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My MacBook Pro freezes up and needs to be restarted by holding the power button for 20 sec every other day. Would be inconvenient to have to lift up the mini for that every time especially as it likely sitting somewhere far back on my desk. This button should be at the front.
This is clearly not a normal thing to happen though, something is wrong with your MacBook. Could just be a software issue.
 
It's the cheapest place to put the button. That's their whole reason. Button elsewhere might complicate assembly, especially if it was attached to the aluminium enclosure. It's not cheaper to the point where it would impact selling price, but minor cost savings add up to measurable additional profits after you sell a couple hundred thousand devices. That is everything Tim Cook's Apple is about. Fortunately this will only be a minor annoyance to many people (but will be much worse for some), so it's probably one of the less consequential decisions in this area.
This is a complete guess on your part presented as fact.
 
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Photo headline: "Apple releases new M4 Mac mini in Australia."
 
As a bunch of others have stated, this change is really a bizarre thing to get bent out of shape about. For those that claim they shut down and power up their Macs every single day to save on power, do you do the same when you go to bed for your iPhone? For your microwave? Do you unplug your washing machine when you aren't using it? ...
You are not really comparing apples to apples. Microwave owens and washing machines does not have a sleep mode, instead they go to the low power state when turned off. No one in this thread suggested they are disconnecting the mini from the power grid, only that they like to turn them off (ie put them in low power state) on a daily basis instead of letting it stay in sleep where it consumes approxemately 13% of the power it does when in on/idle mode.
 
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should have put it on the top instead.
Only if it was recessed so setting something on top didn't turn it of or off. How about a iLever, a little L-shaped gadget that you can stick under the corner and use to press the button.

Or mount the mini on its side. The forced ventilation should still work fine. Actually maybe we are holding it wrong, mount it upside down. The power button is on top and below what was the foot so it won't be accidentally pressed, all the ports are still accessible. Use a piece of an old mousepad between the metal former top of the Mini and the desk to prevent scratches and slipping around. That would work. :):)

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What the hell, Apple, what is wrong with you? How did someone not immediately say "NO!" to this and shut it down the second it was brought up? I'm thinking about getting one of these for my 83-year-old mom, and she hates the Apple keyboards so she's not going to have a power button on it. I can tell you right now trying to find that button is going to annoy and confuse her and the box will probably end up behind her desk when she fumbles around with it trying to find the button. Yes, you can leave the power on and sleep it most of the time, but periodically the power needs to be cycled, both on and off.

What is wrong with putting the power button on the front? I just don't get it.
 
People threatening lawsuits against Apple for having their computer on more often and getting increased power bills due to the power button location are hilarious. Left on for a year in sleep mode vs off, you're talking maybe a few bucks. heck of a lawsuit there bub

What I originally posted, which was a comment about what someone else had posted about Apple using our Macs to do some of their processing.

The lawsuit was about power bills when fully using our computers and the potential internet bandwidth being used for such a case, NOT about sleep vs off power consumption.
 
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This is one of those cases that we’ve approached many times with modern Apple. If your use-case doesn’t fit into their narrow view of the target market, toodles to you. We see it with the way the Mac Pro is designed, we see it with the keyboards and mice, we see it with the feature-set prioritized by phone hardware/software improvements. Apple just isn’t interested in a computer for the rest of us or lacks the bandwidth to make such products anymore.
 
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I think this speaks to the intelligence level of the students or the teaching capability of the professors then.

No offense but this is ridiculous and now I see why tech support has to ask if the PC is on or not.
Or it could just be that some of Apple’s designs are simply unintuitive to many. I know having “Apple” and “unintuitive” in the same sentence sounds strange, but as a long time (30+ years) Apple customer I really feel it sounds a lot less strange these days.
 
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I'd like to know the reason for it "needing" to be on the bottom, because this is just stupid and weird.
 
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So literally they are making these useless for a data center got it. I was ready to get my company to buy a pair of these to replace the M1 in our datacenter that compiles our mobile app.

The M1 is rack mounted which looks impossible for these new devices. Great plan.
 
As a bunch of others have stated, this change is really a bizarre thing to get bent out of shape about. For those that claim they shut down and power up their Macs every single day to save on power, do you do the same when you go to bed for your iPhone? For your microwave? Do you unplug your washing machine when you aren't using it? I have a 2006 Mac Mini in my house that stores files for my older Macs to use and does backups for my MacBook and stuff, and it's been running for over 200 days. I don't think I've fully shut down my MacBook Air since I got it last summer, and I rarely ever did it for my 2012 I had before that. Also, you are all acting like lifting up a 1.5-pound Mac once in a while is suddenly the most inconvenient thing in the entire world. :p
I find that sleep mode on MacOS is flaky (it didn’t used to be), so I turn the mac off so that the monitor can go to sleep.
 
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