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Lost (TV show)

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stonyc said:
It sure looked like one, didn't it? :)

EDIT: Wouldn't that put the origination of the hatch (or at least what's in the hatch now) at 1978-1979? Which is roughly 16 years prior to the events of the show, and would also put Rousseau's shipwreck around the same time?
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Good point - I think in one of the later episodes of Series 1, Rousseau said her crew went to the island to find the source of the number broadcast... which means that broadcast must have something to do with the hatch?
 
You know what doesn't really make any sense...

So Jack met Desmond in the not so distant past... maybe a year or two ago? So what then is Desmond doing in an undergound establishment that is dated to the late 70's? He most certainly has not been there for thirty years, as Jack met him in the stadium.

A simple, blurry timeline looks something like this:

Hatch/Island's conception>>>Jack meets Desmond>>>Desmond goes to hatch>>>Jack goes to hatch.

Unless Desmond left the hatch to meet Jack, then returned again...
 
pdpfilms said:
So Jack met Desmond in the not so distant past... maybe a year or two ago? So what then is Desmond doing in an undergound establishment that is dated to the late 70's? He most certainly has not been there for thirty years, as Jack met him in the stadium... Unless Desmond left the hatch to meet Jack, then returned again.
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I agree with you about the timeline, that had occurred to me as well. Well, that settles it: I guess we're going to have to keep watching the show to learn the answer, aren't we? ;)
 
Lyle said:
I agree with you about the timeline, that had occurred to me as well. Well, that settles it: I guess we're going to have to keep watching the show to learn the answer, aren't we? ;)
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Damnit, I knew this was going to happen...
 
I've just watched a few parts of it again.

First thing I noticed, is on the container of the liquid Desmond injects, are 'the numbers' and 'RX-1'. The strange thing is though, in his 'apartment', there seems to be sun light at his window - which is underground, but it's night on the island :confused:

I'm thinking Truman Show?
 
yeah my girlfriend and i watched the beginning again, and noticed "the numbers" on the bottles of pills.

also the "daylight".


what we did notice though, was the old (maybe 16 years old) computer and tape machines etc, BUT, there are plenty of modern day appliances there too, like the washer and dryer, and the food mixer, and the trash can for example. seems like the "experiment" or whatever it is has been going on for years, and they still use the original servers/terminals or whatever, but Desmond has access to "the outside world".

my theory (which is probably full of holes) is that they're in a biodome of sorts, and Desmond is the "zookeeper".
 
evoluzione said:
what we did notice though, was the old (maybe 16 years old) computer and tape machines etc, BUT, there are plenty of modern day appliances there too, like the washer and dryer, and the food mixer, and the trash can for example. seems like the "experiment" or whatever it is has been going on for years, and they still use the original servers/terminals or whatever, but Desmond has access to "the outside world".
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I noticed the new appliances too - something that was quite odd, given that many things (record player, exercise bike) were old, but others were very new. Hmmm.

As for the dates - it seems that Jack was quite a bit younger, as was his dad. I'd hazard a guess it was at least 7-10 years ago. This was before he almost got married to Sarah. But probably not 16 years.

OT: Anyone else make the mistake of watching Invasion after the show? Not sure that's going to last very long.
 
What did Desmond say to Jack in the stadium? About why he was trainiing? I think he said something to the effect of "training to race around the world" or something. Any significance to that? He also said that he "almost went to med school" or something.

Those injections struck me as a booster of some sorts... hence the quarantine?

Also, I didn't notice for sure but was the word "quarantine" on the inside or the outside of the hatch? Because if it were on the outside, you would have thunk that Locke, Boone, Jack or Sayeed would have noticed that in the first season. If the "quarantine" were actually on the inside of the hatch, that would raise an interesting scenario..

As far as the sunlight down in the hatch goes, I have one possible explanation: mirrors.

Desmond had set up mirrors to shine the light outside the hatch, he could just as easily have another hatch with which to direct sunlight into his habitat. Maybe? Heh, dunno.. sounds good though.

For some reason also, I felt when watching Jack's flashbacks that they were taking place 5-10 years ago.

Wow. Lots of random thoughts..

EDIT: Also, there's that period when Jack was examining what sounded like a generator and the key around his neck was attracted to that direction. What kind of power sources generate magnetic fields that strong?

And finally, did anyone catch what Walt was saying to Shannon? I couldn't really tell.. and that scene was really freaky by the way. :)
 
stonyc said:
As far as the sunlight down in the hatch goes, I have one possible explanation: mirrors.

Desmond had set up mirrors to shine the light outside the hatch, he could just as easily have another hatch with which to direct sunlight into his habitat. Maybe? Heh, dunno.. sounds good though.

Wow. Lots of random thoughts..
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I think this light was just artificial. When they blew the hatch and disrupted Desmond, he shut off all the light with a few switches...my bet is that they were just naturalistic lighting to keep him from feeling like he lived 50 feet underground.
 
I agree it was artificial light (barring an very bizarre sci-fi explanation, which it not outside the scope of the show of course).

I think Desmond knew of the island and travelled there to replace a crew that had been there (died there?) before. Hence the older stuff mingled with newer stuff.

I suspect the powerful magnetic force is tied in (energy source?) with the invisible monster/guardian.
 
stonyc said:
And finally, did anyone catch what Walt was saying to Shannon? I couldn't really tell.. and that scene was really freaky by the way. :)
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I couldn't tell, but he seemed to want her to keep quiet, so perhaps he had escaped from his captors and was hiding or trying to escape. But then he ran away. Perhaps when he heard other footsteps he assumed he was about to be caught again.
 
stonyc said:
Also, I didn't notice for sure but was the word "quarantine" on the inside or the outside of the hatch? Because if it were on the outside, you would have thunk that Locke, Boone, Jack or Sayeed would have noticed that in the first season. If the "quarantine" were actually on the inside of the hatch, that would raise an interesting scenario..
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I wonder who is under the quarantine? The guy living in the hatch? Or the people on the island? It seems to me that the man in the hatch is being protected from islanders, and not the other way around. There must be another entrance to this thing somewhere.


allison.
 
allisonv7 said:
I wonder who is under the quarantine? The guy living in the hatch? Or the people on the island? It seems to me that the man in the hatch is being protected from islanders, and not the other way around. There must be another entrance to this thing somewhere.


allison.
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That's what I'm thinking too. But why? :) Ahhhh.........
 
yea, the timeline seems all out of whack. 70's music, stereo and exercise bike( love the groovy corvette guages) but yet a very modern washer and dryer. and the word " quarentine" was indeed on the inside of the hatch...so who is truly inside and outside?

didn't desmond say "see ya in another life" to jack when he left the stadium?

and isn't shannon's last name rutherford? the same as the guy killed in the car crash with jack's wife to be...

nice season opener! did anyone else think the opening segment was a commercial at first?
 
3rdpath said:
didn't desmond say "see ya in another life" to jack when he left the stadium?
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Yes, that's what I heard him say.

The other thing about their conversation, which I'm sure you guys picked up on, was Desmond's persistence in asking Jack, "What if there was something you could do to fix her?". (I'm paraphrasing). With the follow-up of the patient wiggling her toes, I got the feeling that they were implying that some sort of Faustian bargain had been struck between Desmond and Jack.

I got into watching "Lost" pretty late last season, so I'm looking forward to renting the Season 1 DVDs and "catching up" real soon now.
 
stonyc said:
It sure looked like one, didn't it? :)

EDIT: Wouldn't that put the origination of the hatch (or at least what's in the hatch now) at 1978-1979? Which is roughly 16 years prior to the events of the show, and would also put Rousseau's shipwreck around the same time?
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Rousseau would have wrecked in 87-88.

It did look like an Apple II though.

Figure Sawyer for 36 or so(8 in '76).

If Jack is the same age as Sawyer. That would mean that the flashback wouldn't have happened any earlier than '92.

The term SUV wasn't in use until the mid 90s once again dating the flashback to the mid 90s. Had I paid more attention and not started watching at midnight I might have more to back up the statements.

The guy is an anachronism. Or living in one.
 
Lyle said:
The other thing about their conversation, which I'm sure you guys picked up on, was Desmond's persistence in asking Jack, "What if there was something you could do to fix her?". (I'm paraphrasing). With the follow-up of the patient wiggling her toes, I got the feeling that they were implying that some sort of Faustian bargain had been struck between Desmond and Jack.
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We also have the connection to Locke, who arrived on the island in a wheelchair and regained the use of his legs after the crash.

Perhaps the island's curative powers are the reason for the underground (research?) facility.
 
I am starting to think that Desmond definitely has a way off of the island. I am theorizing that next week's big revelation is that Desmond somehow is connected to many of the other survivors.

Begin wild theories
I think Desmond hand picked these people to be on the island and throughout this season we will get glimpses into how all of the main characters know Desmond.

I know that they don't often mention dates, but I wonder if there is any correlation between the date that Locke lost his ability to walk and the date that Jack's ex-wife regained control of her legs?
end wild theories.
 
I think I need to watch the season premiere again... I must have been distracted by something else, because I think I missed some of the points raised in previous posts. (Ditto with Invasion.)
 
ooooh, I'm dying to press that button in that computer room. I'm guessing that is what Walt is talking about. But Desmond REALLY doesn't want that to happen for some reason. Theres is nothing but a command line so I have no idea what that thing is for. Unless its something like

"Have black smoke creature eat everyone and their brother?
Y/N

Invasion both sucked and blew. It was just soooo boring! The only thing humerous that came out of it is now everyone I watched it with just randomly yells "Carlita!". :rolleyes:
 
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