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Dwalls90

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I had the bottom chassis of my M2 MBA repaired by Apple under AC+ because my dog accidentally damaged a corner of it. They sent it back and the Touch ID/Power button didn't sit flush, so I brought it to the Genius Bar, and they sent it back to the depot that performed the initial repair. Now I feel like an idiot because after 2 repairs it's obvious Apple clearly must have misunderstood the issue as the TouchID/Power button still does not sit flush. If I look at the button closely, the left side sits lower than the right, and the left side has feedback when pressed down, whereas the right side feels stuck.

Has anyone had a similar issue either from a new MBA or a repaired unit? I almost feel like I'm going crazy as I'm not sure how this was missed in a final quality check before being mailed out to me. It must be something minor, but since that button is used so frequently, it was immediately noticeable to me during normal usage.
 
I think the issue is that you are looking at your Mac as it should be if it were new and Apple is looking at it from a functional perspective.

Does the Touch ID work? Will the cosmetic issue affect performance or lead to a failure? That is all they are concerned with not making it look new.

I am sorry for your issue it would bother me too. Unfortunately you are going to have to talk to Apple again and I would put a post it note next to the Touch ID button and include a note about the issue otherwise they will probably continue to send it back in the same condition.

Good luck!
 
Went back to Apple and they agree it doesn’t function as intended so they’re going to attempt repair again. They said they’ve seen similar issues with other repairs, so probably something to keep on eye on if others have repairs.
 
It's not you, it's Apple. You are not going crazy. And don't let other users tell you that you have the wrong expectations or anything like that -- as if it is somehow your fault. The truth is that Apple's build quality, service quality, and retail quality have drastically decreased in recent years, and they often dismiss issues saying it's "within acceptable tolerance." Good service would be if they are more bothered by imperfections than you are. You are fortunate that the people you talked to admit the problem and was willing to try again. Let's hope you get the result you want this time.
 
I had the bottom chassis of my M2 MBA repaired by Apple under AC+ because my dog accidentally damaged a corner of it. They sent it back and the Touch ID/Power button didn't sit flush, so I brought it to the Genius Bar, and they sent it back to the depot that performed the initial repair. Now I feel like an idiot because after 2 repairs it's obvious Apple clearly must have misunderstood the issue as the TouchID/Power button still does not sit flush. If I look at the button closely, the left side sits lower than the right, and the left side has feedback when pressed down, whereas the right side feels stuck.

Has anyone had a similar issue either from a new MBA or a repaired unit? I almost feel like I'm going crazy as I'm not sure how this was missed in a final quality check before being mailed out to me. It must be something minor, but since that button is used so frequently, it was immediately noticeable to me during normal usage.
When you sent in your M2, did you wipe it and/or did they ask you for your password?

Just curious about the procedural and security side of things.
 
Also, my iPhone's battery started swelling the same day I went back into the Store. During the battery replacement process, Apple scratched the metal framing. I was livid and asked them to replace the damaged framing. It took going through 2 levels of management before they admitted "We use picks, which are typically metal, to separate the screen from the device. We probably scratched it so it's our fault." Prior to that, it was, "Well it was probably damaged by you before you brought it in". I asked to see the notes, because I know they're required to document any existing damage with pictures and notes, and was told, "We can't share that information with you". Some poor repair operations they're running lately...
 
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Update... received MacBook back again. Touch ID button works, but they MASSIVELY scratched the rear top and bottom chassis... unbelievable
 
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Update... received MacBook back again. Touch ID button works, but they MASSIVELY scratched the rear top and bottom chassis... unbelievable
Oh crap, that's terrible! Did you notice it whilst picking it up or back at home?
 
It was mailed to me so when I opened it. Unbelievable.
Ohh man, I'm sorry to hear that. You mentioned the protocol of your IP repair showing no damage prior to the repair. Does one get this also when sending the device in? Obviously asking if there's documentation that it was unmarked. So gutting.
 
Update... received MacBook back again. Touch ID button works, but they MASSIVELY scratched the rear top and bottom chassis... unbelievable
Take a lot of good pictures. Do you have any pictures of the laptop before you sent it in for repair?

Call Apple. Tell them what happened. Ask for a supervisor. I would nicely explain the situation. I would say I don't trust repairs at this point because something else might be damaged when you get the device back and you are tired of sender it back for repair. I would ask for a replacement. I don't know if lemon laws apply. If they give you grief I would mention the BBB and that you could dispute the original charge with your bank.


I am sorry this happened. Really disappointing. I hope Apple does the right thing for you .
 
Ohh man, I'm sorry to hear that. You mentioned the protocol of your IP repair showing no damage prior to the repair. Does one get this also when sending the device in? Obviously asking if there's documentation that it was unmarked. So gutting.
Yes there was, and I had photos.
 
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Take a lot of good pictures. Do you have any pictures of the laptop before you sent it in for repair?

Call Apple. Tell them what happened. Ask for a supervisor. I would nicely explain the situation. I would say I don't trust repairs at this point because something else might be damaged when you get the device back and you are tired of sender it back for repair. I would ask for a replacement. I don't know if lemon laws apply. If they give you grief I would mention the BBB and that you could dispute the original charge with your bank.


I am sorry this happened. Really disappointing. I hope Apple does the right thing for you .
Get this. I called AppleCare and was immediately escalated to a supervisor. The guy was a total asshat and completely useless. He said unless there was something non-functional with the laptop (keyboard, monitor, etc.), then they couldn't repair it. This was after I had to explain that Apple failed to properly repair AND damaged the device multiple times. I could only laugh because the original reason I sent the device in for repair was due to accidental damage, so it's pretty concerning someone unfamiliar with Apple's own service offerings is a "supervisor". He was also arrogant and completely lacked empathy.

As a result, I just went to my local Apple store without an appointment and a manager helped me out. Unfortunately, they have to send it out to the repair depot AGAIN. The ENTIRE chassis has to be replaced. If it's not immaculate when I receive it back, I'm asking for a replacement device and full refund. I will have been without a computer for almost a month by the time I get it back next week, and who knows if it will be fine after a 4th attempt. Given how it was physically damaged, are the internal components okay? Who knows.

I do plan to pull out all the stops if it's not perfect when I get it back again. File a complaint with the BBB, notify the AG, try to dispute with my credit card, and go the executive concierge route of emailing Tim Cook.
 
Get this. I called AppleCare and was immediately escalated to a supervisor. The guy was a total asshat and completely useless. He said unless there was something non-functional with the laptop (keyboard, monitor, etc.), then they couldn't repair it. This was after I had to explain that Apple failed to properly repair AND damaged the device multiple times. I could only laugh because the original reason I sent the device in for repair was due to accidental damage, so it's pretty concerning someone unfamiliar with Apple's own service offerings is a "supervisor". He was also arrogant and completely lacked empathy.

As a result, I just went to my local Apple store without an appointment and a manager helped me out. Unfortunately, they have to send it out to the repair depot AGAIN. The ENTIRE chassis has to be replaced. If it's not immaculate when I receive it back, I'm asking for a replacement device and full refund. I will have been without a computer for almost a month by the time I get it back next week, and who knows if it will be fine after a 4th attempt. Given how it was physically damaged, are the internal components okay? Who knows.

I do plan to pull out all the stops if it's not perfect when I get it back again. File a complaint with the BBB, notify the AG, try to dispute with my credit card, and go the executive concierge route of emailing Tim Cook.

Wow, what happened to Apple's great customer service?

Honestly I think with all the repairs and cost of labor here in the USA, shipping costs and so on it would have been cheaper for Apple to simply replace your laptop and sell yours as refurbished?

I would have stated that to the employee and added your wasted time. Macs are great but if Apple is unwilling to acknowledge that through their negligence that they are wasting your time and causing undue hardship and stress through no fault of your own by the multiple repairs and time without your Mac that they are hurting their chances of you buying another Mac.

Do you have Apple Care? It always amazes me how they tend to treat customers differently based on Apple Care.

It is because they feel they don't have competition and once you are past your return window they feel that they can do whatever they want. But APPLE should realize if you don't treat your customers right they can use alternatives and some of us will do it if you push us too far.

Do you have the supervisor name and or employee number? Might want to report his behavior. If he can't have the fortitude to understand why they should replace or at least repair damage they caused he really shouldn't be in that position. Apple may incentivize him to deny claims but it is like shooting yourself in the foot. The small cost of making a customer happy when your business has made several mistakes is a lot cheaper than losing repeat business. I don't know why they don't understand this?

This doesn't fill me with confidence that Apple will repair a device properly or care about concerns if they make a mistake in the repair process. What is the point of a warranty or paying for Apple Care if they can't repair your device properly.

I had an HP notebook and the motherboard failed just after the 1 year Warranty was up. HP at first tried to make me pay for a repair. I escalated the situation to a supervisor and in the end they repaired my laptop and sent me a loaner while I waited. When I got it back it was exactly like I sent it in. Not a scratch anywhere. And it worked. So if HP can do it surely Apple with their trillions can too. I was so happy with HP after that. That is what customer service should be. While I had to fight for it, ultimately they took care of me. I tell my friends that story and recommend HP because of it.

If Apple was smart they would want their customers to have a story similar to mine because it is free advertising, increases the customer loyalty and gives other potential customers confidence in the brand.

I fully agree with you in terms of not backing down and if they don't resolve the problem correctly to continue to serk redress. Don't let Apple get away with screwing you over because they try to wear you out.
 
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Wow, what happened to Apple's great customer service?

Honestly I think with all the repairs and cost of labor here in the USA, shipping costs and so on it would have been cheaper for Apple to simply replace your laptop and sell yours as refurbished? Agreed

I would have stated that to the employee and added your wasted time. Macs are great but if Apple is unwilling to acknowledge that through their negligence that they are wasting your time and causing undue hardship and stress through no fault of your own by the multiple repairs and time without your Mac that they are hurting their chances of you buying another Mac.

Do you have Apple Care? It always amazes me how they tend to treat customers differently based on Apple Care. Yes, I have AppleCare

It is because they feel they don't have competition and once you are past your return window they feel that they can do whatever they want. But APPLE should realize if you don't treat your customers right they can use alternatives and some of us will do it if you push us too far.

Do you have the supervisor name and or employee number? Might want to report his behavior. If he can't have the fortitude to understand why they should replace or at least repair damage they caused he really shouldn't be in that position. Apple may incentivize him to deny claims but it is like shooting yourself in the foot. The small cost of making a customer happy when your business has made several mistakes is a lot cheaper than losing repeat business. I don't know why they don't understand this? Yep! I have his name.

This doesn't fill me with confidence that Apple will repair a device properly or care about concerns if they make a mistake in the repair process. What is the point of a warranty or paying for Apple Care if they can't repair your device properly. I totally agree and I'm now very concerned about purchasing future Apple products.

I had an HP notebook and the motherboard failed just after the 1 year Warranty was up. HP at first tried to make me pay for a repair. I escalated the situation to a supervisor and in the end they repaired my laptop and sent me a loaner while I waited. When I got it back it was exactly like I sent it in. Not a scratch anywhere. And it worked. So if HP can do it surely Apple with their trillions can too. I was so happy with HP after that. That is what customer service should be. While I had to fight for it, ultimately they took care of me. I tell my friends that story and recommend HP because of it. I said this to the store rep about a similar story that Ihad experience, and he looked at me like I was an idiot. Perhaps all Apple employees are also now operating under the guise that Apple is the best just because?

If Apple was smart they would want their customers to have a story similar to mine because it is free advertising, increases the customer loyalty and gives other potential customers confidence in the brand.

I fully agree with you in terms of not backing down and if they don't resolve the problem correctly to continue to serk redress. Don't let Apple get away with screwing you over because they try to wear you out.
I forgot to reply to your post... see responses above, also a not so great update below.

After a FOURTH repair, the bottom chassis was STILL scuffed. I had this repair sent back to the store so they could inspect it prior to me spending more unnecessarily wasted time on commuting to/from the location. Of course the store didn't notice the scuffing. I guess no one at Apple pays attention to quality anymore?

After I noticed the damage in person, I raised it to the manager. He agreed it was unacceptable and went to get a replacement product. Okay, great, some consolation after not having a laptop for a month and having wasted several hours dealing with Apple on this issue. Halfway through the exchange, while he had the replacement product in hand, he let's me know that the system won't let him exchange it "even with an override". Uhhh, so you told me you were able to and going to exchange the defective product, and now can't? He says his hands are tied and that I should expect a call within 24 hours. So here I am again, without a computer and no clue as to what next steps are.

I'm really fed up with Apple.
 
I forgot to reply to your post... see responses above, also a not so great update below.

After a FOURTH repair, the bottom chassis was STILL scuffed. I had this repair sent back to the store so they could inspect it prior to me spending more unnecessarily wasted time on commuting to/from the location. Of course the store didn't notice the scuffing. I guess no one at Apple pays attention to quality anymore?

After I noticed the damage in person, I raised it to the manager. He agreed it was unacceptable and went to get a replacement product. Okay, great, some consolation after not having a laptop for a month and having wasted several hours dealing with Apple on this issue. Halfway through the exchange, while he had the replacement product in hand, he let's me know that the system won't let him exchange it "even with an override". Uhhh, so you told me you were able to and going to exchange the defective product, and now can't? He says his hands are tied and that I should expect a call within 24 hours. So here I am again, without a computer and no clue as to what next steps are.

I'm really fed up with Apple.
Wow.. really sorry to hear how this has all gone for you so far. I had the very opposite experience with apple when. I had some initial quality complaints. Even got a free mouse and MagSafe charger out of the deal for the inconvenience. Sorry to hear you seem to be getting such the opposite experience in all of this
 
Wow, that is terrible. That is awful customer service. After several rounds of repair, I got a free upgrade from a 2012 to a 2013 retina 15 MacBook pro. I don’t see why they couldn’t do that for you.
 
I forgot to reply to your post... see responses above, also a not so great update below.

After a FOURTH repair, the bottom chassis was STILL scuffed. I had this repair sent back to the store so they could inspect it prior to me spending more unnecessarily wasted time on commuting to/from the location. Of course the store didn't notice the scuffing. I guess no one at Apple pays attention to quality anymore?

After I noticed the damage in person, I raised it to the manager. He agreed it was unacceptable and went to get a replacement product. Okay, great, some consolation after not having a laptop for a month and having wasted several hours dealing with Apple on this issue. Halfway through the exchange, while he had the replacement product in hand, he let's me know that the system won't let him exchange it "even with an override". Uhhh, so you told me you were able to and going to exchange the defective product, and now can't? He says his hands are tied and that I should expect a call within 24 hours. So here I am again, without a computer and no clue as to what next steps are.

I'm really fed up with Apple.

I am sorry to hear about this. I wonder if Apple has a presence on Facebook? Maybe you could raise the issue there?

The only reason I suggest this is because sometimes when a company is not doing the best job with customer service behind closed doors so to speak they operate differently than when they know that there is a possible audience to their treatment of you.

I have been trying to unlock my iPhone for over three weeks now and the past week and a half I have called daily and spent over an hour each time getting nowhere. I went on Facebook and spoke to representative there and now supposedly by Thursday it will be unlocked. I am not totally convinced but it was a huge change from the service I received daily on the phone with T mobile.

Whatever you do try to escalate to a supervisor. Most of the regular employees will give you the run around or an option that only helps Apple and not you.

Did you get the name of the individual that tried to give you the exchange? Might be helpful when talking to Apple.

I really don't understand these companies? Do they not understand what good will is? Sure there are some people that take advantage of warranties and things like that but clearly you are not one of them. You even had an Apple employee agree about the damage to your laptop.

I also recently ordered a Lenovo laptop from Lenovo and when I got it, it had a defective track pad. I wanted a replacement because they had a sale and the unit I got was at a considerable discount. Long story short I was on the phone with multiple reps and supervisor who said they would send a replacement and told me my request had been approved to later get an email saying that they did not have a replacement. This happened 3 times. I check on the website and they have a model exactly like mine except it had half the size ssd. I said I was willing to take that instead and they wouldn't do it.

I don't know what is going on with a lot of companies these days. It is like they just don't care. They seem to fail to realize that customers remember bad experiences and tell other people about them so not only do they potentially lose that customer but every customer that person shares their experience with.

I really hope you get a replacement soon. Don't give up or compromise on anything less at this point. Apple has to make this right and if they don't and treat other customers like you have been treated they are not going to stay a trillion dollar company. Part of their success was built on good customer service, specially in situations with a new device.
 
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