Looks like Apple was just trying to beat it's competition

[diacritic]

I do not think Apple was originally going to deliver the iPad 2 for another month or so but they could not resist when they saw to the Zoom and other new tablets hitting the market before them! We were ALL surprised that the iPad 2 delivery date came with out a warning.

SO Apple got GREEDY and got us to all order now when they knew they did not have NEAR the stock to cover their orders.

Why should we not be surprised . . . . because they have done this in the past!

Your post seems to belie the critique of socialism suggested by your avatar. Do you think that apple should have 300,000,000 ipads available on the first day so that any American who wants one can have one the day it is released? Or do you think that they are going to make a wise financial (capitalist) decision and do what they think is going to make the most profit (and therefore satisfy not the masses but the stockholder)?

 

[Dorkington]

I feel that Honeycomb/ Motorola rushed their releases and minimized their own impact.

I don't think Honeycomb/XOOM was overly rushed, but I do think there was a certain pressure to release it before the iPad 2 hit and completely squashed news about the XOOM.

Thing is, with the XOOM, its more of a public beta/developer release since its the first build of a new OS from Google. And it's also an aggressive new UI/OS experience. It's going to have bugs, and it's going to struggle in sales.

IMO, the XOOM and iPad 2 are completely different things. XOOM/Honeycomb isn't really ready for mass consumption, but has a more aggressive and feature filled OS that they are working on filling out. The iPad 2 is a more conservative approach, and looking more to make money with an easy to use OS with minimal changes and simple hardware upgrades that make user experience better.

The XOOM was never intended to be, and will never be any serious sales threat to the iPad 2.

 

[ovrlrd]

As a creative, running a business, it's imperative to be able to have 2+ apps open at once, simultaneously. Reviewing shots and videos while taking notes ON the device should be easy as pie. Not from Apple's slice of pie obviously.

Huh? I was doing exactly what you described just yesterday with my iPad during a meeting. What brand of multitasking are you talking about? It works great and does not kill the battery life.

It helps to turn on the multitasking gestures though.

 

[RedRobotWeb]

I'm not following how you can't do what you described with your current iPad 2. I run 2+ more apps all the time, switching back and forth between apps.

Also, to say Apple's products are just marketing hype is really disingenuous.

it's all about marketing hype. It the Apple-loving press reports that the Ipad 2 is sold out everywhere, lines at Apple stores, and delayed shipments, it makes people wonder if they should want one too. Hell I bought an ipad 2 on launch day because of it. i'm the only one of my friends with an ipad 2. the rest either have ipad 1 or iphones.

Apple is more about marketing and press-spin then they are about their devices (and DEFINITELY the mac platform and pro software) these days.

I have an ipad 2 which I'm debating returning. Looks cool, feels cool.. backlight bleeding.. not sure if I'll actually use it. I'm hoping to hear more about REAL multitasking (not jailbroken) in iOS 5. I'm stunned this hasn't been fully addressed by Apple yet.

As a creative, running a business, it's imperative to be able to have 2+ apps open at once, simultaneously. Reviewing shots and videos while taking notes ON the device should be easy as pie. Not from Apple's slice of pie obviously. I'll be checking out Xoom today, or buying a moleskine case/pad if I keep this device. This is only my view of it, which I'm entitled to. Other Apple fans or users may feel differently, and I respect that. more power to you.

So far disappointed but willing to keep investigating...

 

[maxinflixion]

As I drove around from store to store on Saturday morning (damn my wife for making a dinner date for Friday 3/11) realizing how limited stock was, I thought this exact thing.

This all smacks of a pre-emptive strike before the wifi Xoom and other tablets hit. "It's not about specs, it's about experience". Really?!?!?! Give a developer the specs and they can come up with a better experience. You can't send an over-the-air update to your hardware can you???

This being said, iPad still has apps. Both Killer and otherwise. It'll be a while before Android catches up here.

Still, have to wonder, how the 3/27 Xoom wifi launch fit so perfectly into the majority of people's iPad 2 online ordering window.

Conspiracy? No. Good business and marketing? Yes.

 

[Night Spring]

As a creative, running a business, it's imperative to be able to have 2+ apps open at once, simultaneously. Reviewing shots and videos while taking notes ON the device should be easy as pie. Not from Apple's slice of pie obviously. I'll be checking out Xoom today, or buying a moleskine case/pad if I keep this device.

As others have posted, you can do that with the iPad, unless you want two app windows open *at once.* In which case, I'm not sure even the Xoom does what you want. It does have app preview windows, but I think once you tap on one of the preview panes, the app goes full screen, thus hiding all other apps from view. But I could be wrong, do let me know if I am.

 

[einmusiker]

I agree!!!!!! And of course it's the rich that all get them first. And those capitalizing oinkers that ship them off to europe. What about the rest of us stuck in the middle??? We need to rise up against the oppression of the working class!!!! you with me op???? Ya WITH ME?????

Sent from my iPad 2

lol

 

[vrDrew]

SO Apple got GREEDY and got us to all order now when they knew they did not have NEAR the stock to cover their orders.

So a company that seeks to maximize it's profits is a bad thing?

This sort of attitude is somewhat hard to reconcile with your avatar, which implies that socialism is a bad thing.

Maybe you are just one of those people who like to complain.

 

[IbisDoc]

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Meh. It's pretty standard these days for armchair-CEO's to go on a rant about what a company should or shouldn't do. In cases talking about Apple launching without being "ready", the unspoken assumption is that it's somehow magically easy to gauge actual consumer demand for a product update.

Much like the old quip that "it's a shame that all the people who really know how to run the country are too busy driving cabs and cutting hair," it appears that the people who know what's best for Apple are too busy posting conspiracy-laden drivel on these forums.

It's a shame that all of the people who spend considerable amounts if their lives passionately defending a corporation are not qualified to be hired by it's legal defense team or marketing department. I guess that's what it means to be a fanboy.

 

[iLunar]

Apple is more about marketing and press-spin then they are about their devices (and DEFINITELY the mac platform and pro software) these days.

I have an ipad 2 which I'm debating returning. Looks cool, feels cool.. backlight bleeding.. not sure if I'll actually use it. I'm hoping to hear more about REAL multitasking (not jailbroken) in iOS 5. I'm stunned this hasn't been fully addressed by Apple yet.

As a creative, running a business, it's imperative to be able to have 2+ apps open at once, simultaneously. Reviewing shots and videos while taking notes ON the device should be easy as pie. Not from Apple's slice of pie obviously. I'll be checking out Xoom today, or buying a moleskine case/pad if I keep this device. This is only my view of it, which I'm entitled to. Other Apple fans or users may feel differently, and I respect that. more power to you.

So far disappointed but willing to keep investigating...

I'd say as a creative professional, you're using the wrong tool to run your business. Why not opt for a Macbook Air if multi-tasking is the be-all-end-all for you? It combines much of the iPad's sleekness and portability, with the ability to run creative suites while multi-tasking.

I see no reason to complain that the iPad is not meeting YOUR business requirements when you've chosen the wrong tool. If Apple releases an iPad that suits your needs, then perhaps that's the time to buy it?

 

[poloponies]

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It's a shame that all of the people who spend considerable amounts if their lives passionately defending a corporation are not qualified to be hired by it's legal defense team or marketing department. I guess that's what it means to be a fanboy.

Ooh, biting criticism. Guess you showed me....

 

[jqc]

So let me get the straight! You think it is wise of Apple to lie to it's customers about when the iPad would be delivered. The deliberately deceive it's loyal customers with dates that they KNEW would be impossible to keep? This was no error as Apple knows how many units they have in their inventory.

Apple simply lied to get you to order from them and not be tempted by one of the other manufacturers who ARE actually delivering their product!

Seriously, have any of your ranters any real world business experience? even taken an economics class? Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand? Sure they knew how many units they had, do you think they know exactly how many units will be in demand???

How exactly has apple lied to you? They said it was available on a certain date and it was. They havent released numbers but the estimates have said thay they sold twice as many ipads the first weekend as during the second launch, would that be around 600K units or so? how exactly does that constitute NOT delivering their product.

You guys need to relax, its obviously a product in high demand as indicated by your ridiculous ranting for not having one if your hands right now. So the other manufacturers are shipping their product?? Then go BUY IT? Wait, you dont want to? You WANT an IPAD? Do you think you are the ONLY ONE who wants one??? Again, supply and demand folks.

Apple promised availability on a certain day and it was. and not in insignificant quantities either. They owe you nothing beyond that.

Delaying the launch to build up inventory and not disappoint "loyal customers"?? Again, do you have ANY business sense??? Apple is SOLD out, they are selling them as fast as they can make them...is not the ultimate objective ANY business??? As a consumer, would you really prefer that apple delayed the launch for 3 months or that you can place an order an get it within 5 weeks?

Severe lust over a luxury product and impatience over the lack of instant gratification is blinding you to realities of life.....use your first gen ipads for few more weeks and get over it.

 

[huskerchad]

Yep, Apple was just trying to beat its competition with the iPad 2. Same as with iPhone/iPhone3G/iPhone3GS/iPhone4/iPad1/Macs/iPods/etc.

(Pssst...Motorola and Samsung were trying to beat their competition with their tablets as well...they didn't.)

 

[DiamondMac]

So a company that seeks to maximize it's profits is a bad thing?

This sort of attitude is somewhat hard to reconcile with your avatar, which implies that socialism is a bad thing.

Maybe you are just one of those people who like to complain.

Well, he probably thinks like most of his kind...its socialism when a certain person is in DC but if another is in DC and does the exact same thing, it is the "American Way"

 

[phyrexia]

During the iPad 2 release presentation, there was a slide with a quote from a Samsung VP...

"As you heard, our sell-in was quite aggressive … around two million. In terms of sell-out, we believe it was quite small."

I only use this quote to illustrate my point (because there is some debate to the accuracy of the quote) which is that any time you launch a new product, even if you know that it will be a hit, you never overload your stock.

What if Apple built 2 million units & had them all sitting in a warehouse ready to go? What could go wrong there? Well...

• If sales do not meet expectations, they have to eat 2 million iPads.
• If a design flaw is found, they have to eat 2 million iPads.
• If there are glue issues, they have to eat 2 million iPads.
• If there is light bleed, they have to eat 2 million iPads.
• If there is a death grip antenna issue, they have to eat 2 million iPads.

The list goes on. If, instead, they manufacture 250k-500k units, they can deliver to the early adopters while making any necessary tweaks to the production process, including ramping it up to 200% to meet demand.

Take a lesson in business risk planning. Would you rather have the problem of eating a ton of defective units because you wanted to be able to meet 100% of initial demand, or would you rather have to have your PR guy work overtime trying to explain to your customers why it will be worth the wait?

There is no debate as to the accuracy of the quote. It is incorrect. The last word spoken was 'smooth'. Samsung was misquoted and pretty much all the media outlets corrected themselves.

 

[reputationZed]

SO Apple got GREEDY and got us to all order now when they knew they did not have NEAR the stock to cover their orders.

Why should we not be surprised . . . . because they have done this in the past!

As long as we are reminiscing let's remember what happened the last time Apple failed to be aggressive. Apple had a significant lead in over Microsoft in GUI O/S and sat back and did nothing while MS brought out Windows 3.0 and Windows 95.

How does Apple profit by not having enough supply to meet demand. If greed was their motive the iPad would be selling for a premium. Your post comes of more about your feeling sorry for yourself than a legit argument about business Apples business practices.

 

[reputationZed]

Seriously, have any of your ranters any real world business experience? even taken an economics class? Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand? Sure they knew how many units they had, do you think they know exactly how many units will be in demand???

How exactly has apple lied to you? They said it was available on a certain date and it was. They havent released numbers but the estimates have said thay they sold twice as many ipads the first weekend as during the second launch, would that be around 600K units or so? how exactly does that constitute NOT delivering their product.

You guys need to relax, its obviously a product in high demand as indicated by your ridiculous ranting for not having one if your hands right now. So the other manufacturers are shipping their product?? Then go BUY IT? Wait, you dont want to? You WANT an IPAD? Do you think you are the ONLY ONE who wants one??? Again, supply and demand folks.

Apple promised availability on a certain day and it was. and not in insignificant quantities either. They owe you nothing beyond that.

Delaying the launch to build up inventory and not disappoint "loyal customers"?? Again, do you have ANY business sense??? Apple is SOLD out, they are selling them as fast as they can make them...is not the ultimate objective ANY business??? As a consumer, would you really prefer that apple delayed the launch for 3 months or that you can place an order an get it within 5 weeks?

Severe lust over a luxury product and impatience over the lack of instant gratification is blinding you to realities of life.....use your first gen ipads for few more weeks and get over it.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that comon sense is being replaced with a sense of entitlement. A lot of people just can't see that they are accountable for their lives. Someone 'owes' them or someone's 'screwed them'.

It's sad, sometimes I think this country's gone to hell ever since John Wayne died.

 

[diabolic]

We shall see as today is the last day that Apple can keep using the "ships in 3-5 days".

They either need to ship a butt load of iPads today or get caught telling one heck of a big whopper lie to is loyal customers. I am betting they come up with a lie! I set my alarm and ordered mine at 12:06 PST and still not shipped, NOT EVEN in the prepared for shipment mode, just nothing.

It is hard to believe that Apple had ANY inventory when they can not fill a order made 6 minutes after introduction!

Your order said "ships in 3-5 business days". They still have a couple of days before that period is over.

 

[Funnone]

Right now it appears the retail stores are getting more stock then the online stores. It isn't that there is no inventory... it is how you prioritize the inventory you have. Everybody that didn't get one wants one... the online people want them shipped now. the people calling retail stores want their store to get a big shipment. It is tough for Apple to decide how and where to prioritize their stock. Somebody isn't going to be happy.

I agree i just walked in to a Target and got just what i wanted!
64gig white wifi

 

[[G5]Hydra]

ith out a warning.

SO Apple got GREEDY and got us to all order now when they knew they did not have NEAR the stock to cover their orders.

Well at least Apple is shipping a finished product. If Apple was greedy for wanting to ship their complete product near the Xoom launch what does that make Moto for shipping theirs without THREE major features on their Xoom?As it stands today those features are still not available. I'm talking Flash, LTE and SD card slot. I have a feeling no matter how prepared they were for launch they were just going to not have enough capacity on tap for the demand.

Edit to add that two of those three features are probably going to kill battery life. Kinda nice for them the initial reviews won't hammer the increased drain until many customer already have them and can't return them.

 

[diabolic]

So let me get the straight! You think it is wise of Apple to lie to it's customers about when the iPad would be delivered. The deliberately deceive it's loyal customers with dates that they KNEW would be impossible to keep? This was no error as Apple knows how many units they have in their inventory.

Apple simply lied to get you to order from them and not be tempted by one of the other manufacturers who ARE actually delivering their product!

It looks like your iPad 2 shipped on time within their 3-5 business day window:

Nothing is stopping me!

It arrives today!

 

[62tele]

I do not think Apple was originally going to deliver the iPad 2 for another month or so but they could not resist when they saw to the Zoom and other new tablets hitting the market before them! We were ALL surprised that the iPad 2 delivery date came with out a warning.

SO Apple got GREEDY and got us to all order now when they knew they did not have NEAR the stock to cover their orders.

Why should we not be surprised . . . . because they have done this in the past!

Perhaps your sig gave away your inteligence. If not, this post certainly did!