Yep, we said the same thing.Yes, anyone buying a machine other than a base M2 MBA should take a long, hard look at the 14" MBP, both new and especially 'used.' There's a very good chance of getting a lot more computer for a little more money.
Yep, we said the same thing.Yes, anyone buying a machine other than a base M2 MBA should take a long, hard look at the 14" MBP, both new and especially 'used.' There's a very good chance of getting a lot more computer for a little more money.
Yes, anyone buying a machine other than a base M2 MBA should take a long, hard look at the 14" MBP, both new and especially 'used.' There's a very good chance of getting a lot more computer for a little more money.
Apple biggest mistakes is raising the price of the base model $200 over the M1, then having the balls to charge another $200 for a measly 8GB of RAM (worth about $15) and another $200 for an extra 256GB SSD (again, probably a $15 chip). Anyone who wonders why Apple's profits are so high only need to look at what they charge for upgrades from a (mostly unexciting) base model.Wow. Seriously, Apple. Maybe they think their customers aren’t into specs and just want the latest and greatest and will overlook this. If you aren’t getting the base MBA (for price), then the 14 Pro is definitely a better bargain.
I suppose you mean 256GB of SSD storage (not RAM) and I agree 100%. I have not touched an M2 Air, but I have a MBP 14, and it's pretty thin and light already. I can't understand spending more, getting less, just for thin.I’ll gladly give up some performance to have the thinnest and lightest machine possible, but paying $300 more for an extra 256GB of RAM in 2022 is highway robbery (yes you get 2 extra GPU cores too but they also could just include this and not make it so confusing). It’s the base or nothing for me, but 256GB is so anemic. I really don’t want the weight/thickness of the 14”, not to mention ports I will likely hardly ever use.
It is kind of absurd isn't it. The 14" is vastly more powerful in some scenarios and... ports, Mini LED, fans, etc for $200 more for a similar spec storage wise. However some people just want a small laptop. Like a really small one, that's the point of the airWow. Seriously, Apple. Maybe they think their customers aren’t into specs and just want the latest and greatest and will overlook this. If you aren’t getting the base MBA (for price), then the 14 Pro is definitely a better bargain.
Especially now the the MBA M1 versions are seeing discounts as well and still being made. Retailers have to figure out how sell current MBA M1 stock so a new discounted $850 M1 vs $1200 M2…and the wedge design actually feels thinner to people from a psychological standpoint.I suppose you mean 256GB of SSD storage (not RAM) and I agree 100%. I have not touched an M2 Air, but I have a MBP 14, and it's pretty thin and light already. I can't understand spending more, getting less, just for thin.
Especially now the the MBA M1 versions are seeing discounts as well and still being made. Retailers have to figure out how sell current MBA M1 stock so a new discounted $850 M1 vs $1200 M2…and the wedge design actually feels thinner to people from a psychological standpoint.
Such a weird move from Apple to keep both MBA in the lineup especially if MBA owners truly value price before above all else.
You know you can’t just say something is wrong and everyone agrees right? If you’re buying your first MB or are a college kid money matters to you. If you’re just looking for a laptop to browse the web I’m sure money matters as well. If you value a thin design the two are debatable.This is wrong. For some reason, this train of reasoning is progressing in this thread. Everyone knows it's just justification of your choice, which is fine, but obvious
Then again, discussion is good.![]()
There are definitely many folks who will choose the MBA for the form factor, regardless of the price compared to a MBP. But buyers who wouldn’t mind the added bulk should probably take a look at their options.I’ll gladly give up some performance to have the thinnest and lightest machine possible, but paying $300 more for an extra 256GB of RAM in 2022 is highway robbery (yes you get 2 extra GPU cores too but they also could just include this and not make it so confusing). It’s the base or nothing for me, but 256GB is so anemic. I really don’t want the weight/thickness of the 14”, not to mention ports I will likely hardly ever use.
You know you can’t just say something is wrong and everyone agrees right? If you’re buying your first MB or are a college kid money matters to you. If you’re just looking for a laptop to browse the web I’m sure money matters as well. If you value a thin design the two a debatable.
The MBA at its core is about portability and price so which one does those two better than the other? Answer, MBA M1.
And I can't understand spending more on power, screen and speakers that I don't need and extra weight that I don't want, all the while getting less storage, which is something that I really do need.I suppose you mean 256GB of SSD storage (not RAM) and I agree 100%. I have not touched an M2 Air, but I have a MBP 14, and it's pretty thin and light already. I can't understand spending more, getting less, just for thin.
To me it looks like the iPad's bezels are at least twice as thick.I'm not an opponent of the Apple notch by any means, but since the bezels on these laptops seem broadly similar to those of the iPad Pro, is it really necessary or is it a deliberate design decision? I guess the laptop lids are probably thinner than iPad, but even so...🤔
To me it looks like the iPad's bezels are at least twice as thick.
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Ordered a 16/512 last week the moment the pre-orders opened.I reserved a 16/1TB in Midnight for collection first thing this morning. I suspect there's not many per store, but they were out there, so hopefully there will be a drip-feed of them to stores day on day as often happens with these things.
Or, hear me out… maybe Apple knows that some customers don’t want to compromise on a computer that’s 30% or so thicker and around a pound heavier.Wow. Seriously, Apple. Maybe they think their customers aren’t into specs and just want the latest and greatest and will overlook this. If you aren’t getting the base MBA (for price), then the 14 Pro is definitely a better bargain.
It’s the SIZE.Wow. Seriously, Apple. Maybe they think their customers aren’t into specs and just want the latest and greatest and will overlook this. If you aren’t getting the base MBA (for price), then the 14 Pro is definitely a better bargain.
It took a few years for people to finally stop talking about the lack of headphone jack. It took a few years for people to finally stop talking about the lack of removable batteries or memory. It took a few years for people to finally stop talking about not being able to jailbreak their iPhones.This picture makes the notch look ridiculous!
Or, hear me out… maybe Apple knows that some customers don’t want to compromise on a computer that’s 30% or so thicker and around a pound heavier.
Also once the deals for the new MacBook Air kick in like they have for the 14 inch, I don’t think that price is going to be as compelling.
Sure, right now on launch day when there are no deals and you have to pay Apple‘s full pricing, The MacBook Air is only $200 cheaper. It doesn’t look like a good deal.
But keep in mind that MacBook pro. You’re looking at is already discounted by $200, because it’s been on the market for 8+ months.
Once BestBuy and Amazon put discounts on the MacBook Air by $200 or so Probably around the holiday season, Is it going to be that small of a jump?
What’s $1599 now might be $1399 come Christmas.
A $400 jump is a lot harder to stomach than a $200 jump
That too.Well to be fair, anyone can get education pricing, so the difference is already $370. I say $370 because if you go the education pricing route, you get the $150 gift card. $1479 M2 Air 16GB/512GB vs $1849 M1 14“ Pro 16GB/512GB
I think you forgot to deduct the $150 gift card on the 14”. Which would make the 14” $1,699. Or am I missing something? (In education store)Well to be fair, anyone can get education pricing, so the difference is already $370. I say $370 because if you go the education pricing route, you get the $150 gift card. $1479 M2 Air 16GB/512GB vs $1849 M1 14“ Pro 16GB/512GB
then having the balls to charge another $200 for a measly 8GB of RAM (worth about $15) and another $200 for an extra 256GB SSD
Because they like big bezels and they cannot lie.It took a few years for people to finally stop talking about the lack of headphone jack. It took a few years for people to finally stop talking about the lack of removable batteries or memory. It took a few years for people to finally stop talking about not being able to jailbreak their iPhones.
How come it took me only 3 minutes to stop noticing the notch (much less talking about it) but you're still talking about it 5 years after it was introduced?
Here's what's really silly...
16/512 - Air M2 8CPU/8GPU - $1599
16/512 - 13 Pro M2 8CPU/10GPU - $1699
16/512 - 14 Pro M1 Pro 8CPU/14GPU - $1799
So much better tech in the 14 Pro, not to mention up to 6 more GPU cores, better display, more ports, etc.
EDIT: It should be said the $1799 price for the MBP 14 M1 is when it is (frequently) on sale at Amazon, BestBuy, Adorama, etc., or I believe the Apple Refurbished are that price. MSRP is $1999.
I'd agree they are overpriced. However, Apple know they can charge that amount even if they are in MBP territory because people are willing to pay for the portability of the Air. I have a 16" MBP and an M1 MBA and I love them equally but the Air is just great for chucking it about, grab it and go, whether that be around the house or on the move. It's such a great device and I really wish they kept the prices in line for the M2 models as I really like the design.Wow. Seriously, Apple. Maybe they think their customers aren’t into specs and just want the latest and greatest and will overlook this. If you aren’t getting the base MBA (for price), then the 14 Pro is definitely a better bargain.