past macOS additions have allowed this. What you are referring to is a background process.
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Ahh got you. I'll start my own thread as I can't get it to stop popping up every time I start the machine up.
 
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No, we're talking about adding an app (like Mail) and wanting it to open without the window popping up. Past macOS additions have allowed this. What you are referring to is a background process.
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Or in my case, Fantastical opens up now as opposed to prior when it would still launch and be open but the window itself would not.
 
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Or in my case, Fantastical opens up now as opposed to prior when it would still launch and be open but the window itself would not.
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That's the same thing I was trying to say. Sorry for the confusion. Previously, I had Mail, Outlook, Banktivity, and Teams open but have the windows closed/not pop up. This isn't an option anymore.
 
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Isn't the option to reopen the apps at login introduced some years ago enough? The only difference is that they need to be open when you shutdown the computer.
 
galad said:
Isn't the option to reopen the apps at login introduced some years ago enough? The only difference is that they need to be open when you shutdown the computer.
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I leave that option off. I only want a certain set of apps opening when I log in, and I want them to (continue to) open minimized as they have been for years. I don't just want whatever app I'd have open when I reboot to open again...
 
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Some of them still start up in hidden state, like CCC, Logi Tune, LastPass, Creative Cloud, Grammarly, SwitchResX, and TG Pro. For me it is just Macupdater also that is starting up in opened state.
 
MrMacCoolio said:
Ahhhh, that's why my MacUpdater is suddenly starting opened up. How freaking irritating.
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There's a fix for this, I had the same problem.

This is straight from Julian at MacUpdater who said it shouldn't happen because they're using the "new Ventura launch API".

1.) quit MacUpdater

2.) open Apple's Terminal app (from /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app) and past the following line and then press enter
defaults write com.corecode.MacUpdater migratedToSMAppService -int 0

3.) launch MacUpdater manually again

4.) reboot to see if the issue is gone
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now that the "Hide" feature was gone.
Any solution for Chrome broswer ?

edit: i reinstall latest version. solved. it does not even open on startup now.
 
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Any suggestion on how to deal with this issue with BitDefender? It always starts up in open state, and in Monterey, I could set it to hidden...

I wonder if it would be:

defaults write BITDEFENDER migratedToSMAppService -int 0

I just know what BitDefender file to put in...
 
Killerbob said:
Any suggestion on how to deal with this issue with BitDefender? It always starts up in open state, and in Monterey, I could set it to hidden...
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Have not tried this, but basic steps for any app:
  • From Terminal: defaults export com.apple.loginitems - > toedit.plist
  • Edit the plist: for the app in question, locate it in the plist and then look for:
    Code: 
    <key>com.apple.loginitem.HideOnLaunch</key>
<false/>
  • Change false to true; save
  • From Terminal: defaults import com.apple.loginitems toedit.plist (if that does not work: cat toedit.plist | defaults import com.apple.loginitems -)
 
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