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ok here goes.. received my MBP Max 32gb and I opened up photoshop and opened up 50/70 images (18 mp each ) into separate windows I then clicked on various ones with the trackpad.. half of them were jerky and laggy as hell in trying to pinch zoom using the trackpad 2 finger pinch zoom. Some worked well but half were bad. My Intel MBP i9 with 64gb has NO problems at all! I also had the 14 Max 64gb a few weeks ago and don't recall any problems with that. I no longer have that machine so I can't compare now. ALSO I noticed when I very first turned this 16 max machine on the trackpad would not work with more than one finger, I restarted and it worked fine...Also sometimes I clicked on one of those photos and photoshop disappears into hiding mode and bridge pops up!! Weird. Do I have a trackpad problem AND is the photoshop problem to do with just having 32GB?? Please help. Will I have to send it back and reorder the 64gb Max! Does opening many windows in photoshop really need that 64gb!??
 
LOL, with any Adobe product, more RAM is always better.

Why did you send the 64GB back? Didn't fall for the SoC is a miracle chip and can do anything even with the minimal amount of RAM line did you?
 
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The Adobe product is likely not optimized for Apple Silicon. In addition, Adobe software has never been well designed in terms of RAM usage.
 
I absolutely loved my 14 max 64 2tb and for some dumb reason I sent it back like a wally!! Truth is I have decided to go just laptop only and as the only display the 14 makes no sense so I got the 16 max 32gb 1tb assuming that would be fine! I miss the little 14 inch one like crazy! Its just a laptop but I have been obsessing over this way way way too much! Also had the XDR display Nano which I recently sold as part of minimising my setup.. Now I am thinking of getting the XDR display back but in glossy/standard this time and getting another 14 max 64! makes sense. I also loved the XDR 32 inch display but the nano wasn't great for text. So glossy should be way better ?
 
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2 month wait for my 14 max 64 now though! and also one month wait for an XDR display!!
 
32GB isn't minimal RAM. Your machine is probably indexing and such in the background, and sounds like it could also have a memory leak. Check Activity Monitor to see what the memory looks like, and what's using it.

If your trackpad doesn't work as expected, try deselecting settings you don't plan to use.
 
Hi, I checked the activity monitor when I had all the images open and it was still in the green and only using around 20gb.
 
did you confirm you have the right version downloaded? i linked above in post 5.
 
2 month wait for my 14 max 64 now though! and also one month wait for an XDR display!!
I think that’s the model that stores stock occasionally. It’s jus like my 16” M1 max 32gb, picked it up a few days after launch. You can go to the App Store app, put in the config you want and it should say see details or something and it will show no stores in stock. Check there at 10am and straight the early afternoon as stores update their stock. It’s the 14” M1 max 64gb 2tb. If it’s a model they carry it will say “check another store” in blue.
 
The Adobe product is likely not optimized for Apple Silicon.
It is and has been for the past few months. The OP has to specify the version they use.

If it’s not the latest one - this might be why (if they’re running an older version or the Intel one). If it is the latest one - again could be the reason.

It’s impossible to give advice without having more information. It might also be a Monterey-related issue.


Also keep in mind that PS 2022 was released less than a month ago and, as a major release, it might contain a higher volume of bugs. I can’t share much, but there is an update with a change log that lists lots of bug fixes (few pages long) that is in the works.
 
while PS has had a M version for quite some time, make sure that you are indeed running it. Also, there were 2 new versions of both LR and PS released this week, PS is now 23.01
 
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did you confirm you have the right version downloaded? i linked above in post 5.
Hi, I have erase and reset all now ready to go back :-( Assuming Box.com take it! I would of assumed that the right version would of downloaded? I downloaded Lightroom, bridge and photoshop and yes it did make me download rosetta first.
 
I think that’s the model that stores stock occasionally. It’s jus like my 16” M1 max 32gb, picked it up a few days after launch. You can go to the App Store app, put in the config you want and it should say see details or something and it will show no stores in stock. Check there at 10am and straight the early afternoon as stores update their stock. It’s the 14” M1 max 64gb 2tb. If it’s a model they carry it will say “check another store” in blue.
Thanks, yes I always watch for them :) Nothing with Max for a long time though :-(
 
Hi, I have erase and reset all now ready to go back :-( Assuming Box.com take it! I would of assumed that the right version would of downloaded? I downloaded Lightroom, bridge and photoshop and yes it did make me download rosetta first.
the installer is still the intel version, hence rosetta ... as for apple silicon, I seem o recall some dialog box but can't remember, but you can go to about this Mac, system report, software, applications and look it up
 
ok here goes.. received my MBP Max 32gb and I opened up photoshop and opened up 50/70 images (18 mp each ) into separate windows I then clicked on various ones with the trackpad.. half of them were jerky and laggy as hell in trying to pinch zoom using the trackpad 2 finger pinch zoom.

I open this many of more images often and didn't see any problem but then I use a professional tablet and keyboard.

Trackpad zoom is more GPU intensive because you're zooming with very small increments at 60fps. You already have 70 images open taking up UMA.

So there's no point doing that. Use Command +/- like most people would. It's a lot faster and you will be zoomed in well enough.

Remember on your last machine the images had dedicated GPU VRAM. You now have a shared pool of memory so you have to work efficiently instead of using resources inefficiently.

The stuff you are doing, I could do easily with 16GB memory.
 
The Adobe product is likely not optimized for Apple Silicon. In addition, Adobe software has never been well designed in terms of RAM usage.

It's very optimised now. But users have to optimise themselves too. People forget the human side of using a computer.
 
I open this many of more images often and didn't see any problem but then I use a professional tablet and keyboard.

Trackpad zoom is more GPU intensive because you're zooming with very small increments at 60fps. You already have 70 images open taking up UMA.

So there's no point doing that. Use Command +/- like most people would. It's a lot faster and you will be zoomed in well enough.

Remember on your last machine the images had dedicated GPU VRAM. You now have a shared pool of memory so you have to work efficiently instead of using resources inefficiently.

The stuff you are doing, I could do easily with 16GB memory.
Thanks for your reply :) Yes the +/- seemed to work instantly. I just assumed that this laptop has double the graphics speed so would be amazing!
 
So do I need the 64gb?
With your use case, I would go with 64GB if it was me. If you don't need it now, you will appreciate it in a few years when your picture becomes larger in size.

There is way too many RAM Police on this forum. Not sure what is up with them.

You can check this video for a performance comparison between 32 and 64
 
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