Thanks m'Lord. I had forgotten reading that the Apple silicon has soldered ram for memory and SSD, to prevent such shenanigans as we moders pull to reduce our costs. Still wondering if there are connectors and internal space for a detached SSD install, or is external drive only option? Looks like 800 USD is the price for a 16GB ram M2. I have experienced slowness on rare occasions with 8GB, so doubling that seems the best defense to obsolescence. But weighing cost-benefit, might make sense to put up with rare slowing events and go for the 600 USD model, to save 33%. Who can explain offering customers such poor value options?? Looking at the precipitous drop in the amounts Apple offers for its used gear now adds further fuel to the customers' ire, causing us to ask why we keep coming back for more insults to our common sense.