Looking for the latest Pages / Numbers / Keynote apps for High Sierra

kinless

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So I finally finished migrating to a newer Mac Pro 5,1 (from a failing 3,1) and at the same time transitioned from El Capitan (10.11) to High Sierra (10.13). Not sure why I never downloaded the iWork apps (Pages/Numbers/Keynote) from the App Store before, but figured I might as well now.

And of course they're now only for 10.14 or higher. *sigh* Why can't they just provide us the latest version of what will work on High Sierra, as I've seen with other downloaded apps? I don't have the option of upgrading to Mojave or Catalina at this time, so that's not a solution at the moment.

At first I was stuck with the older iWork '09 set, but a friend graciously provided newer versions:

Keynote 8.0.1
Numbers 5.0.1
Pages 7.1

According to the wikis there are even later versions than these but I'm not sure how to acquire, much less figure out which version is the highest one still supporting High Sierra.

Does anyone know which versions are the max on High Sierra, and would anyone be willing to provide these apps somehow? I would be forever obliged.
 

flowrider

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Have you tried the Mojave OS? Versions of iWork apps that work in Mojave are available in the App store.

Lou
 

maverick28

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You could download the last compatible versions of you had them purchased already. Doesn't work with all apps, but with iWork it sure will. The problem is you need to tie them with your Apple ID so that the commercial framework could track and register it. If you installed them on High Sierra and launch MAS--> Purchased do you see them on the list? The latest compatible with High Sierra are the x.1 iteration.
 

kinless

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You could download the last compatible versions of you had them purchased already. Doesn't work with all apps, but with iWork it sure will. The problem is you need to tie them with your Apple ID so that the commercial framework could track and register it. If you installed them on High Sierra and launch MAS--> Purchased do you see them on the list? The latest compatible with High Sierra are the x.1 iteration.
That's the issue, I never purchased them prior since I was content with the iWork '09 versions on El Capitan. Now that this machine's on High Sierra, I would like to purchase them but it won't let me since they're no longer compatible. Even after acquiring those copies from my friend and putting them in the Applications folder, nothing shows up in the Mac Apple Store.

What I'd have to do is upgrade my MacBook Pro to Mojave or Catalina (something I'll be doing very soon) and then purchase the apps on there. Hopefully that triggers the proper registration so I can then download the proper versions to the High Sierra computer. Sounds like that may be the only genuine avenue to take.
 

kinless

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You could download the last compatible versions of you had them purchased already. Doesn't work with all apps, but with iWork it sure will. The problem is you need to tie them with your Apple ID so that the commercial framework could track and register it. If you installed them on High Sierra and launch MAS--> Purchased do you see them on the list? The latest compatible with High Sierra are the x.1 iteration.
Unfortunately that doesn't look like it works with the iWork apps. I upgraded my laptop to Mojave and "activated" the purchase of Pages, Numbers, and Keynote there, so they're now associated with my Apple ID. Then I went back to my desktop machine with High Sierra (where those apps now show up in the Purchased list) and attempted to "Update" but there's still an error message saying it needs 10.14 or higher. Ugh!

Funny thing is, I had to completely remove the older versions acquired from my friend, because when the Mac App Store asked me to login first, it had that person's Apple ID in the field and was greyed out so it couldn't be changed. (Looks like they really do tie each downloaded app to an Apple ID!) Only when I deleted those apps did it allow me to sign in with my own Apple ID, but of course it won't download the latest versions supported with High Sierra, so that's a dead end.

So it looks like I'm still stuck with those older versions. Not the end of the world and I don't use them that much where it's not a big deal, but man it drives my OCD crazy that I can't acquire the latest iWork versions supported by High Sierra. Freakin' Apple...
 
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maverick28

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I don't quite understand the whole premise of being able to download compatible software to a macOS depending on its version. This is not fully rationalized on their part: for ex., I used a "hack" (nothing serious really), to trick App Store into letting me download iBook Author for Lion a couple of years ago by spoofing the OS to make it look Yosemite or Sierra to App Store, achieved by changing a specific line in a specific system plist file. I installed iBook Author but that it was incompatible with Lion. Later when I installed High Sierra and Mavericks, I successfully installed corresponding versions on HS and Mavericks however App Store refused me a compatible version for Lion. It looks like they store versions not for any OS and it appears as a purely deliberate decision. As long as they see it fit to let users get their apps for a set of macOSes they deem not obsolete enough they allow downloads. Maybe they abide by some timeframe of revoking older software, maybe that's tied with certificate expiration, only God knows, there're maybe a plenty factors in play. But that's very convoluted, illogical and, in fact, anti-consumer: there're lots of reason why a person might need an older version. Now, consider this silly and pathetic reality in which they're still sell the Snow Leopard DVD and Lion install thumb drive on their site: they make it available for money. How cringe is that.
However, if it's 3rd party dev then they may as well take earlier releases down. Also it seems that Apple Development guidelines directly prohibit submitting software built using an old code-base. This is a cornerstone, however, as it often happens, they exempt themselves from their own rules by selling Snow Leopard copies.