Isn't that the same thing? Before, inefficient. After, more efficient. Ergo, less power consumed.
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M1 Mac Mini has dropped my electricity bill by almost 50%
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No, i did not make any state.
I was telling the community what happened when I changed my PC to a M1 Mac Mini.
I didn't bought the M1 to low my bill. I bought it to sell my PC hardware, since it's very expensive these days. For instance, my RTX2070 was sold by the exact price that I paid for the Mini.
I wasn't expecting any dropping in the bill. Actually I never considered that I should try to spend less electricity. I was ok with that. But the reduction was too high!
I don't know what I have done to let you think I was doing this to save money to get the Mini paid. I just didn't say that.
I switched mi PC to a M1 Mini and the bill dropped. I wasn't expecting that.
Well, The M1 Mini is a heck of a computer, it does handle my workload as the i9 energy hungry did.
That's the point here. The surprise about how much my Electricity Bill dropped.
Don't forget the generated heat from your PC which also leads to higher power consumption of your AC unit (unless you have old non-inverter AC).
(Thread Title) "M1 Mac Mini has dropped my electricity bill by almost 50%"
I'm happy for you that your bill went down but please don't say you didn't say something when you did. Enjoy.
Back when I was using a Hackintosh (i7-8700K + Radeon VII), my desktop set-up was drawing 97 watts in idle and on average 250 watts during video editing. This includes the Hackintosh and all peripherals (screen, sound system, USB devices).
Now with the M1 MacBook Pro I am drawing 50 watts in idle and around 70 watts on average during video editing while enjoying a mostly superior and in worst case slightly lower performance in my typical workloads.
So yes, energy savings are massive. Good for me, good for the environment. Switching has been worth it for this alone
Now with the M1 MacBook Pro I am drawing 50 watts in idle and around 70 watts on average during video editing while enjoying a mostly superior and in worst case slightly lower performance in my typical workloads.
So yes, energy savings are massive. Good for me, good for the environment. Switching has been worth it for this alone
Kind of, but not really. Just because one thing is really inefficient doesn't mean the other is really efficient.
E.g.: compared to 1, 10 is a much bigger number, but in the grand scheme of things 10 isn't a very big number.
What I'm saying is that he could have switched to just about any computer and noticed massive power savings because his original rig was very power-hungry. It helps that the M1 Macs are very power efficient, but there are definitely other computers out there operating in the same range or lower (although admittedly with obviously worse performance).
Well, I'm not a native but I know english very well.
M1 Mac Mini has dropped my electricity bill by almost 50% - This sentence is about what happened. It's in the past. It is about what I have witnessed.
If I was making a statement it will be some like this:
An Apple M1 MacMini can drop your bill by half!
Or
The Apple Silicon MacMini will drop your bill by half!
👍
Macrumors is flooded with people who just want to disagree for the sake of disagreement. As a native English speaker, I didn't see that in your statement at all. <shrug>.
People just love fighting too much these days - they've got nothing else worth doing I guess.
My water bill drop by 50% after switching to an iPad Pro 11 M1.
I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal over this. The OP posted an observation, asked if it was possible, and several of us agree that it is indeed possible.
Is there an opposing observation you'd like to make? Your disagreeing that the Mini reduced his electricity consumption by half isn't the same as saying it's impossible that the Mini reduced his electricity consumption by half, but it seems like that's the point you're trying to make.
Every positive article about the M1 is met by consternation from at least some people, who either can't grasp the idea of dropping their power-gobbling PC's with unused GPUs, or are upset that Apple has not yet released something pro-grade for Apple Silicon.
In some places consumption below certain threshold will land you on cheaper tariff/rate as well, as they reward lower household consumption.
Don’t know about Rio or Brazil in general but you might be saving even more if you get a better tariff/rate because you’re below, say 300 Kwh.
I live in Mexico (no AC needed in my location) and if you consume less than 100 Kwh per month which I often do, I get to pay as little as 4-5 USD bimonthly. Dirt cheap compared to other places.
The M1 Macs are the equivalent of renewing your 10-15 year old fridge with a very efficient, brand new one and watch your bill plumet.
Don’t know about Rio or Brazil in general but you might be saving even more if you get a better tariff/rate because you’re below, say 300 Kwh.
I live in Mexico (no AC needed in my location) and if you consume less than 100 Kwh per month which I often do, I get to pay as little as 4-5 USD bimonthly. Dirt cheap compared to other places.
The M1 Macs are the equivalent of renewing your 10-15 year old fridge with a very efficient, brand new one and watch your bill plumet.
I think that, as time goes, mankind is leading itself to nowhere. As an old proverb says, and George Harrison sang: If you don't know where you going, any road will get you there.
And it looks that mankind is speeding up its pace!
Great post!
I was used to run an app that shows the real usage of hardware. And back in my PC I noticed that the CPU usage was very high, while exporting a project. The CPU usage would reach 100% on all 16 cores (it was an i9 9900KS). GPU OpenGL usage would beat 100% While exporting too.
I couldn't do anything in the computer.
But
In MacMini I can surf the web and check MacRumors frequently while exporting. I'm not brave as I should be, but i think that it would be possible to launch Photoshop while the gray beast sitting in my desk exports a video.
Without providing consumption numbers and electric billsand rates, for the typical family that is a pipe dream.
If you and your spouse just live in a one bedroom apartment, have no AIr Conditioning, no electric heat, no washer and dryer, gas on demand hot water, gas cooktop, small fridge freezer, LED lighting, new LED TV and just one computer … then yeah, maybe your electric bill went from $30 to $15. No way you went from $150 to 75, $200 down to $100 or beyond.
Maybe you hit some low use threshold and now pay a lower rate too.
If you and your spouse just live in a one bedroom apartment, have no AIr Conditioning, no electric heat, no washer and dryer, gas on demand hot water, gas cooktop, small fridge freezer, LED lighting, new LED TV and just one computer … then yeah, maybe your electric bill went from $30 to $15. No way you went from $150 to 75, $200 down to $100 or beyond.
Maybe you hit some low use threshold and now pay a lower rate too.
But the chart shows consumption not the amount paid.
Exactly the same thing happened to me but with my water bill instead.
Equally plausible.
Equally plausible.
Don't worry. You replaced an old and outdated technology, eating up a lot of power and generating a ton oh heat with something modern, that works perfectly for you. In turn, the power consumption of your computer went down and requirements for air conditioning went down as well, resulting in further drop of power consumption.
I've seen this happen before, long before the M1 hit the market using different gear from multi-CPU/GPU workstations to "normal" rigs. And the M1 is bringing it to a new level, especially during summer with AC.
There are always a bunch of butthurt people and those using multiple and fake accounts to complain about anything, even when there's nothing to complain about. Don't feed the trolls. You get a machine that works for you and in return it in combination with AC savings, provides a nice drop in power consumption. Everything done right. 👍
Per month?!? I use around 4,800 kWh during peak summer months! My electric bill for July, August, and September is usually >$600.
Still it would be infinitely useful to everyone for you to share what the dollar savings was, which you bizarrely have still declined to do.
That's crazy, I think there's a substantial difference in consumption patterns and lifestyles between peoples, societies and individuals of course.
I share an apartment with my GF much like the OP, chill temperate climate year-round, maybe a bit cold on winter / hot on summer, think 80-85 fahrenheit high on summer 30-35 lows on winter, because my monthly consumption hovers around 100 kwh I get the maximum subsidy, which means I pay around 5 USD every two months for electricity.
We own a modern car and have I'd say a middle-class kind of lifestyle, I cannot possibly consume more than 300-400 Kwh even if I'd try to. I guess you have kids, and maybe own an electric vehicle. Our electric footprint (no offense intended, I say this respectfully) couldn't be more apart.
The other way to say this would be: “I wonder about the overall cost savings. Would you mind posting the amount you were charged in each month?”
That way you aren’t coming off as attacking and rude. The other way for me to say that would be: “There’s nothing bizarre about not sharing his total dollar savings, as that was not what his post was about, and I’m not entirely certain that anyone has actually asked him to do that.“
OP: Love hearing about, and seeing, the reduced energy consumption.