M4 Pro Chip Benchmark Results Reveal an Extremely Impressive Performance Feat

[fabric17]

m4 mini pro faster than MBP m3 max?? I have serious doubts M4 Pro is much faster single-core and slightly faster multi-core than M3 Max (even the basic one) in "real life" tasks ... waiting for more bench

 

[chucker23n1]

m4 mini pro faster than MBP m3 max?? I have serious doubts M4 Pro is much faster single-core and slightly faster multi-core than M3 Max (even the basic one) in "real life" tasks ... waiting for more bench

It's definitely much faster at single-core, since it's a newer microarchitecture, and runs at a higher clock. A deterioration would be unlikely.

Whether it's faster at multi-core depends on workloads, and on average it isn't that much faster at multi-core anyway.

 

[IvyKing]

Since the major difference between an Mx Pro and Mx Max is the number of GPU cores, I would think the M3 Max would be faster than the M4 Pro on GPU heavy workloads. Memory bandwidth should be better on the M3 Max. OTOH, there are workloads where the M4's single core performance will prevail.

 

[chucker23n1]

Since the major difference between an Mx Pro and Mx Max is the number of GPU cores,

This is true as a rule of thumb, but depends on the generation.

• M1 Max has
  • more GPU cores
  • more memory bandwidth (largely only relevant for the GPU)
• M2 Max has
  • more GPU cores
  • more memory bandwidth
  • higher clock (3.7 GHz vs. 3.5)
• M3 Max has
  • more GPU cores
  • more memory bandwidth
  • same clock
  • fewer e-cores but twice as many p-cores!
• M4 Max has
  • more GPU cores
  • more memory bandwidth
  • same clock
  • fewer e-cores; two more p-cores

So, especially M3 Max has much better CPU perf on multi-threaded, whereas M1 Max has basically identical CPU perf.

 

[aibloop]

It really is a bad time for M chip series. Apple keeps dwarfing the previous generation by huge margin as if the old chip means nothing. M4 Pro faster than M2 Ultra. Baseline M4 faster than M2 Pro, M4 Pro much faster than M3 Pro. I mean come on how do you think people with older M series Macs feel about that?

At this pace, next year baseline M5 chip could be faster than M4 Pro today. I do think some baby steps upgrade like NVidia GPU, or maybe iPhone A series chip feels much better for consumers as you don't feel much gutted when the next gen chip is launched.

Also the iteration update is way too fast, M3 series barely half a year old yet and M4 is already launched (on iPad Pro) and the M3 was getting punched real good. Like whoaaa, really?🤨

M3 was a dead-end 3nm process with no ultra, M2 was a halfstep (M1 overclocked essentially). M4 is the only real generation after M1. So no.

Think of this as the real M2. Why did Apple bother to OC M1 and call it M2? They had just released Apple silicon, they needed to make it look like it is progressing at a tremendous speed.

Why did Apple bother to invest billions into M3? It was a dead end process with awful yield... Same reason... They need to look their best when championing new silicon.

A new processor is a very big motivation to upgrade, and it devalues the computers and devices you bought and own. So it is a BIG incentive to push out every cycle... For profit... Because a new fast cpu/gpu is nr1 incentive to buy (Even if is just a overclock..)


It tells us that the ideal upgrade cycle is every year, for APPLE... And they will push out anything that encourages that.

 

[Melbourne Park]

M3 was a dead-end 3nm process with no ultra, M2 was a halfstep (M1 overclocked essentially). M4 is the only real generation after M1. So no.

Think of this as the real M2. Why did Apple bother to OC M1 and call it M2? They had just released Apple silicon, they needed to make it look like it is progressing at a tremendous speed.

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It tells us that the ideal upgrade cycle is every year, for APPLE... And they will push out anything that encourages that.

Agree with your intent, but M2 wasn't a great step IMO ... especially in the mid ranges, where data paths were reduced.

M3 was a big step in performance - but its production yields were poor. And perhaps that was a cause of no M3 Ultras ... after all Apple did introduce an M2 Ultra.

M4 is a jump in everything but for Apple it's cheaper to make as its yields are much better. Apple have managed to cobble the mid range though by removing RAM options. Perhaps they've done so to make M3 users happier? Because it was possible to buy a 96 GB M3 Binned Max while now with an M4 Pro binned Max although the processor is a big step up, the RAM available is only one third (36GB versus a 96 GB available for the M3 binned Max). I think for a high end processor like the M4 binned Max, 36 GB is a bad joke. IMO one either buys a M4 Pro and if one needs more than 48GB RAM, then the only choice in the notebook is a Max. And tests on performance, many show the M4 Pro as being quicker than the M4 Max capped computer. While that is illogical, something strange it going on the benchmark software. The real issue though is actual use. For most people though the M4 Pro provides better value.