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Agree!

I used an AW for two years daily, and about a year ago switched to a Gear S3. While the AW had many more apps available, what I found in the end was that most of that apps didn't really change my life since I had my phone with me anyway and the phone was a better experience. Like in the case of this one... if you are hailing a Lyft or Uber, you want to see the map, and monitor the arrival Often you also need to possibly determine where the best place is to be picked up if you are at an airport. None of this is going to be easy on a watch. So even though the AW works with Uber, I never once tried to call an Uber from my watch.

In fact, most of what I used my AW for, that was really having an impact on my daily life, was the apps that came on it. And when I moved to the Gear S3, I found those apps gave me a better experience than AW. So though I miss the bigger inventory of apps for the cool factor, I don't miss them for any impact on my daily life. I don't really see the value in an AW app for Lyft or Uber personally.

Actually, car sharing is probably one of the better uses for a wrist app. "Hey Siri, get me an Uber" ... then a notification pops up on your wrist as the car approaches, giving you the license plate and car model. That's the kind of information that works well on the wrist, rather than having to pull out your phone and look for the identifying info to find the car. Just look at your wrist and the info is right there.
 
I've never understood placing so many apps on the watch... it's a great medium for receiving quick information, not for data entry of any kind. I find Uber/Juno notifications come in quite easily without installing anything on the watch to inform me that the car is approaching, hell it even works beautifully for Postmates. In no case would I want to order food or a car from my wrist though as entering a non-preset destination just feels painful.

I'm on an LTE watch, and battery life has never been an issue, it'll go 2 days between charges in a pinch, but gets enough battery life during shower time where i've only once run low and that was due to a bug that was fixed long ago. From a usage standpoint, health/sleep tracking, receiving notifications (Skype, Slack, Mail, Messages, etc), and quick hits on the weather via the complication makes for an amazing experience.
 
I have a Series 3 watch, and the various apps are still slow to load, slow to update, etc... The platform needs to improve a lot more, and like others said, open up the watch faces to developers, as well as complications, etc...

I'm so tired of Apple controlling the look of our devices. I have to wait once a year to possibly be blessed by a few new watch faces from Apple. And they are useless. Since my Series 0 watch, i've been using the modular face because it allows the most information.
 
I had a Series 1 and now Series 3 and I never touch 3rd party apps, the entire UX is too cumbersome/slow/inefficient. For a watch ease of use, responsiveness needs to be paramount. It's no wonder people don't use these apps and developers are pulling them out of the app store.

To me Apple Watch right now feels like Blackberry, it's a 'smart' device, but people use 1-2 things out of the entire potential of the device's category because the UX is just too cumbersome so people just revert to the basics.
 
18hour/single day battery life sucks. For tracking sleep and health.

Yea my Garmin doesn't have a pretty LCD for looking at full color photos on a teensy weensy display (WTF why would I want this), but it actually works for health and athletics and has a 7-9day battery life.

?? I get about 48 hours on a single charge on my Apple Watch Series 3.

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Apple really needs to make WatchOS development more attractive. Opening up watch-faces to developers, and making complications more robust, would go a long way I think.

Yes just what we need, 500,000 watch-face apps on the App Store. And how would that address Lyft's concerns?
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18hour/single day battery life sucks. For tracking sleep and health.

Yea my Garmin doesn't have a pretty LCD for looking at full color photos on a teensy weensy display (WTF why would I want this), but it actually works for health and athletics and has a 7-9day battery life.

I wear mine 24/7 including 2-3 hour workouts every day and tracking sleep, and by the end of the day it's barely at 60%. 30 mins on the charger and it's good to go for another day.
 
Couldn't get the bloody thing to work on my watch anyway - just sat there and pulsed at me until I got board and deleted it.
 
Twitter, Instagram and now Lyft. One by one companies are abandoning Apple Watch. If something doesn’t change soon it will become a glorified fitness tracker.

Even when all of these apps were available, I still didn’t feel Apple Watch was good enough for me to stop wearing real watches. Genève has nothing to worry about! The quartz crisis was very real but smart watches can never replace the real thing.
 
I had a Series 1 and now Series 3 and I never touch 3rd party apps, the entire UX is too cumbersome/slow/inefficient. For a watch ease of use, responsiveness needs to be paramount. It's no wonder people don't use these apps and developers are pulling them out of the app store.

To me Apple Watch right now feels like Blackberry, it's a 'smart' device, but people use 1-2 things out of the entire potential of the device's category because the UX is just too cumbersome so people just revert to the basics.
It needs a few more generations of refinement before it gets there. It's the reason I haven't upgraded from Series 0. Its outrageously slow. But the Series 3 is slow. So what's the point ?
 
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It needs a few more generations of refinement before it gets there. It's the reason I haven't upgraded from Series 0. Its outrageously slow. But the Series 3 is slow. So what's the point ?

My Series 3 is pretty gosh darned nippy. Can't say I've ever noticed any performance issues in day to day use. You say you only have a series 0 - so how do you 'know' the series 3 is slow?

I also have a series 1 for sleep monitoring and there is a definite difference between the two.
 
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My Series 3 is pretty gosh darned nippy. Can't say I've ever noticed any performance issues in day to day use. You say you only have a series 0 - so how do you 'know' the series 3 is slow?

I also have a series 1 for sleep monitoring and there is a definite difference between the two.
My mom uses a Series 3. I tried using Uber and Apple Music on it. I found it much slower than whipping out my iPhone and controlling form there. With FaceID it's pretty much instant and results in the Watch feeling clunky. I am waiting for the next Apple Watch before upgrading as WatchOS 5 will slow down the existing Series 3.
 
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To me Apple Watch right now feels like Blackberry, it's a 'smart' device, but people use 1-2 things out of the entire potential of the device's category because the UX is just too cumbersome so people just revert to the basics.

This factoid is based on what? Is there any evidence to back this up or did you just make it up?
 
This factoid is based on what? Is there any evidence to back this up or did you just make it up?

Both personal experience and facts, this thread is one example of 3rd party apps exiting Apple Watch, because of low user demand/usage.
 
I never used the app on my AW, so this honestly doesn't come as a surprise. The iOS app sufficed for me.
 
PERSONAL USE CASE ONLY:

While the trend to remove watch apps is potentially disturbing, there is - in my opinion - a greater reality to the situation. A small screen on your wrist can be useful for many things, but the Watch just hasn't decided what to do when it grows up. Exercise apps? Yes! Music? Sure. Tracking time? Of course! But... shopping? Ordering a pizza? Tracking a package? Reading social posts? No... No... No... and No! This is just a market correction. That said, Lyft and Uber (and other ride-hailing services) do seem like a much better fit. Not sure if it's a great fit, but definitely in the grey area.
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Just curious. I never tried the eBay watch app. What, specifically, did it offer beyond notifications? Alternatively, what can you not do now that you could before?


No personal attack here, some people do actually have a need for the little things that personal electronics afford, such as “package tracking” or “weather updates”, etc. Not everyone has the ability to have their iPhone with them at all times, due to business settings, personal environment and so on. While I do have my own business, there are many occasions when pulling out your smartphone would not be possible so having the the Apple Watch that can monitor most apps from your wrist and let you know immediately is more than just a convenience for some. Personally, I do not use nor care about Facebook and Twitter updates, for me it is about heart-rate monitoring, medication and other reminders, doctor’s appointments, etc. but to others it may only be used for “fun stuff” that they could actually forgo until they retrieve that information on another device. Since I am partially disabled but still work full-time little things like the several apps on my Apple Watch are very important to me so so that my day can be safe, have peace of mind, relay knowledge of what is going on in my world like knowing when my prescriptions or other medical supplies have been delivered. When you have limited physical abilities it is nice to receive a notice that a package has arrived instead of having to check the porch many times over because the boxes may be pirated by others that would rather steal than go to work. These things are what allows me to live my life on my own terms and not needing to request assistance every single day for things that I can do on my own provided that I have a little help from devices like the Apple Watch, iPhone and iPad; they allow me to be me…

While I am not paralyzed, my physical limitations are great and having the Apple Watch to monitor things for me is a true asset; along with the ability to use my iPad instead of having to pullout the bigger & heavier MacBook Pro 15” which on some days is simply not possible.

IMHO, everyone really needs to remember that just because “something” is not considered to be beneficial or useful to them, doesn’t mean that it is utter trash and should be done away with solely because it didn’t prove to be as helpful or useful in the minds of some consumers/users. For me, several electronics & other products have become very important in my life as my health steadily declines with each passing year. I routinely have spinal surgeries every year that take considerable time to recuperate from, and the smaller more portable devices do genuinely make tasks a little easier for me to complete without help from others. So each day that I am okay & able enough to work, I run my business and use helpful products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, iPad and my MacBook Pro 15”. I am able to utilize my iPad the most to track very important things (to me) such as my medications (which I take about 20 pills daily); I am able to keep my prescription information, medical history documents, imaging scans, etc.

So while something as mundane as a watch app to some could be incredibly useful for someone else that may not be able to pullout their iPhone every single time that they need to do something; and remember that some users may live or travel to areas where being flashy with expensive electronics like an $800-$1,000 iPhone could be an open invitation to be mugged. Personally, I live and pay very high taxes for the home that I have, while the community as a whole appears beautiful on the outside, in reality has somewhat high numbers of thefts when it comes to expensive bags, phones, jewelry, etc. The Apple Watch allows you to be somewhat safer by not flashing your stuff around, but still permits you to access your smartphone and be productive & self-sufficient and not rely on others or setting yourself up as a victim, etc.

Again, I don’t mean to come across as rude… but some products are not only beneficial to some users but can be downright crucial for their existence and many can make the argument that products and services like a smartphone is worthless because they don’t go out much and still have a landline telephone that they can use, while others are mobile part of their day and are benefited by having smart-electronics at their disposal. I personally use the Apple Home services as well along with smart-outlets, etc so that I do not have to reach so much to turn lights on & off, while I would not die if I turned them on or off manually I do have less pain by not having to reach and bend so much and after many surgeries (and other physical limitations) performing everyday tasks can be quite the challenge for those of us living with disabilities.
 
Hopefully Apple has noticed this trend and is going to show off some good stuff on Monday to entice developers. So weird how the device itself is doing well but not the development. The form factor is just so constrained.
 
This suuuuuucks, I used this thing all the time - it was way more reliable than the Uber app (I could actually choose a pickup location rather than letting the app YOLO with my GPS location) and I would use it on my LTE watch without bringing my phone with me. Makes no sense, it didn’t even need an update it was working (mostly) fine.

God I hope Uber doesn’t follow suit, they are getting pretty much all of my business now...
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It's still blank?? I thought they would have fixed it by now. I want to use it on my watch face when I travel, but a blank complication is no good.
Can confirm still blank... I have a travel watch face too. The Lyft complication was fairly useless since it only updated every 10 minutes or so and they put the wait time on there. Just a logo is fine, I wish complications could update every time you raise your wrist or something.
 
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The focus of the next version of watchOS should be to rethink the way apps work on the Watch. Complex apps don't make a lot of sense on the wrist. Watch apps should work as one or more of these three categories:

1. An interactive Notification
2. A Complication
3. A Siri command.

I disagree for a lot of reasons, primarily because I’ve been a smart watch user since the MotoActv. The Apple Watch Series 3 isn’t even my first Cellular watch.

The idea that you have of a smart watch being a phone accessory is a case of extremely juvenile thinking. You’re right there with the people who were absolutely certain no one would want to carry a phone with them everywhere.

I don’t always want to take my phone everywhere. I’d rather not have to take my phone on a night out at the bar, or a day at the beach, or somewhere that phones aren’t allowed to be used, like the movies.

I would like more apps on my wrist that make sense for occasions where a phone isn’t really a necessity, or isn’t welcome.

The thought process shouldn’t be, “what can I just use my phone to do instead of my watch,” it should be, “what can I do on my wrist that I don’t need a phone to do?”
 
I disagree for a lot of reasons, primarily because I’ve been a smart watch user since the MotoActv. The Apple Watch Series 3 isn’t even my first Cellular watch.

The idea that you have of a smart watch being a phone accessory is a case of extremely juvenile thinking. You’re right there with the people who were absolutely certain no one would want to carry a phone with them everywhere.

I don’t always want to take my phone everywhere. I’d rather not have to take my phone on a night out at the bar, or a day at the beach, or somewhere that phones aren’t allowed to be used, like the movies.

I would like more apps on my wrist that make sense for occasions where a phone isn’t really a necessity, or isn’t welcome.

The thought process shouldn’t be, “what can I just use my phone to do instead of my watch,” it should be, “what can I do on my wrist that I don’t need a phone to do?”

If that’s what you took from this post, you have serious reading comprehension issues. That’s not at all what I said. In fact, I’ve been a proponent of the AppleWatch as a primary device since its announcement.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-watch-as-my-primary-device.2080307/

Calling me “juvenile” for a predetermined assumption you had going in and misunderstanding my post, has lost you the right to engage in a civil discussion.
 
With Lyft renting scooters now, it would be really handy if they brought back their Apple Watch app.
 
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