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I want to start this thread to hear from everyone who chose to go with the M1 Max 24-core version over the full 32-core, and what your 'real-world' experiences are with certain working scenarios in photo and video editing or graphics/design.

So no benchmark scores, but instead
--"how does it handle working in certain video/edit timelines, codecs, or perform under certain photo/graphics/design workloads.

Both 14/16" versions.

Please also state your Macbook Pro specs.


My MacBook Pro:
14-inch
M1 Max 24-Core GPU
64GB unified memory
2TB SSD

Here are a few of my own findings.

Using mostly for video work, I tested out FCPX, Premiere Pro (intel version under Rosetta2), and DavinciResolve 17

For instance in Premiere Pro (the least optimized of the bunch, and non-native using Rosetta2..)

Using Sony a7s3 footage
4k 120fps xavc-hs 10Bit 4.2.0

Which I put on 24p timeline (the 120fps slowed down to 25% speed, resulting in a 25sec clip)

I then had the same clip copied/stacked in layers, with every layer having 3 different lumetri grades.

Then each layer set with a delay of 3 sec after the one below.

At last, through a bit of resizing/repositioning the clip in each layer, I made sure every clip would be visible at all time from once the timeline Play-head would reach the beginning of each clip.
--This would cause that the CPU & GPU would have to continue to render/process in real-time each layer adding one more after the other each 3 seconds.


With the program-monitor running on 1/2 res, the result was an almost perfectly smooth playback, of.. 17 layers, with only a total of 9 fps dropped frames.. o_O

I knew the M1 Max was fast...but I definitely did not expect that!?

Then wanting to see how much power I would loose If I ever needed/wanted to edit on the road whilst using 'low-power' mode..

The result: 10 layers of this same timeline, ..without dropped frames.
That's really an amazing result!

Comparing that to my older 'windows'? laptop with i7-7820hk and gtx1070m and 32gb ram...
(in PPCC2018..an older version but still perfectly stable by the way)
--There I could playback maybe 2 of these layers with only a or two grades per layer.. and it would already push my CPU to a constant 87-100%..???

So this is a HUGE! improvement to what I was used to work on!


Next was another 'intense' piece of software named 'NeatVideo'

A Noise-Reduction (NR) software, that is very CPU & GPU intensive.
To me one of the top NR-software I use on a very regular basis working with many Night-time Nature/Wildlife footage.

Now this software has some optimization options in which it test out your HW to determine if it will use your CPU or GPU, or a combination of both for the best results (best results as in highest fps)

For the test I used the 1920x1080 res setting.

On my old gtx1070m (GPU alone) I would get around 17,4 fps..

The NeatVideo team had tested out the new M1 Pro and M1 Max silicon, but the Max only a maxed 16" version with 32-Core

Their results were:
M1 Pro:
CPU only 23 fps
GPU only 20 fps
CPU+GPU 32 fps

M1 Max (32-Core, 64GB unified memory.
CPU only 23 fps
GPU only 36 fps
CPU+GPU 35 fps

I had a chat with them to ask how the 24-core would perform.

They hadn't tested one yet, but doing a simple math they estimated its speed to be in proportion to the number of cores available.
If a 32-core GPU gives 36 fps, then it was expected
36 * 24/32 = 27 fps from a 24-core one.

Well that could be thrown out of the window, as my test result, (using their same exact test methods/settings) were.. surprising..

M1 Max (24-Core, 64GB unified memory.
CPU only 23 fps
CPU+GPU 33.2 fps
.. and GPU only.. 33,9 fps..?

That's only a 2 fps drop from 36 fps, ...with a 25% drop in GPU cores!...

I have bo idea how Apple pulled this of to see the 24-core perform this good, but i'll take it!?

These are the first of my real-world tests... (more is definitely to follow?)

(Maybe some Neatvideo users willing to share there MacBook M1 Pro/Max 14"/16" configuration fps test results?)



Lets share some tests with numbers, in real-world Video/Photo/Graphics/ Design software usage
Would love to see!

--and in the meantime help out those who are still deciding if the 24-core configuration option is the way to go?
 
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I want to start this thread to hear from everyone who chose to go with the M1 Max 24-core version over the full 32-core, and what your 'real-world' experiences are with certain working scenarios in photo and video editing or graphics/design.

So no benchmark scores, but instead
--"how does it handle working in certain video/edit timelines, codecs, or perform under certain photo/graphics/design workloads.

Both 14/16" versions.

Please also state your Macbook Pro specs.


My MacBook Pro:
14-inch
M1 Max 24-Core GPU
64GB unified memory
2TB SSD

Here are a few of my own findings.

Using mostly for video work, I tested out FCPX, Premiere Pro (intel version under Rosetta2), and DavinciResolve 17

For instance in Premiere Pro (the least optimized of the bunch, and non-native using Rosetta2..)

Using Sony a7s3 footage
4k 120fps xavc-hs 10Bit 4.2.0

Which I put on 24p timeline (the 120fps slowed down to 25% speed, resulting in a 25sec clip)

I then had the same clip copied/stacked in layers, with every layer having 3 different lumetri grades.

Then each layer set with a delay of 3 sec after the one below.

At last, through a bit of resizing/repositioning the clip in each layer, I made sure every clip would be visible at all time from once the timeline Play-head would reach the beginning of each clip.
--This would cause that the CPU & GPU would have to continue to render/process in real-time each layer adding one more after the other each 3 seconds.


With the program-monitor running on 1/2 res, the result was an almost perfectly smooth playback, of.. 17 layers, with only a total of 9 fps dropped frames.. o_O

I knew the M1 Max was fast...but I definitely did not expect that!?

Then wanting to see how much power I would loose If I ever needed/wanted to edit on the road whilst using 'low-power' mode..

The result: 10 layers of this same timeline, ..without dropped frames.
That's really an amazing result!

Comparing that to my older 'windows'? laptop with i7-7820hk and gtx1070m and 32gb ram...
(in PPCC2018..an older version but still perfectly stable by the way)
--There I could playback maybe 2 of these layers with only a or two grades per layer.. and it would already push my CPU to a constant 87-100%..???

So this is a HUGE! improvement to what I was used to work on!


Next was another 'intense' piece of software named 'NeatVideo'

A Noise-Reduction (NR) software, that is very CPU & GPU intensive.
To me one of the top NR-software I use on a very regular basis working with many Night-time Nature/Wildlife footage.

Now this software has some optimization options in which it test out your HW to determine if it will use your CPU or GPU, or a combination of both for the best results (best results as in highest fps)

For the test I used the 1920x1080 res setting.

On my old gtx1070m (GPU alone) I would get around 17,4 fps..

The NeatVideo team had tested out the new M1 Pro and M1 Max silicon, but the Max only a maxed 16" version with 32-Core

Their results were:
M1 Pro:
CPU only 23 fps
GPU only 20 fps
CPU+GPU 32 fps

M1 Max (32-Core, 64GB unified memory.
CPU only 23 fps
GPU only 36 fps
CPU+GPU 35 fps

I had a chat with them to ask how the 24-core would perform.

They hadn't tested one yet, but doing a simple math they estimated its speed to be in proportion to the number of cores available.
If a 32-core GPU gives 36 fps, then it was expected
36 * 24/32 = 27 fps from a 24-core one.

Well that could be thrown out of the window, as my test result, (using their same exact test methods/settings) were.. surprising..

M1 Max (24-Core, 64GB unified memory.
CPU only 23 fps
CPU+GPU 33.2 fps
.. and GPU only.. 33,9 fps..?

That's only a 2 fps drop from 36 fps, ...with a 25% drop in GPU cores!...

I have bo idea how Apple pulled this of to see the 24-core perform this good, but i'll take it!?

These are the first of my real-world tests... (more is definitely to follow?)

(Maybe some Neatvideo users willing to share there MacBook M1 Pro/Max 14"/16" configuration fps test results?)



Lets share some tests with numbers, in real-world Video/Photo/Graphics/ Design software usage
Would love to see!

--and in the meantime help out those who are still deciding if the 24-core configuration option is the way to go?
You're making me feel good about deciding to get the 24-core M1 Max (in a 14" MBP) :)

I had seen a few videos showing that the difference between the 32-core and 24-core GPUs was often minimal, especially in the 14" MBP, which seems to throttle the 32-core GPU clock (lower than the MBP16), to the point where there is often hardly any difference, or even so the 24-core version performs better than the 32-core.
 
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I want to start this thread to hear from everyone who chose to go with the M1 Max 24-core version over the full 32-core, and what your 'real-world' experiences are with certain working scenarios in photo and video editing or graphics/design.

So no benchmark scores, but instead
--"how does it handle working in certain video/edit timelines, codecs, or perform under certain photo/graphics/design workloads.

Both 14/16" versions.

Please also state your Macbook Pro specs.


My MacBook Pro:
14-inch
M1 Max 24-Core GPU
64GB unified memory
2TB SSD

Here are a few of my own findings.

Using mostly for video work, I tested out FCPX, Premiere Pro (intel version under Rosetta2), and DavinciResolve 17

For instance in Premiere Pro (the least optimized of the bunch, and non-native using Rosetta2..)

Using Sony a7s3 footage
4k 120fps xavc-hs 10Bit 4.2.0

Which I put on 24p timeline (the 120fps slowed down to 25% speed, resulting in a 25sec clip)

I then had the same clip copied/stacked in layers, with every layer having 3 different lumetri grades.

Then each layer set with a delay of 3 sec after the one below.

At last, through a bit of resizing/repositioning the clip in each layer, I made sure every clip would be visible at all time from once the timeline Play-head would reach the beginning of each clip.
--This would cause that the CPU & GPU would have to continue to render/process in real-time each layer adding one more after the other each 3 seconds.


With the program-monitor running on 1/2 res, the result was an almost perfectly smooth playback, of.. 17 layers, with only a total of 9 fps dropped frames.. o_O

I knew the M1 Max was fast...but I definitely did not expect that!?

Then wanting to see how much power I would loose If I ever needed/wanted to edit on the road whilst using 'low-power' mode..

The result: 10 layers of this same timeline, ..without dropped frames.
That's really an amazing result!

Comparing that to my older 'windows'? laptop with i7-7820hk and gtx1070m and 32gb ram...
(in PPCC2018..an older version but still perfectly stable by the way)
--There I could playback maybe 2 of these layers with only a or two grades per layer.. and it would already push my CPU to a constant 87-100%..???

So this is a HUGE! improvement to what I was used to work on!


Next was another 'intense' piece of software named 'NeatVideo'

A Noise-Reduction (NR) software, that is very CPU & GPU intensive.
To me one of the top NR-software I use on a very regular basis working with many Night-time Nature/Wildlife footage.

Now this software has some optimization options in which it test out your HW to determine if it will use your CPU or GPU, or a combination of both for the best results (best results as in highest fps)

For the test I used the 1920x1080 res setting.

On my old gtx1070m (GPU alone) I would get around 17,4 fps..

The NeatVideo team had tested out the new M1 Pro and M1 Max silicon, but the Max only a maxed 16" version with 32-Core

Their results were:
M1 Pro:
CPU only 23 fps
GPU only 20 fps
CPU+GPU 32 fps

M1 Max (32-Core, 64GB unified memory.
CPU only 23 fps
GPU only 36 fps
CPU+GPU 35 fps

I had a chat with them to ask how the 24-core would perform.

They hadn't tested one yet, but doing a simple math they estimated its speed to be in proportion to the number of cores available.
If a 32-core GPU gives 36 fps, then it was expected
36 * 24/32 = 27 fps from a 24-core one.

Well that could be thrown out of the window, as my test result, (using their same exact test methods/settings) were.. surprising..

M1 Max (24-Core, 64GB unified memory.
CPU only 23 fps
CPU+GPU 33.2 fps
.. and GPU only.. 33,9 fps..?

That's only a 2 fps drop from 36 fps, ...with a 25% drop in GPU cores!...

I have bo idea how Apple pulled this of to see the 24-core perform this good, but i'll take it!?

These are the first of my real-world tests... (more is definitely to follow?)

(Maybe some Neatvideo users willing to share there MacBook M1 Pro/Max 14"/16" configuration fps test results?)



Lets share some tests with numbers, in real-world Video/Photo/Graphics/ Design software usage
Would love to see!

--and in the meantime help out those who are still deciding if the 24-core configuration option is the way to go?
There was an Apple MacBook Pro version 16 only (M1 Max 10C CPU, 32C GPU, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD). Sold in exactly one month. Too weak and slow for my tasks. I don’t want to mess with M1 anymore.
Collected the assembly. The sky and the earth in comparison with M1))) And I have no regrets.
intel i9 12900KF -5.2GHz
DDR5- 128Gb
Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME
2x RTX3090
4TB SSD m2 (Windows 11 and software)
HDD- 400TB
 
There was an Apple MacBook Pro version 16 only (M1 Max 10C CPU, 32C GPU, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD). Sold in exactly one month. Too weak and slow for my tasks. I don’t want to mess with M1 anymore.
Collected the assembly. The sky and the earth in comparison with M1))) And I have no regrets.
intel i9 12900KF -5.2GHz
DDR5- 128Gb
Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME
2x RTX3090
4TB SSD m2 (Windows 11 and software)
HDD- 400TB
I don’t know if you expected any laptop to keep up with a 128 gig, dual rtx 3090, desktop or not, but if you did I’m not sure what you were expecting…
 
i'm mobile developer, i have a macbook pro m1 pro 14" with 8core, and works perfect.

i'm works with flavors in android studio (11 flavors) i can change build variant in 5 seconds, my friend's laptops gamers(asus, lenovo i7 10ma) change bulld variant in 3 minutes
 
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3090 Founders Edition is still $1500 from Best Buy but they usually sell out fast when they drop every few weeks. Curious what workload he's using that utilizes two of them. Guessing rendering or maybe machine learning. With dual 3090, BMW render takes 2 secs vs 43 secs on M1 Max 32GPU.

 
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3090 Founders Edition is still $1500 from Best Buy but they usually sell out fast when they drop every few weeks. Curious what workload he's using that utilizes two of them. Guessing rendering or maybe machine learning. With dual 3090, BMW render takes 2 secs vs 43 secs on M1 Max 32GPU.

If you need it, then $6000 is probably no big deal. But comparing that to a 45W notebook doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
I don’t know if you expected any laptop to keep up with a 128 gig, dual rtx 3090, desktop or not, but if you did I’m not sure what you were expecting…
Simulation and building, rendering in real time. Building models in very high resolution with textures (the minimum resolution for the project is 35K in width). The Mac M1 Max runs it with a miscalculation for a whole night, the timing is about 8 hours, plus it heats up like a frying pan, and intel copes with two video cards in about 2 hours. The performance gain is more than doubled. I didn't chase the form factor. A laptop or desktop PC is essential to perform its functions.
 
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Simulation and building, rendering in real time. Building models in very high resolution with textures (the minimum resolution for the project is 35K in width). The Mac M1 Max runs it with a miscalculation for a whole night, the timing is about 8 hours, plus it heats up like a frying pan, and intel copes with two video cards in about 2 hours. The performance gain is more than doubled. I didn't chase the form factor. A laptop or desktop PC is essential to perform its functions.
I’m not sure the point you’re trying to make, because if you’re disappointed that the M1 Max didn’t keep up with your build, then I think you had misplaced expectations.
 
I’m not sure the point you’re trying to make, because if you’re disappointed that the M1 Max didn’t keep up with your build, then I think you had misplaced expectations.
It was hyped for me at my work, like a miracle device with the performance of almost a Mac Pro in 2019, which copes with all tasks and does everything phenomenally quickly. Even some videos on You Tube showed where he puts both Intel and AMD on the spatulas in some tasks, including video processing. I bought it. I worked with him. He worked, or rather, created a violent imitation of it, suspected that something was amiss, time began to take more time at work than expected. I successfully sold it without regret and bought myself a desktop computer.
 
Moreover, the first acquaintance with this device was wonderful. A colleague started video editing on his new M1Max, where the new car does all this easily and quickly, as in the example of a live demonstration of its capabilities, without brakes, friezes and spontaneous errors in the form of crashes. However, I ran into the complete opposite of demanding maximum performance from it, which completely disappointed me.
 
There was an Apple MacBook Pro version 16 only (M1 Max 10C CPU, 32C GPU, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD). Sold in exactly one month. Too weak and slow for my tasks. I don’t want to mess with M1 anymore.
Collected the assembly. The sky and the earth in comparison with M1))) And I have no regrets.
intel i9 12900KF -5.2GHz
DDR5- 128Gb
Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME
2x RTX3090
4TB SSD m2 (Windows 11 and software)
HDD- 400TB
And you actually own such a machine? How much did it cost?

I Don't know what you mean by "sold in exactly one month" - did you own a fully-specced MBP16 for a month and then sell it? You are writing in the third-person passive tense rather than the first-person, so it's hard to understand whether this is your personal experience.

400 Terabytes of HDD? That sounds....unlikely.....

In any case, while you could in theory own such a machine, it's a large desktop system and it would cost considerably more than a max-spec MBP16, so you are really not comparing like-for-like.

What kind of workloads are you running that require such a machine?
 
Okay ssooo my thoughts were on experiences from MacBook Pro 14"/16" 24-core M1 Max..

Yet now I'm seeing a long thread of posts about a BIG intel/nVidia monster-machine..

Yeah I get it.. it's nothing comparable to the m1 Max MacBook Pro.
--I totally understand, and you've definitely made your point that it can do something the M1 Max definitely can't do...
For you that is definitely the better choice/option.
????

But now that you made your point,
Please lets focus on the point of this thread..?

Real-world User experiences with the 14/16" 24-Core M1 Max.

I would like to read about that!
 
And you actually own such a machine? How much did it cost?

I Don't know what you mean by "sold in exactly one month" - did you own a fully-specced MBP16 for a month and then sell it? You are writing in the third-person passive tense rather than the first-person, so it's hard to understand whether this is your personal experience.

400 Terabytes of HDD? That sounds....unlikely.....

In any case, while you could in theory own such a machine, it's a large desktop system and it would cost considerably more than a max-spec MBP16, so you are really not comparing like-for-like.

What kind of workloads are you running that require such a machine?
$ 21,000. Would you like an account statement? Why are you interested?
Yes, I owned it for exactly one month and sold it.
Why is 400Tb unlikely? Before that, I already had 200Tb (10 HDD disks of 20Tb each). These disks were bought even before the mining epidemic. Then, when the storage was nearly full, I bought another 10 HDD disks.
Total: 20HDD disks with a capacity of 20Tb each. Personal storage connected to a computer.
For what tasks? Carefully read my post number 9 in this thread. :)
 
$ 21,000. Would you like an account statement? Why are you interested?
Yes, I owned it for exactly one month and sold it.
Why is 400Tb unlikely? Before that, I already had 200Tb (10 HDD disks of 20Tb each). These disks were bought even before the mining epidemic. Then, when the storage was nearly full, I bought another 10 HDD disks.
Total: 20HDD disks with a capacity of 20Tb each. Personal storage connected to a computer.
For what tasks? Carefully read my post number 9 in this thread. :)
Thanks; it sounds like you have a very specific intensive workload that probably uses specialised software.

What applications do you use for your simulation and building? It this CAD or some scientific modelling? Is the software native for Apple Silicon or running via Rosetta 2?

I thought 400TB to be unlikely because AFAIK you can't yet fit that capacity inside any normal PC tower case (20 x 20TB HDDs). I presume you have some external drive enclosure or RAID array. Or maybe you are using a rack-mounted server.

It sounds like you were sold an unrealistic dream about the capabilities of the M1 Max. It's good for specific tasks (e.g. video editing with Final Cut Pro)...but it's not going to compete with massive specialist desktop systems that cost almost 4 times as much.

What was your motivation for buying a laptop for your work? Do you need to be mobile, or just wanted to save space (and your electricity bill :) )?

As with all things in computing, you need to use the right tool for the job, and it sounds like you are happy with your new desktop system - it sounds like a beast of a machine!
 
Thanks; it sounds like you have a very specific intensive workload that probably uses specialised software.

What applications do you use for your simulation and building? It this CAD or some scientific modelling? Is the software native for Apple Silicon or running via Rosetta 2?

I thought 400TB to be unlikely because AFAIK you can't yet fit that capacity inside any normal PC tower case (20 x 20TB HDDs). I presume you have some external drive enclosure or RAID array. Or maybe you are using a rack-mounted server.

It sounds like you were sold an unrealistic dream about the capabilities of the M1 Max. It's good for specific tasks (e.g. video editing with Final Cut Pro)...but it's not going to compete with massive specialist desktop systems that cost almost 4 times as much.

What was your motivation for buying a laptop for your work? Do you need to be mobile, or just wanted to save space (and your electricity bill :) )?

As with all things in computing, you need to use the right tool for the job, and it sounds like you are happy with your new desktop system - it sounds like a beast of a machine!
I use a bunch of applications and a bunch of plugins that load both CPU and GPU very well. Basically, these are Maxon cinema 4D, Sidefx Houdini, the Adobe package, 3DS Max (windows, before that it had to be launched using Parallels on old machines using dances with a tambourine), a world machine for building models.
Personal server + a huge box near the table and a bunch of wires and colored lights.
Perhaps dreams have been sold. And it happens.
No, there was just a lot of space on the table, which takes up a couple of huge monitors, a keyboard, a mouse, a tablet, speakers, as well as the computer itself with a voltage stabilizer. Having bought a laptop, for the first time I saw how much space on the table was freed up and that everything could be put and laid out nearby - from papers to a teapot and you could safely hold meetings at the table :) I did not consider mobility. I already got used to taking a system unit and a server with me from home to work every day - I loaded it into the trunk of my car and on the road. Rather, I regarded it as an all-in-one device. But I was wrong. I don’t think about electricity, but like the whole office, electricity is on all the time.
Yes, this is a working tool that suits me completely, including custom water cooling, which, as it turned out, is very inconvenient to clean from accumulated dust))) No, this is not a beast machine, this is a king machine :)
 
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There was an Apple MacBook Pro version 16 only (M1 Max 10C CPU, 32C GPU, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD). Sold in exactly one month. Too weak and slow for my tasks. I don’t want to mess with M1 anymore.
Collected the assembly. The sky and the earth in comparison with M1))) And I have no regrets.
intel i9 12900KF -5.2GHz
DDR5- 128Gb
Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME
2x RTX3090
4TB SSD m2 (Windows 11 and software)
HDD- 400TB
Really?? Why do people keep saying such complete nonsense??

First of all I don't know how you compared a desktop with Alderlake i9 and 3090 since you can't even buy them yet?? At least not on New Egg. You can get a CyberPowerPC with 3080 i9 12900K and 16gb ram for almost $3k.

The specs you are suggesting would be much more expensive.

Whenever they release the new desktop Mac would be a better comparison to your suggested setup.

It just seems you want to complain for the sake of complaining. Enjoy Scalderlake but why comment on a Mac forum when your post is questionable as best as being truly legit and if you are then I apologize.
 
To get this thread back on topic instead of comparing desktop PC to a laptop which the thread has NOTHING to do with Scalderlake!!

It is supposed to be about performance of a MBP 16 or 14" with M1 Max and 24 gpu cores-not Alderlake!!

Intel on Mac is DEAD so these comparisons make no sense as a Mac user you are not going to be using Intel going forward so how Intel performs on a PC is relevant but not really that important.

I just got my machine with M1 Max, 32GB ram, 512 GB ssd 16" and I have not yet done anything too GPU intensive yet. I have played some games and ran some stress tests and benchmarks and at least on Benchmarks the GPU scales pretty linearly but I imagine anything optimized for Apple silicon is going to perform better than any benchmark can tell us.

So far this machine doing light video editing while several tabs open and listening to music barely breaks a sweat.

Personally I think the M1 Max with 32gb Ram and 24 Core GPU is the sweet spot. A larger ssd would have been nice but I can use an external hard drive with thunderbolt 4 for super large files. I think the maxed out versions of the MBP are really only for special cases.
 
Good flex, I must admit. :)

I guess the point is that the M1 Max was hyped up to be much more than it is. (Shocking, I know.)
Actually Apple did not overhype M1 Max. If anything they undersold it. While Intel is hyping up Alderlake without the real world performance to back it up.

Again what is the point of comparing Alderlake to M1 when Alderlake or any Intel CPU afterwards will not be in a Mac for the foreseeable future? Also this thread has NOTHING to do with Intel at all!! Stop it!
 

Technerd108

Why can't I buy? The stores have everything, including video cards, hard drives and brand new DDR5 memory modules, and their choice is huge - for every taste, color and wallet. Go to the store and buy, you can't buy in the store because of laziness, you can order via the Internet, deliver everything along with food.

You can get CyberPowerPC with a 3080 i9 12900K and 16GB of RAM for almost $ 3,000. I am not a tester to collect such an assembly and compare them head-on in all tasks in a row, including benchmarks with virtual parrots. Do you want tests? No problem, send me your laptop, I'll do a bunch of tests. I assembled a computer for my tasks and parameters.
Whenever they release a new desktop Mac, it will be the best comparison to your suggested setup. Where are you pulling this nonsense? Where do you find it? It is foolish to compare processors of different generations with the same clock speed. Besides, why buy a laptop for the long term if it is impossible to change anything in it and build it up if necessary? And where is a better Mac now? Can you buy Ram memory? No, but a video card? And again no! And hard drives - fast or slow - cheap or expensive - no!
It just seems like you want to complain for the sake of a complaint. Enjoy Scalderlake, but why comment on the Mac forum if your post is questionable as well as indeed legitimate, and if so, then I apologize.
Where did you see the complaint? Quote me! No chewing snot. Only tough and true in its purest form about the M1 Max.
 
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Uhh…. Nice to know, but why did you choose this particular thread to hijack?
I shared my experience. And even if it is not successful, but this is also an experience :) This is a forum. Or is it usual to say exclusively positive facts about the products that the company has released? I don’t like it. I will not hide it.
 
Why can't I buy? The stores have everything, including video cards, hard drives and brand new DDR5 memory modules, and their choice is huge - for every taste, color and wallet. Go to the store and buy, you can't buy in the store because of laziness, you can order via the Internet, deliver everything along with food.

You can get CyberPowerPC with a 3080 i9 12900K and 16GB of RAM for almost $ 3,000. I am not a tester to collect such an assembly and compare them head-on in all tasks in a row, including benchmarks with virtual parrots. Do you want tests? No problem, send me your laptop, I'll do a bunch of tests. I assembled a computer for my tasks and parameters.
Whenever they release a new desktop Mac, it will be the best comparison to your suggested setup. Where are you pulling this nonsense? Where do you find it? It is foolish to compare processors of different generations with the same clock speed. Besides, why buy a laptop for the long term if it is impossible to change anything in it and build it up if necessary? And where is a better Mac now? Can you buy Ram memory? No, but a video card? And again no! And hard drives - fast or slow - cheap or expensive - no!
It just seems like you want to complain for the sake of a complaint. Enjoy Scalderlake, but why comment on the Mac forum if your post is questionable as well as indeed legitimate, and if so, then I apologize.
Where did you see the complaint? Quote me! No chewing snot. Only tough and true in its purest form about the M1 Max.
This is not about you or what you can buy but personal experiences with a MBP 14" or 16" with M1 Max and 24 Core GPU. What are you adding to the conversation since all you have said is M1 is not powerful enough and then posted a bunch of desktop specs.

I am sorry but if you just want to argue that you are better then fine! Your Scalderlake Desktop is the king of Windows desktops-enjoy and get off a Mac forum!

500watt Scalderlake without dedicated gpu beats 100 watt M1 max with gpu???

If there is a moderator could they remove the posts that have nothing to do with the thread? You can get rid of all of mine. To the OP I am sorry it seems this thread is going sideways.
 
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