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Longtime Apple Executive Dan Riccio Retiring Later This Month

This forum has a strange kink of wanting to sh*t on Apple employees, especially when they leave.

I have absolutely no clue as to how he worked or was perceived by his colleagues, but man he was there since 98', which was the beginning of the turn around for Apple. This guy has been through some stuff at Apple, that's for sure.
 
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ronno said:
Too heavy, chunky external battery, makes people feel sick…etc… you think it’s not the hardware?
Also the ridiculous price… I’m sure there would be more people developing software if people were actually buying the thing.
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You new here? That’s every 1.0 of Apple hardware.

From the Mac to iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV.

All were chunky and had serious imperfections.

Yet, they become huge products in their later versions.
 
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jaw04005 said:
You new here? That’s every 1.0 of Apple hardware.

From the Mac to iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV.

All were chunky and had serious imperfections.

Yet, they become huge products in their later versions.
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They may have had flaws but they generated huge interest, high sales, lines down the block at stores etc. etc.
You are equating this launch to the launch of the iPhone?Come on now.
 
I find it interesting how apple employees look alike. Robotic, clean shaven, dark or bluish shirt and well coifed hair.
 
Hardware has been exceptional. If one component of Apple Devices has been not great, its Software. Maybe its time for a restructuring in the Software Department, as much as I love Craig.
 
ronno said:
They may have had flaws but they generated huge interest, high sales, lines down the block at stores etc. etc.
You are equating this launch to the launch of the iPhone?Come on now.
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The iPhone was the only one of those 6 products mentioned that had a V1 that would meet your description.

The iPad V1 would have been close, as it was in demand, but I don’t recall lineups in my neighbourhood. The Mac was actually pretty low key until the LaserWriter, iirc. The iPod impressed, but the FireWire version was Mac only, and it didn’t get huge until Apple added USB and Windows support. The Apple Watch V1 was a slow burn and was actually called a flop by many, as was the Apple TV V1.
 
Wild idea: everyone critiquing what he looks like should post pictures of themselves and let us treat you the same. If his appearance isn't up to your standards, let's see how you rate.

This place can be like middle school.
 
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bgillander said:
The iPhone was the only one of those 6 products mentioned that had a V1 that would meet your description.

The iPad V1 would have been close, as it was in demand, but I don’t recall lineups in my neighbourhood. The Mac was actually pretty low key until the LaserWriter, iirc. The iPod impressed, but the FireWire version was Mac only, and it didn’t get huge until Apple added USB and Windows support. The Apple Watch V1 was a slow burn and was actually called a flop by many, as was the Apple TV V1.
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Did you buy the VP?

Also, to be clear, my original comment was after someone suggested that the problems with this product launch had nothing to do with hardware. Seems false to me.
And on that note, I’m done with this thread. Cheers.
 
You will see more veterans leaving as they see the stock heading south with the coming end of app store and other services monopolies/duopolies.
 
ronno said:
They may have had flaws but they generated huge interest, high sales, lines down the block at stores etc. etc.
You are equating this launch to the launch of the iPhone?Come on now.
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Never said that. I said it was in line with generation 1.0 Apple hardware.

As for sales ...

The original Mac was revolutionary, but a sales flop. Apple II kept the company alive for almost a decade after.

It took iPod multiple generations to sell. The first version only support the Mac. It wasn't until iPod mini that it began to take off.

iPad and Apple Watch didn't sell well either until later generations (iPad 2 and Apple Watch Series 3). The original Apple TV (Intel/code name iTV) didn't sell well at all, but the current box seems to be doing fine as the quality leader for that market.

Even iPhone, didn't become popular until carriers subsidized it with iPhone 3G and—if we are going to be honest—iPhone 4 because it finally came to other carriers (like Verizon and international carriers).

Hardware isn't AVP's problem. It's everything else—pricing, marketing and lack of software.
 
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jaw04005 said:
Never said that. I said it was in line with generation 1.0 Apple hardware.

As for sales ...

The original Mac was revolutionary, but a sales flop. Apple II kept the company alive for almost a decade after.

It took iPod multiple generations to sell. The first version only support the Mac. It wasn't until iPod mini that it began to take off.

iPad and Apple Watch didn't sell well either until later generations (iPad 2 and Apple Watch Series 3). The original Apple TV (Intel/code name iTV) didn't sell well at all, but the current box seems to be doing fine as the quality leader for that market.

Even iPhone, didn't become popular until carriers subsidized it with iPhone 3G and—if we are going to be honest—iPhone 4 because it finally came to other carriers (like Verizon and international carriers).

Hardware isn't AVP's problem. It's everything else—pricing, marketing and lack of software.
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Did you buy the VP or not??
 
ronno said:
Did you buy the VP?

Also, to be clear, my original comment was after someone suggested that the problems with this product launch had nothing to do with hardware. Seems false to me.
And on that note, I’m done with this thread. Cheers.
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I didn't buy first generation of any of the 7 products mentioned, because they were first generation (although work did supply me with an iPad V1). People tend to look back more fondly than the reality at the time.

The AVP is interesting enough to be the only first generation product that had me considering buying it, but the $5000 price where I live is hard for me to justify without a specific need, so I can continue to wait for the next generation.
 
Jumpthesnark said:
I have no idea about him or what he looks like, he doesn't live in my head. Nor do I judge him based on his appearance. But thanks for proving my point.
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You don’t understand the difference between someone’s “looks” or appearance and having a “look”, or maybe I wasn’t clear in my verbiage. No worries though… cheers.
 
bgillander said:
I didn't buy first generation of any of the 7 products mentioned, because they were first generation (although work did supply me with an iPad V1). People tend to look back more fondly than the reality at the time.

The AVP is interesting enough to be the only first generation product that had me considering buying it, but the $5000 price where I live is hard for me to justify without a specific need, so I can continue to wait for the next generation.
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People defending the AVP up and down, but they don’t buy it themselves ;-).

And yes, the price is obviously one of the issues with this thing.
 
ronno said:
People defending the AVP up and down, but they don’t buy it themselves ;-).

And yes, the price is obviously one of the issues with this thing.
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Well, since I didn’t buy the first generation iPhone, the iPhone was obviously also a failure, by your benchmark.

People maligning products they have no interest in makes far less sense to me than people defending a product they like, but have yet to buy.

I own each of the six Apple products (Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, and Apple TV) that jaw04005 referenced as having had version 1 issues, but not one of those did I purchase in a version 1 iteration, specifically because early adoption has issues like initial high price. The AVP is expensive, but the bill of materials made it obvious that it would be expensive.

The AVP still has time to be a failure, but as it has only been available for a few months where I live, it seems rather premature to judge. Of course, it only has a chance as long as Apple gives it time to mature, not unlike the Apple Watch and Apple TV.
 
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