M.2 NVME SSD

[Roxy.music]

Is this guy right in what he says don,t buy anything less than 1tb? I understand that the bigger a drive is the faster it will be

I want a drive that can clone my drive.
in this review, the guy says it is not good for cloning?

What makes can clone a drive?
Samsung is too expensive

 

[Fishrrman]

I have a 500gb nvme drive in a USB3.1 gen2 enclosure, and get reads of 965MBps or so.
I think he's talkin' through his hat...!

 

[Stephen.R]

I haven’t watched the video but I gather from @Fishrrman’s comment that it’s claimed smaller m2’s are slow.

I also have a 512G m2 In a USB 3.1G2 case and it gets right around 900MB/s.

 

[Roxy.music]

I have a 500gb nvme drive in a USB3.1 gen2 enclosure, and get reads of 965MPps or so.
I think he's talkin' through his hat...!

I think your right there .it just shows you not to believe everything people say on there

 

[Roxy.music]

I haven’t watched the video but I gather from @Fishrrman’s comment that it’s claimed smaller m2’s are slow.

I also have a 512G m2 In a USB 3.1G2 case and it gets right around 900MB/s.

They do say that the higher the drive capacity the faster they are. I think I will get this one

512GB
modal with this SSK Aluminum M.2 NVME SSD.

 

[Stephen.R]

Being faster will only help if the case it’s in let’s you use that speed. I deliberately bought a mid-range m2 (still nvme but tops out around 1.1GB/S max theoretical speed) because the USB interface is a bottleneck anyway.

if you have a tb3 case or intend to use it in a Mac Pro via a PCIe card then obviously faster is better.

 

[Roxy.music]

Being faster will only help if the case it’s in let’s you use that speed. I deliberately bought a mid-range m2 (still nvme but tops out around 1.1GB/S max theoretical speed) because the USB interface is a bottleneck anyway.

if you have a tb3 case or intend to use it in a Mac Pro via a PCIe card then obviously faster is better.

I don,t have TH3 only a TH1 computer. I just saw this earlier on eBay, I asked the guy why he is charking £8.90
postage when the person says he hr says he is in London. When the price is in dollars? He got back yo me and said he would knock off 11%. This is it
Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 500 GB Internal SSD (MZ-V7S500B/AM)
Free next day delivery. 5 Years Warranty and 30 Days Re
Condition:
Opened – never used
“NEVER USED, TAKE A DECISION AN ORDER IT NOW, BEFORE THE OFFER EXPIRED.”
US $79.99
Approximately £64.75
Postage:
US $10.99 (approx. £8.90) Standard International Shipping | See details
I think he wants to sell me two

Offer price:

US $159.98 ( 2 x US $79.99 - 11% o

Item location:
London, United Kingdom Why put Dollars on when he says he is in the UK? Plus the fact he only joined eBay a couple of weeks ago?£73.65 seems a good price but the postage is steep. What do you think?
Amazon price £98.50 I think I will probably leave it and buy new, either the one I mention above or this one

 

[Stephen.R]

What do you think?

 

[pab1o]

Chiming in because I know a little bit about this.


1st guy TechDeals is pretty good. I haven't watched this video but I'm going to guess what he says and why it matters.

There are 2 factors when looking at SSDs. Price vs Performance and SSD design.
1) Back when SSDs were much cheaper, like Sep-Nov 2019 1TB NVME SSDs sold for ~$100. While 512GB were ~$60-70.

2TB NVME SSDs could be had for $200-220 with the Intel 660p sometimes going on sale for ~$180

1TB was really the sweet spot for NVME SSDs for price.

2) 1TB also happens to be the sweet spot for performance. Anything less, and you're not getting the most out of it.

See, an SSD has dyes and NAND packages where data is stored. Think of it like a buckets of water. On the logic board (PCB) of an SSD, the controller sends out data and fills these buckets of water.

As a cost saving measure the logic board, regardless of capacity, uses the same design. So on a 1TB if there are 8 routes or methods to fill these buckets and 4 NAND packages it's a fully saturated process.

But what happens if there's only 2 NAND packages (a 512GB SSD). Then you have only 4 routes available (but the other 4 are on the PCB). So if you have 100Mb to sent to the SSD it can only take 4 streets instead of 8. It's a bit slower. And this happens at lower capacities.


2nd video, did the guy use a Mac? I've used a Sabrent Rocket to Time Machine clone and replace a Macbook Air's SSD. No problems. Maybe what he's saying is a common problem in Windows based machines. The Acronis cloning program isn't as good as Samsung's Wizard, or whatever it's called.

 

[Roxy.music]

Chiming in because I know a little bit about this.


1st guy TechDeals is pretty good. I haven't watched this video but I'm going to guess what he says and why it matters.

There are 2 factors when looking at SSDs. Price vs Performance and SSD design.
1) Back when SSDs were much cheaper, like Sep-Nov 2019 1TB NVME SSDs sold for ~$100. While 512GB were ~$60-70.

2TB NVME SSDs could be had for $200-220 with the Intel 660p sometimes going on sale for ~$180

1TB was really the sweet spot for NVME SSDs for price.

2) 1TB also happens to be the sweet spot for performance. Anything less, and you're not getting the most out of it.

See, an SSD has dyes and NAND packages where data is stored. Think of it like a buckets of water. On the logic board (PCB) of an SSD, the controller sends out data and fills these buckets of water.

As a cost-saving measure the logic board, regardless of capacity, uses the same design. So on a 1TB if there are 8 routes or methods to fill these buckets and 4 NAND packages it's a fully saturated process.

But what happens if there are only 2 NAND packages (a 512GB SSD). Then you have only 4 routes available (but the other 4 are on the PCB). So if you have 100Mb to sent to the SSD it can only take 4 streets instead of 8. It's a bit slower. And this happens at lower capacities.


2nd video, did the guy use a Mac? I've used a Sabrent Rocket to Time Machine clone and replace a Macbook Air's SSD. No problems. Maybe what he's saying is a common problem in Windows-based machines. The Acronis cloning program isn't as good as Samsung's Wizard, or whatever it's called.

I get what you are saying all interesting stuff Pablo I am going for the budget I know i want get the most out of , them as I only have a Mac Mini 2012 along with the enclosure but i just want to try it out. When the price of the Mac Mini 2018 comes down in price I will get one of those, I think I will have to wait a long time for that to happen.
You were nearly tight there it is Magician.Highly recommended but problems cloning Sabrent Rocket so say people on Amazon and in this guys opinion here

 

[Roxy.music]

I went to collect my M2 Enclosure form an Amazon pick up shop, but the guy in the shop said they had stoped it back in January?

 

[Roxy.music]

I just ordered this from eBay they say it is new for 70 pound 1TB

[automerge]1585676844[/automerge] If this is new it is a bargain ay that price We all like bargains , I don,t like paying the full price for stuff.

 

[Roxy.music]

I did not receive it. I decided to check the pickup point shop but it was closed due to COVID 19. So I cancelled the order..I got this one from another site it was from another site cheaper than Amazon I received it last night.

the 512 version.I see that the tec guy on this post recommends it.

 

[Roxy.music]

Update on getting a refund for the 2m nvme SSD ,I had to get back to eBay about getting a refund, it was as I thought a scam by the seller no tracking number giving to eBay.

 

[POLJC]

I've been testing the TREBLEET Thunderbolt 3 SSD Enclosure with a Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD for two days now. I'm getting speeds of 2,350 MB/s Read/Write. I have a 2018 MacBook Pro with a 256 SSD, which only gives me about 1,325 MB/s. I am now booting off this enclosure and I can't believe the difference. It's night and day. It gets warm, but not hot.