To be safe I showed up at the Walnut Creek Apple Store in CA at 10am. Two hours later i got my pre order ( I was going to go around 4pm). They had a lot of phones its a big store. I was a little worried when I saw the line. I heard the non pre orders wrapped around over 3 blocks at 7pm last night. For every 10 pre orders they let 1 non pre order in...So I heard. Everyone in line around me was cool, but I could not believe some people. When they left the store they went right through the 2 sectioned lines and used the new video feature walking out of the store. Basically showing off as they walked past hundreds of people, and everyone around me was not happy about that. I even told a group of people if you see me do that I give you permission to punch me in the face. I got mine, went around the other way, so no one would see me with my new toy, or show it off like the people I mentioned. The girl waiting on me said last night a guy who got the phone early went up to the people in the non pre-order line and put them on video, showing off their iPhone 4. I just can't believe people would do that. Were all Apple "geeks" friends after all....So I thought. That was the only downside Good luck with your hunt today...or if your still in line! I hope you all get one!