LTE toggle for Control center


0000757

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I'd trade it anyday for a bluetooth toggle!

we need this!
Out of curiosity, why?

The purpose of quick settings is to turn on and off common features that are always being turned off an on.

What situation are you put in that requires LTE/Cellular to constantly be turned off and on regularly?
 

MVallee

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I often turn off LTE because it kills my battery. When I go to an LTE area I can literally feel my phone heating up in my pocket and I can watch battery life drop 5% at a time.
 

apollo1444

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Out of curiosity, why?

The purpose of quick settings is to turn on and off common features that are always being turned off an on.

What situation are you put in that requires LTE/Cellular to constantly be turned off and on regularly?
poor coverage? constantly searching for weak LTE signal and then dropping it resulting in poor battery life.

LTE is not mainstream yet unless you have Verizon but there are people in other countries which are still deploying this technology
 

chances14

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poor coverage? constantly searching for weak LTE signal and then dropping it resulting in poor battery life.

LTE is not mainstream yet unless you have Verizon but there are people in other countries which are still deploying this technology
even verizon has issues, at least where i live.

i would much rather have an LTE toggle than a bluetooth toggle. although this could all be solved if apple gave us the option to customize the control center
 

apollo1444

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Hit Airplane mode.

Then hit WiFi on.

Magic.
you can't be this stupid... why would I want to block cellular calls? my phone needs to be on all the time to receive text and calls. I just want to head back to regular 3G/4G, my city has LTE but my house struggles getting signal tilll you walk out, and while it struggles finding LTE it drains your battery life. you really don't understand how this works.
 

dontpannic

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you can't be this stupid... why would I want to block cellular calls? my phone needs to be on all the time to receive text and calls. I just want to head back to regular 3G/4G, my city has LTE but my house struggles getting signal tilll you walk out, and while it struggles finding LTE it drains your battery life. you really don't understand how this works.
How about leaving LTE off until you need it, rather than turning it off every time you have problems? 3G is fine for regular web browsing...
 

apollo1444

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How about leaving LTE off until you need it, rather than turning it off every time you have problems? 3G is fine for regular web browsing...
how about an LTE toggle that can allow me to do that instead of taking more steps to do it? almost everybody would prefer LTE over bluetooth

it was the most requested feature that auxo people and the nc settings developer got.
 

cjmillsnun

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I'd rather have bluetooth any day. I'd keep LTE off anyway coverage is way too patchy right now.
 

Daveoc64

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The major problem with this is that Apple allows carriers to disable the toggles for 3G and LTE.

If they were to put either or both in "Control Center", they'd need to handle:

1) What happens if your carrier doesn't offer LTE

2) What happens if your carrier doesn't offer 3G (sounds unlikely, but that's the reality in some countries)

3) What happens if your carrier disables the LTE toggle

4) What happens if your carrier disables the 3G toggle

What happens with all of the combinations of the above? What does the UI look like? Do they show a greyed-out icon? Do they move things around? What about the iPod touch/iPad (without cellular data)?

"Cellular Data" should be an easier toggle to add (and really, it's the only toggle people should be using on a regular basis), as that can't be disabled by carriers.
 

cynics

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The major problem with this is that Apple allows carriers to disable the toggles for 3G and LTE.

If they were to put either or both in "Control Center", they'd need to handle:

1) What happens if your carrier doesn't offer LTE

2) What happens if your carrier doesn't offer 3G (sounds unlikely, but that's the reality in some countries)

3) What happens if your carrier disables the LTE toggle

4) What happens if your carrier disables the 3G toggle

What happens with all of the combinations of the above? What does the UI look like? Do they show a greyed-out icon? Do they move things around? What about the iPod touch/iPad (without cellular data)?

"Cellular Data" should be an easier toggle to add (and really, it's the only toggle people should be using on a regular basis), as that can't be disabled by carriers.
Thats a lot of 'what ifs' there. They'd have to implement it in the way other non iOS LTE smartphones do. :)

However if I had to choose I'd want a Bluetooth toggle.
 

applesith

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you can't be this stupid... why would I want to block cellular calls? my phone needs to be on all the time to receive text and calls. I just want to head back to regular 3G/4G, my city has LTE but my house struggles getting signal tilll you walk out, and while it struggles finding LTE it drains your battery life. you really don't understand how this works.
You still get calls and text messages with cellular data off. Cellular data is for any communication beyond basic calls and texts. Shouldn't call others stupid when you don't know what you are talking about.
 

fivedots

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You still get calls and text messages with cellular data off. Cellular data is for any communication beyond basic calls and texts. Shouldn't call others stupid when you don't know what you are talking about.
The post he was referencing suggested turning on Airplane mode and Wifi, which only leaves you with wifi and no cellular connection, voice or data.
 

apollo1444

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The major problem with this is that Apple allows carriers to disable the toggles for 3G and LTE.

If they were to put either or both in "Control Center", they'd need to handle:

1) What happens if your carrier doesn't offer LTE

2) What happens if your carrier doesn't offer 3G (sounds unlikely, but that's the reality in some countries)

3) What happens if your carrier disables the LTE toggle

4) What happens if your carrier disables the 3G toggle

What happens with all of the combinations of the above? What does the UI look like? Do they show a greyed-out icon? Do they move things around? What about the iPod touch/iPad (without cellular data)?

"Cellular Data" should be an easier toggle to add (and really, it's the only toggle people should be using on a regular basis), as that can't be disabled by carriers.
did you used nc settings? if a carrier didnt offer LTE it had a 3G switch... what seems to be the issue I fail to see it?

if a carrier supports LTE it will say LTE

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You still get calls and text messages with cellular data off. Cellular data is for any communication beyond basic calls and texts. Shouldn't call others stupid when you don't know what you are talking about.
I responded to a guy that said, "activate airplane mode" can you get texts and calls with that?

you need to read the thread.
 

Daveoc64

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did you used nc settings? if a carrier didnt offer LTE it had a 3G switch... what seems to be the issue I fail to see it?
It's about how many possible configurations Apple has to support.

My carrier does not offer LTE or the 3G switch.

What would be shown on my phone? Nothing? All of the other icons in a bigger size? Unavailable features greyed out?

The current setting selection makes sense on all supported devices. Toggles for 3G or LTE would need to be carrier dependent and as such, they'd need to design the UI so that it could cope with that.

That doesn't sound like something Apple would do to me.

I was hoping to see a personal hotspot toggle :D
That would be a great feature, but it suffers from the same problem as above - it's carrier and account-specific.
 

ikm19

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Give an option to put what ever you want to in those toggles.. I don't care for airplane mode, but it would be great option if i had option to turn LTE on or off.

Also camera application doesn't make sense while device is on lock screen, i can access camera from slide to unlock screen. I wish it had option to change those apps too.
 

apollo1444

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It's about how many possible configurations Apple has to support.

My carrier does not offer LTE or the 3G switch.

What would be shown on my phone? Nothing? All of the other icons in a bigger size? Unavailable features greyed out?

The current setting selection makes sense on all supported devices. Toggles for 3G or LTE would need to be carrier dependent and as such, they'd need to design the UI so that it could cope with that.
why should we get left out of a feature because your bloody carrier doesn't support those toggles? or at least it's carrier file? you are totally wrong, they can give you another option toggle like cellular data.


That doesn't sound like something Apple would do to me.


That would be a great feature, but it suffers from the same problem as above - it's carrier and account-specific.
it can be done theres no excuse, sure your carrier is weird and doesn't even have a 3G toggle, so be it they can leave that out and use a cellular data toggle or a bluetooth one, it's just some handful carriers who have weird configurations, I'm assuming your carrier doesn't have that because it doesn't have a 2G network to fall back, and most GSM carriers around the world do have it.

why don't you check on a GS 4 from your carrier? it probably doesn't have that toggle,but an international version does because it benefits people, so why can't apple do it?
 

Daveoc64

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why should we get left out of a feature because your bloody carrier doesn't support those toggles? or at least it's carrier file? you are totally wrong, they can give you another option toggle like cellular data.
You just don't get my point.

Apple doesn't like complexity.

The lack of toggles for these things is probably simply due to Apple not wanting people to have access to them rather than the reasons I've given, but there WOULD be barriers to putting the toggles in iOS.

From a development standpoint, this would be quite difficult to do right, both in terms of deciding what was shown at any given time and to then sort out the problem of different toggles being shown to different people.

The reality is that a lot of features were left out of iOS (and in many cases, still are) because the software was designed around AT&T's requirements in 2007 - my point being that Apple isn't afraid to sacrifice functionality to fit the lowest common denominator.
 
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Bathplug

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Just give us the option to choose & re arrange any toggle and app in control center. The settings menu for control center is looking empty.
 

dontpannic

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how about an LTE toggle that can allow me to do that instead of taking more steps to do it? almost everybody would prefer LTE over bluetooth

it was the most requested feature that auxo people and the nc settings developer got.
Well I'm in the 'almost nobody' who would prefer Bluetooth. I don't even have LTE and given its speed will just eat up data allowances I'd probably have it switched off until I actually needed it anyway, and in those circumstances a quick trip through the settings to turn it on is not a big problem.