Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple blatantly promotes this new M2 13" Pro as "1.4x" faster than the M1 version of the same product but doesn't disclose that the base configuration does not deliver "1.4x" more and is in fact markedly slower than the base configuration of the 256GB M1 13" Pro on many metrics.

In other words, Apple is straight up lying on the M2 13" Pro product page.

And no, it's not just a matter of them omitting a tiny footnote about a spec that doesn't impact performance significantly -The 256GB M2 13" Pro does not come close to delivering "1.4x" on the metrics that are listed on the product page because of the much slower SSDs.

Apple is lying about the performance and consumers need to know before buying.

In a nutshell.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Menneisyys2
My truth is that quite frankly Im hurt, and I would accept no less than a nice DM from someone there at Apple Retail for a 50% off voucher for the midnight M2 Air to lessen the imminent blow with that one too. Please and thank you.
if u would followed media and macrumors u would have read that a few months ago a Factory Producing Nand Chips for SSDs etc had a huge contermination. Why the Macbook M2 has Only half the Speed is the result of not enough Chips being available to have the freedom to freely put a lot of them in every computer. Maybe do some research before blasting at a company why they doing such
 
Maybe but the 512GB and up M2s don't apparently exhibit this slow SSD issue.
yes because the 512 GB Uses 2x 256GB so it can store on faster speed. Recent MacBooks used to have for 512GB A pair of them so it had double band-with. however with the shortage of NANDS its not possible to do it like that
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: Menneisyys2
Apple blatantly promotes this new M2 13" Pro as "1.4x" faster than the M1 version of the same product but doesn't disclose that the base configuration does not deliver "1.4x" more and is in fact markedly slower than the base configuration of the 256GB M1 13" Pro on many metrics.

i don't have their exact blurb at hand, but i'd be surprised if it wasn't more like their usual wishy washy, say nothing at all
"up to x times fast than..." often followed by some "... compared to *insert something completely undefined*"

so they didn't promote anything at all and their lawyers are happy, since even 10 times slower falls into "up to x times faster"
 
  • Like
Reactions: Menneisyys2
The Surface Pro 1 (which I bought) in 2013 had a 64GB SSD and I remember the outcry about this at the time. At least it had an SD card slot and the SSD was technically upgradable if you could get it open.

2022, iPad's still rocking 64GB with no expandability. It's deplorable.

I bought the 256 gb model.

10 years on, I can’t say not having expandable storage has ever been an issue for my iPhone or iPad.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ConvertedToMac
anxiety-panic.gif

Apple, as they watch the similarly nerfed base M2 Air's coming off the production line....
 
Since it has been confirmed that the 512GB models have two 256GB SSD chips and are delivering the expected high performance, the two most-likely options are:
  1. Apple cannot get 128GB SSDs in sufficient quantity so they are using one 256GB SSD because they can get supply of those (you can see the empty second SSD location on the systemboard pictures);
  2. Apple can get 128GB SSDs, but their purchase volume on 256GB SSDs means they are similar in price or cheaper than 2x128GB so they are using a single 256GB SSD to save money.
I believe that the rest of the industry has moved away from 128GB to higher capacities. But Apple (and Microsoft) still wants to continue to fleece its loyal userbase by not moving in tandem. Thats the reason I guess why 128 GB RAM modules are hard to come by. Apple should have set the standard and offered everyone minimum of 512GB (2 x 256GB NAND modules). There will not be another RAMGATE because Apple has no choice but to stop buying 128GB RAM modules. So its too bad if you want to buy the base model....just expect lower transfer speeds. Oh and please expect the same issues with the shiny new Macbook Air base model.
 
it is a bummer, still fast but slower 256GB speed is quite sad but I understand that today with chip crisis the move to use only one NAND in base model. Many users who will order MacBook Pro 13" M2 will buy 512GB versione imho.
Of course the issue will be talked here for months even if it is not game changer to who wants a MBP 13" instead of other models.
 
  • Love
Reactions: turbineseaplane
Apple blatantly promotes this new M2 13" Pro as "1.4x" faster than the M1 version of the same product but doesn't disclose that the base configuration does not deliver "1.4x" more and is in fact markedly slower than the base configuration of the 256GB M1 13" Pro on many metrics.

In other words, Apple is straight up lying on the M2 13" Pro product page.

And no, it's not just a matter of them omitting a tiny footnote about a spec that doesn't impact performance significantly -The 256GB M2 13" Pro does not come close to delivering "1.4x" on the metrics that are listed on the product page because of the much slower SSDs.

Apple is lying about the performance and consumers need to know before buying.
Actually you are lying if you insist that Apple is lying. You might want to check apple.com and calm down. Otherwise I guess you just have some hidden agenda.
 
Am I right that we currently don’t know whether the M2 Air will be slower as well?

I have a M1 Air currently and would like to upgrade to M2 Air. But not if it’s slower :-(
 
Am I right that we currently don’t know whether the M2 Air will be slower as well?

I have a M1 Air currently and would like to upgrade to M2 Air. But not if it’s slower :-(
Expect the same reduced performance for the 256GB model due to Apple using just one chip. This issue doesn’t exist on 512GB model or higher since both NAND slots are utilized. So if you have to upgrade, get at least 512GB storage model.
 
Who is buying this thing anyway?! It’s a serious mystery as to why it even exists. You have to NEED a machine now or something. Either wait for the air or get a Pro on sale that’s 10x better anyway.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BornAgainMac
Instead of acting like some middle school kid who thinks they will be popular for pointing out someone else's failures, maybe consider that Apple has been killing SSDs in their other laptops by running them too fast. Maybe they slowed down the SSD because of heat buildup?

Not that I'm a fan of Apple selling phone call making pinball machines with consumer operating systems that have no place in the work environment. Toys.
False. The slowdowns don’t exist on models with 512GB SSD or higher because both NAND slots are occupied. This is purely due to Apple only using one single chip for the 256GB model, thus half of the storage performance compared to models with 512GB or higher or early M1 models.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MajorFubar
Whether or not this actually contributes to the speed difference is just a theory at this point, lacking any other information. Wait and see if Apple has any software update to address it. Can't evaluate it at all until you know the software isn't getting in the way.
Yeah! Apple will probably resolve it through a software update that halves the performance of the M1 MBP too. They are very good at throttling performance through software updates, when it suits them.
 
Maxtech.. another Clickbait iDIOT in the youtuber community who gets 90% of his views by video titles like ‘’ M9 IS COMING AND HERE IS HOW WE KNOW ! ‘’.. no thanks.
On their "rumor" videos, yes, they mostly talked about nothing.
But their tests videos are quite informative. And in this one, they did show the tests. It's not just they made stuff up. They actually did the test, and as such it's not a clickbait.

Better than that RR guy who went straight defending Apple.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FindingAvalon
Yeah! Apple will probably resolve it through a software update that halves the performance of the M1 MBP too. They are very good at throttling performance through software updates, when it suits them.
Don't give them ideas.
Something like this did happen, eg when iPhones have Qualcomm modem and intel modem. Apple intentionally slowed down the Qualcomm modem performance so it matched intel's. But they did this right off the gate, out of the box.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Beautyspin
I bought the 256 gb model.

10 years on, I can’t say not having expandable storage has ever been an issue for my iPhone or iPad.
Are you sure it was the Surface Pro 1? It only came in 64GB and 128GB versions.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.