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Long-Delayed TextMate 2 Arrives as Public Alpha

ouimetnick said:
How is this front page worthy? It has NOTHING to do with Apple.
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You are obvious, not a developer...

The reason that this is such news is because TextMate was the only real editor a developer could use on a mac. Its the default now for most developers (of almost any type). There still really isnt any alternative, even on windows that are as good.

Without TextMate, it would be very hard for me to do my job, without TextMate a lot of developers may be using PC's right now instead of macs.
 
Does it now undo more than 1 character at a time? That's the one thing that's driven me nuts about TextMate and I cannot use it like that.
 
That site should at least update the app images with the new 2.0 ones. Those old images look really bad. I personally use Coda and it does everything I need it to do. Never used TextMate so I can't compare the two, but from the pics I see of the older version (I hope it's the older version) this isn't something I would need.

Bryan
 
sperry1988 said:
You are obvious, not a developer...

The reason that this is such news is because TextMate was the only real editor a developer could use on a mac. Its the default now for most developers (of almost any type). There still really isnt any alternative, even on windows that are as good.

Without TextMate, it would be very hard for me to do my job, without TextMate a lot of developers may be using PC's right now instead of macs.
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I'm not a developer (I do very basic development, and TextWrangler works okay for me for now), but what about BBEdit?
 
HiRez said:
Does it now undo more than 1 character at a time? That's the one thing that's driven me nuts about TextMate and I cannot use it like that.
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Actually, this is a feature is miss in a lot of other editors. In every other editor you have to guess how far back it takes you, but with TextMate you have complete control.

Also, those that say this isn't front page news, gtfo, you also posted that to every story about an app that macrumors has ever brought? This is way more relevant than any "Microsoft Tackles iOS Gaming with 'Kinectimals'" or "'Steve Jobs' Tops Amazon's List of Best-Selling Print and Kindle Books for 2011" story. Huge group of developers swear to TextMate, and the only substitute on windows has been sublime text 2 which is basically a very good try to "port" TextMate like editor to other platforms.

Also, if you're a serious developer, you'd rather use this than Coda. Coda is simply far to inferior in anything that has to do with Code awareness related stuff (like indention etc). It closer to using dreamweaver than to use a real editor.
 
sperry1988 said:
There ok if you just doing simple web dev, but TextMate is a must if you plan on going beyond that.
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BBEdit is just for "simple web dev?" Bold words from a brave (wo?)man.

Care to explain, for an (apparently) simple person such as myself and the handful of other people who have asked, what features TextMate offers that BBEdit and TextWrangler do not?
 
Yvan256 said:
How does TextMate 2 compare to TextWrangler and BBEdit?
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From an anecdotal perspective, I have a BBEdit 8.x license. I tried out TextMate when it came out, and it blew me away. BBEdit and TextWrangler have gone through a few major versions since then, and I've given them each a full demo period (TextWrangler obviously more time than BBEdit since it's free anyway). I still use TextMate 1.5.

The Bundle system is key to TextMate. Syntax color coding and collapsing, easy macro editing using any shell language I want (or Lua I think, but I haven't used that), easy tweaking/expansion/addition of language and utility bundles ... all these things are done in a kludgy way by the BB folks, where they are done at all.

The short answer is: Textmate :: BBEdit roughly as Emacs :: Nano, but without the need to learn Lisp. For those who know their Unix editors, at least :)
 
I for one am really excited by this news, and fully approve of its inclusion on the front page. People whine too much around here.
 
Still doesn't come close to WebStorm.

Wouldn't be able to work anymore without the project sensitive auto-complete.

IDE > Editor
 
HiRez said:
Does it now undo more than 1 character at a time? That's the one thing that's driven me nuts about TextMate and I cannot use it like that.
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It's strange, but sometimes I LOVE that feature and other times I want to rip hair out because of it. I almost hope they have two versions of undo. We'll see.

I've tried a bunch of other text editors but something always rubbed me the wrong way more than TextMate so I always went back. I'm more an more interested in BBEdit now that the price isn't absurd, but it looks really out of place in Lion, so... yeah. No go there. Haha.
 
jettredmont said:
Syntax color coding
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What editor doesn't do that?
and collapsing
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That, too.
easy macro editing using any shell language I want (or Lua I think, but I haven't used that),
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So, like, shell scripts, or AppleScript, or Automator? How novel.
easy tweaking/expansion/addition of language and utility bundles
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Like how BBEdit uses regular ol' Mac OS X .plist (XML) files?
The short answer is: Textmate :: BBEdit roughly as Emacs :: Nano, but without the need to learn Lisp. For those who know their Unix editors, at least :)
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Hmm, I wonder what someone who knew their Mac editors would think.;)
 
Sofabutt said:
Seems like a lot of anticipation over nothing.

Better replacements are out there. More active developers have proven their love for their warez, and this pathetic article promotes a developer that hasn't seen fit to update his own software for several years.

What a waste of good publicity.
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I am going to have to agree with this. Given what people are claiming was so great about it, the are plenty of other options now, some of them completely free. That he took so long to reach an alpha state can not be of interest to but the biggest backwards programmer on the planet.

People who have continued to program in Textmate since 2006 in 2011 probably have bigger problems going on.
 
chrules said:
Also, if you're a serious developer, you'd rather use this than Coda. Coda is simply far to inferior in anything that has to do with Code awareness related stuff (like indention etc). It closer to using dreamweaver than to use a real editor.
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If you are a serious developer, you are probably not using a text editor, but a proper IDE.
 
TextMate 2 is to Mac developers as StarCraft II is to RTS gamers

TextMate 2 is to Mac developers as StarCraft II is to RTS gamers.

StarCraft II was the long-anticipated/rumored-dead sequel to one of the best RTSes of all time. Likewise, Textmate 2 is the long-anticipated/rumored-dead sequel to one of the best Code Editors of all time.

This is big news, probably the biggest news MacRumors has had all month.
 
People are so hung up on WebDev that they don't realize this is for way more than html, CSS, php, etc... This app is for those plus major coding languages like C, C++, Objective-C, Ruby, Python and Pearl
 
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