logitech control center: AVOID!! BLOATWARE!!

Discussion in 'Mac Accessories' started by slicedbread, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. slicedbread macrumors regular

    Nov 5, 2006
    I have a logitech keyboard/mouse set that I have been running for the past month on my Mac Pro. Due to the extra buttons on the mouse and keyboard (multimedia keys etc) I was kind of forced to install LCC to make use of the extra keys.

    However I have found that software to be extremely buggy, and a massive resource hog (nb. this is on a 2.66/2GB/1900XT Mac pro). Booting up with various different usb devices plugged in, the LCC driver would reset my mouse preferences, and the extra keyboard buttons would stop working.

    Playing around with parallels and VMware USB settings would sometimes do the same thing, LCC driver would crash and require a restart to get full mouse/keyboard funtionality.

    After uninstalling, I am currently using Steermouse and controllermate to get the extra functionality back, and I must say its been the best thing I did! Overall desktop use is snappier, things like expose work faster and smoother, and things like using the multimedia keys for itunes have a much quicker reaction.

    Just a bit of advice to anyone who is stuck with the craptastic drivers from logitech. The only good thing about the program is that it uninstalls relatively cleanly!
  2. SMM macrumors 65816


    Sep 22, 2006
    Tiger Mountain - WA State
    Thanks for the heads-up. I have two sets of these (if you are speaking to the S 530 Mac product). Actually, I have a third backup one still unopened. I have not experienced any of the issues you have mentioned, but I did notice the LCC was using 10MB. Pretty incredible how wasteful programmers have become. If these were automakers, we would all be driving Mack Trucks.

    As far as the keyboard/mouse go, I really love them! I have not been a Logitech fan since the days of the bus mouse. However, for me this is a nice product. I like the slim design and the long, perfectly radiused hand rest. The mouse also fits my hand very comfortably.
  3. iBookG4user macrumors 604


    Jun 27, 2006
    Seattle, WA
    I was checking VMWare out and ran into the same problem of it not allowing me to use the extra mouse buttons after I started VMWare. I like it though, but I don't notice a performance decrease after using the LCC.
  4. JackAxe macrumors 68000


    Jul 6, 2004
    In a cup of orange juice.
    I've been using Logitech Control Center since 2002 and besides an incident with their horrid NuLooq software, all has been fine. I have LCC installed on 2 Powerbooks, my G5, and my G4. I've never lost a button config or noticed anything misbehaving that I'm aware of. But I'm only controling my mice with this software.

    I noticed LCC uses up 3.6 RM 342 VM, and just for reference, Palm Desktop uses up 2.98 RM and 341 VM.

    I don't run VMWare of course, but it seems to be at least part of the issues you're encountering. Have you contacted Logitech? If anything, hopefully they're testing for this sort of thing with their newer drivers.

    I use ControllerMate for my SpaceTraveler, so that I can use it outside of Maya. CM was a great find and actually gave me way more functionality over the SpaceTraveler under OS X, where it has no official support, than 3Dconnexions (A Logitech company.) own drivers do for my PCs running XP. :)

  5. nightsky macrumors member

    Feb 18, 2007
    What Logitech mice are you talking about?

    I am in the market for a wireless bluetooth mouse. Looking at Logitech V200 vs.
    V270 but the reviews confused me. So i don't know which to get. V200 comes w/2.4Ghz receiver which I do not need for PB G4. I am wondering if I could hook up the receiver to my PC so I can use the mouse w/ either power mac or win98se pc? Can anyone advise me? Thank you
  6. synth3tik macrumors 68040


    Oct 11, 2006
    Minneapolis, MN
    I had to uninstall control center. after I did the install everything went all weird on me. I no longer could highlight anything. web browser buttons work very erratically, so on and so forth.

    Sad, I could have use it too, use to buggy......
  7. cc bcc macrumors 6502

    Jul 3, 2001
    LCC is using APE. That might explain a lot of problems.
  8. MBHockey macrumors 68040


    Oct 4, 2003
    New York
    Yeah, and the uninstaller doesn't even remove Ape. Unbelievable crapware.
  9. slicedbread thread starter macrumors regular

    Nov 5, 2006
    I'm really happy I stopped using LCC. So far everything works as I intend to now, no crashing of drivers or unexpected resetting of my hardware settings.

    Steermouse is amazing, you can program some really useful controls to the mouse button, and supports scroll wheel acceleration (a la the new revolution mice) on any old scroll wheel mouse.

    And since I only want the extra media keys on my keyboard, ControllerMate lets me bind them to the inputs/applescripts that I want, and its free! (Controllermate lets you bind up to 10 keys for free before you need to pay for it. However if you wanted more, you could buy it and bind your mouse settings as well and not even get Steermouse).
  10. cc bcc macrumors 6502

    Jul 3, 2001
    Or you can run USBOverdrive in shareware mode (free). Fully functional, but you get a reminder each time you reboot.
  11. cubbie5150 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 4, 2007
    I am using a MX1000 laser mouse that I had used w/ my Windows PC for the past 18 months... I hate that the OS X version of LCC has limited functionality (compared to Windows version). Gonna have to give steermouse a try...
  12. Makosuke macrumors 603

    Aug 15, 2001
    The Cool Part of CA, USA
    I bought an Mx500 years ago because I loved the hardware, but LCC is enough to make me never purchase another Logitec product again. I'm sure I could install an alternate driver if I wanted to buy one of their mice in the future (I really like the feel of whichever one it is that has the thumb wheel), but frankly I don't like to spend my money on companies with shoddy support.

    In a way, no driver would be better than their third-rate garbage because at least then you'd know you were on your own.

    Heck until version 2, there was a bug in the driver that would set the tracking speed on the mouse to "ridiculous" every time you'd restart the computer. It was well known, totally repeatable, and sat there in various new releases of their driver for about two years.

    That's just plain insulting.
  13. telecomm macrumors 65816


    Nov 30, 2003
    Agreed. That's why I stopped using LCC. I've only got a 3-button mouse, so it's fully supported by the default apple drivers. It's a big improvement over LCC (once I got used to the acceleration curve).
  14. spiff101 macrumors member

    Apr 11, 2006
    remove APE

    ..and how do you get rid of APE? no uninstaller..
  15. vohdoun macrumors 65816


    Jan 23, 2006
    Far away from Earth.
    Does that not belong to Unsanity?
  16. nightsky macrumors member

    Feb 18, 2007
    Just setup newS530

    I wasted alot of time trying to find alternatives to LCC software after reading this thread. Finally installed LCC and wow! What a pleasant surprise:) No problems. LCC is working great doing all it's supose to and I am so happy with my first wireless system ;) Thanks
  17. Eidorian macrumors Penryn


    Mar 23, 2005
    I'm glad you took the time to try the program. :D
  18. skwij macrumors 6502

    Apr 10, 2006
    Belleville, ON, Canada
    I hated the fact that lcc20 didn't allow certain functions on my very old, trusty 4-button Marble mouse, but I actually prefer the cruise function over "back" and "forward". So much so that I've reconfigured the Windows box to do the same as the Macs. lcc works great with both Logitech KBs I have, one a wireless 300 series, the other an old Internet Navigator (they have scroll wheels on the left side of the KB, very handy to have!)

    That said, lcc2.3 or whatever the latest version is, just plain didn't work well at all. I had a saved .dmg of an earlier version that I installed instead (I usually save the .dmg onto an external drive if it's an app that I really like).

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