The problem isn't the price, Apple. The reason people are caring less and less about the iPhone is because the OS is awful/weak and the phones pale in comparison to much much much better phones from Samsung.
Well, turns out the rumors were true: Apple's started nose diving since Steve's passing.
The rumor has not debunked at all. And I am relaxed, just annoyed that after correcting posters twice myself, you still post about "0$ iPhone on 3 year contract".
I don't freak out over 3 year terms, I have a 3 year term for my iPhone 5. We're talking emerging markets and markets where pre-paid phones are more popular than subsidized phones on long terms with big monthly fees.
And what the hell do you think Apple stands for ? The iPod Shuffle, the iPod Nano, the Mac Mini are all the same kind of products we're discussing here. Low cost entries into the ecosystem for people who can't afford the higher end devices.
Apple absolutely stands for this and their continue revenue growth depends on them exploring new markets/segments at this point with the high end smartphone segment reaching maturity.
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What was their rate of growth YtoY ? What have they been sustaining as a growth rate YtoY for the last 5 years ?
What you said doesn't at all debunk what you are replying to. BMW is a niche luxury car company (in the US at least). Apple is a mass market consumer electronics company that has been growing at exponential rates in the last few years.
The way the investment market works these days is you have to keep your growth going, or you're not healthy.
Oh well does it fair in contrast to the iPod Touch ?
Who said a new low cost iPhone even has to be a iOS type device to begin with ? An iPhone Nano could very much run an OS that does basic music/phone/messaging/browsing without support for the App Store or other functionality of an iPhone.
Hey, just like an iPod Nano vs an iPod Touch! Again, look at what Apple does in other line-ups and you'll have your answer.
I swear it's a disease. It's spreading too.
Wow, that's a great comment! 15 pages in and no one yet thought of this. Maybe it is a rumor about a low cost iPhone for the unsubsidized market like pre-paid or no contract subscriptions.
I can't believe winston1236 is the first guy to think about this, we should all be ashamed of ourselves.
I think you're far too engrossed in this rumour to the point where you have less to add to the conversation than every reply you are making just to tell everyone that they are wrong and you are right.
And because It's fun, I'll throw this in one more time. You can pick up previous gen iPhone's at $0 on a 3 year term.
Before you lose it, I understand where you are coming from in that Apple could make a boatload of money by creating an entry level iPhone for the masses. Also that a ton of their products, ie iPod Shuffle, and lower end MacBook Pro's are more geared toward the average consumer. But you need to stop and respect the opinions of others as well, especially when we are discussing a RUMOR and a rumor that an Apple Exec already went on the record stating that Apple would not be making sacrifices to create a lower end iPhone.
You're reading too much into my posts if you think that. I'm presenting arguments, based on facts and Apple's previous product lines and moves.
Not at all. I understand the rumour, I just wanted you to get all excited like you have been everytime anyone mentioned subsidized prices and contract terms.Just shows you don't even understand what the rumor is about.
Again with the "facts". At the end of the day, you don't know any more than anyone else on this website unless you work for the aforementioned company.It's not about Apple making a boatload of money. And I've already addressed how Phil Schiller didn't go on the record saying it won't come true. I've based this explanation in facts. Do you have something to add based on other facts or are you just going to dismiss everything I've typed ?
In the end, if you're not interested in participating in the discussion, why are you even reading the thread or the rumors ?
Then state your facts with some evidence of them.
I have. Unless you mean to say that all my mentions of existing Apple products are pure figments of my imagination and that "iPod Nano" is just a rumor (even though I've owned several myself) ?
Address my actual arguments and we'll discuss, otherwise you're just producing noise here.
Preexisting products =/= Apple's internal business plan. Basing arguments on preexisting products is called speculation and educated guessing.
I'm not sure what country you're in, but in the US an iPhone 4 can be gotten for free with a contract with the provider. Even if you get a brand new top of the line iPhone 5, the cost of the phone is a drop in the bucket compared with the money you'll be spending on a plan. I can't see a low cost iPhone causing new people to get an iPhone in the US that couldn't afford them before. I see it more for the developing world.
Exactly, I have made speculation and guesses based on existing product line-ups as backing (facts about Apple's past strategies). That's more to say than most people who have yet to even address my speculation, much less back theirs up with existing products/strategies/history.
Again, do you have anything to contribute before I move you to ignore here ? Other than you still don't get this isn't about a cheaper phone in the current subsidized market ?
I'm sorry, I was busy reading all of the other replies you've posted in this thread and how ridiculous they were.
Ok, since you feel my replies were ridiculous yet fail to say what was, why you think so, based on what history/current trends/facts, then I think we can't discuss anymore.
You just outright dismissed everything I said, without providing a counter point and you accuse me of posting and discussing essentially. You don't seem to have anything to contribute, aside from your misunderstanding you still can't admit so I'll simply ignore you and suggest others do the same.
Yes, just like Ford or Chevy do....
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I suppose plastic will suddenly become magical and innovative.![]()
Something tells me that people living in third world countries don't wake up in the morning thinking about how they are going to get an iPhone.![]()
It went from being a cool car from
I'm sorry, I was busy reading all of the other replies you've posted in this thread and how ridiculous they were.
Well, turns out the rumors were true: Apple's started nose diving since Steve's passing.
I Love the iPhone 3Gs - I have version 5 but the form of the 3Gs is still the best imo!
You are basically describing an old feature phone from circa 2000. Is Apple going to release a new portable audio cassette player next?Oh well does it fair in contrast to the iPod Touch ?
Who said a new low cost iPhone even has to be a iOS type device to begin with ? An iPhone Nano could very much run an OS that does basic music/phone/messaging/browsing without support for the App Store or other functionality of an iPhone.
Thats some mighty presumtion. Microsofts only problem is not just a few fools at the top. But how Balmer even have a job there after making those hilarious iPhone predicitons back in the day is perplexing.
Not sure balmer is in charge of product design![]()
Hmmm...if that turns to be true it sounds like bad times for Apple IMO
You are basically describing an old feature phone from circa 2000. Is Apple going to release a new portable audio cassette player next?
It's called the iPhone 4![]()