M2 MBA / MBP could be a disappointment

[UBS28]

With the inflation numbers these days, Apple might do something they never do ….. increase the price without a redesign.

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

 

[Technerd108]

With the inflation numbers these days, Apple might do something they never do ….. increase the price without a redesign.

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

??? Where are you getting your information from?? Everything I have read says Apple is planning a major redesign for the new MacBook Air?? New colors and design?? M2 might not be a game changer like M1 but it should have a better process possibly 4nm and better frequencies that scale a little higher than the M1 which would mean better performance and better battery life coupled with a redesign and the new Air should be an awesome device for a LOT of people!!

The price might very well be higher but I think with a better chip and redesign it should be worth it if they don't increase it too much, i.e. a $100 increase would be justified in my opinion.

I have a MBP 16" but instead of an iPad I might pick one of these up for the times when I want to watch a movie or travel somewhere. The cost of a base model once the sales lick in after a few months after release might make it close to the cost of an iPad Pro with M series chip and I prefer the Air MB over a tablet personally.

 

[bobcomer]

It might be prudent to wait for Apple to actually announce the new devices before you jump to conclusions.

 

[JMacHack]

So… any news articles or are you just sourcing the topic for the thread from the voices in your head?

 

[Realityck]

With the inflation numbers these days, Apple might do something they never do ….. increase the price without a redesign.

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

There is no news so why worry?

 

[skaertus]

With the inflation numbers these days, Apple might do something they never do ….. increase the price without a redesign.

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

Apple might, or might not. Or Apple could launch a redesigned MacBook Air with an M2 processor that is significantly faster than the M1. We should wait and see.

 

[macacam]

I'm pretty sure OP's posting habits go as follows:
Drink Double Cappuccino. Take giant bong rip. Post whatever words enter brain. Cross fingers and hope for attention.

 

[AustinIllini]

I could do a handstand walk tomorrow. Seems unlikely but anything is possible

 

[ahurst]

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

I mean, the M1 Air is already overpowered CPU-wise for most of its target audience, but even if Apple does the bare minimum and throws A15 cores into the basic M1 design they should see a healthy speed bump and improvement in thermals/battery life based on Anandtech's A15 vs A14 comparison: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16983/the-apple-a15-soc-performance-review-faster-more-efficient/2

 

[jz0309]

And there is another Apple is doomed post

 

[Apple_Robert]

With the inflation numbers these days, Apple might do something they never do ….. increase the price without a redesign.

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

It is rather illogical to pontificate over potential bad news that you dreamed up yourself. It makes more sense to wait until the new products are released before making a determination as to whether said products meet your current needs.

 

[clevins]

The OP isn't worth the comment I've deleted. No one knows anything about the next Air. At all.

 

[Malus120]

The OP isn't worth the comment I've deleted. No one knows anything about the next Air. At all.

I know this feeling so well LOL. You're part way through drafting a multi-paragraph response and suddenly you realize... WTF am I doing with my life... This OP/thread/poster isn't worth my time.

 

[Xiaojohn]

With the inflation numbers these days, Apple might do something they never do ….. increase the price without a redesign.

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

I think probably you're overwhelmed by the "leaks".

Someone keep release annoying information to "disappointed" people, so that they can degenerate the APPLE brand image.

What we should called this? Cyber attack? Big data attack? Some other terms?

 

[Xiaojohn]

??? Where are you getting your information from?? Everything I have read says Apple is planning a major redesign for the new MacBook Air?? New colors and design?? M2 might not be a game changer like M1 but it should have a better process possibly 4nm and better frequencies that scale a little higher than the M1 which would mean better performance and better battery life coupled with a redesign and the new Air should be an awesome device for a LOT of people!!

The price might very well be higher but I think with a better chip and redesign it should be worth it if they don't increase it too much, i.e. a $100 increase would be justified in my opinion.

I have a MBP 16" but instead of an iPad I might pick one of these up for the times when I want to watch a movie or travel somewhere. The cost of a base model once the sales lick in after a few months after release might make it close to the cost of an iPad Pro with M series chip and I prefer the Air MB over a tablet personally.

stop the rumors, and life will be more happier.

 

[throAU]

And the performance difference between M1 and M2 won’t be noticeable anyway.

I think you'll find it will have more cores and those cores will be measurably faster.

I'd be expecting a 25-50% performance boost - this will be well within the bounds of reality without too much effort on Apple's part based on their A series processor scaling, and the fact they'll be going from TSMC's 5nm process to newer step.

 

[Sydde]

No one knows anything about the next Air. At all.

Well, somebody knows. Even if all they know is that there is no new Air that nobody is working on, someody knows, because if there is a reasonably knowable thing that is established to be knowable, then somebody has to know it, even if what they know is that there is nothing to be reported.

 

[Bandaman]

Such a useful thread.

 

[Neil Harrison]

I would hope apple product designers do!!

 

[Danfango]

In similar news the dinner I am cooking tonight may be a disappointment. But I’m still eating it if I need to.

 

[MajorFubar]

I think it's fair expectation that M2 will be evolutionary not revolutionary. M1 was the revolution. Transitioning to M1 was like your first drive in a V8 muscle-car when all your life you've only ever driven a Land Rover Defender.

 

[Xiao_Xi]

I'd be expecting a 25-50% performance boost

When did Apple achieve such a significant jump in performance?

they'll be going from TSMC's 5nm process to newer step

TSMC 4nm seems to be a small improvement over 5nm.

TSMC and Samsung's 4nm Nodes to Power Top-end Processors in 2022: A Closer Look at the Two | Hardware Times

The 7nm and 5nm races were almost single-handedly dominated by TSMC. Samsung’s 7nm node suffered from a lack of adopters, allegedly due to poor yields, while its 5nm node performs more or less the same as TSMC’s 7nm-class node. Furthermore, the Exynos 2100 which is fabbed on Samsung’s 5nm...

www.hardwaretimes.com

 

[gradi]

When did Apple achieve such a significant jump in performance?

I watched this video recently. Of course, it is speculation, but probably close to correct with regards to performance.

M2 vs M1 Pro vs M1 Performance

If you want to skip past the first 3 minutes that is rumors of what will be announced on March 8th I have it cued up to the beginning of the performance comparison stuff:

 

[MajorFubar]

I think you'll find it will have more cores and those cores will be measurably faster.

I'd be expecting a 25-50% performance boost - this will be well within the bounds of reality without too much effort on Apple's part based on their A series processor scaling, and the fact they'll be going from TSMC's 5nm process to newer step.

I doubt it. Apple's charts will make it look amazing, based, as they will be, on certain specific metrics which will be ideally chosen to illustrate the increased power, but in reality there will be very little real-world difference. A one-generation increment rarely (maybe even never) returns that kind of real-world improvement in performance. The chasmic leap was a result of transition from Intel to M-series RISC. You won't see that again any time soon.

 

[Bodhitree]

I doubt it. Apple's charts will make it look amazing, based, as they will be, on certain specific metrics which will be ideally chosen to illustrate the increased power, but in reality there will be very little real-world difference. A one-generation increment rarely (maybe even never) returns that kind of real-world improvement in performance. The chasmic leap was a result of transition from Intel to M-series RISC. You won't see that again any time soon.

It depends. During the evolution of the A-series in iPhone before the M1 came out there were several performance leaps of 50%+ in a single generation. It’s not that likely that it will happen again, most of the architectural low-hanging fruit has likely been used. And if you consider A14 to A15, not much happened.

But in order to keep up with Alder Lake I think we will need to see a 20% speed bump…