M5 after Intel disapointments

[Breitling65]

After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?

 

[pommephone]

Should I return it and get a Windows machine?

Apparently.

 

[Breitling65]

Apparently.

At least Bill Gates Windows 11 is running anything you onw since Windows 95, crashing, slow but it will run.

 

[hg.wells]

You’re going to need the latest software. Both Photoshop and Movavi run on Apple Silicon.

How old are the versions you are running?

 

[Breitling65]

You’re going to need the latest software. Both Photoshop and Movavi run on Apple Silicon.

How old are the versions you are running?

Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it. Plugins also not cheap. WTF, I will return it if I can't do anything. Only thing is running in MS Office!!! F...k.

 

[Breitling65]

Why customers who paid $1500 for macbook should care about Silicon or Intelicon? Should Apple care about back compatability?

 

[hg.wells]

They do! It’s called Rosetta 2. Which worked great with the switch to Apple Silicon.

Have you downloaded this latest version available from your applications websites with the licenses you have?

 

[Breitling65]

They do! It’s called Rosetta 2. Which worked great with the switch to Apple Silicon.

Have you downloaded this latest version available from your applications websites with the licenses you have?

It need money for all I use to run fine on Intel macbook pro, why? Rossetta is last chance, if not what I need I am going Costco.

 

[hg.wells]

With the licenses you own. Have you gone to those application websites and downloaded the latest installer for your version or software you have?

What version of Photoshop are you using?

 

[TechnoMonk]

Photoshop runs great on my Apple silicon Macs. What versions of these apps are you installing? Download the version that supports apple silicon. You would run in to same problems if you move to windows and can’t install latest versions.

 

[whwang]

This my first time seeing this kind of complaints. Sorry to hear this.

I switched from Intel Macs to M3/M4 earlier this year. Everything runs smoothly, including Photoshop.

 

[bevel]

Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it. Plugins also not cheap. WTF, I will return it if I can't do anything. Only thing is running in MS Office!!! F...k.

Jesus. Which versions?

Look here to see which versions are compatible with MacOS 26:

Adobe apps compatibility with macOS

Learn which Adobe apps are compatible with macOS Sequoia, Sonoma, and Ventura versions. Check system requirements before upgrading.

helpx.adobe.com

If you want to switch to Windows look here to see which versions are compatible with Windows 11:

Adobe apps compatibility with Windows 11

Learn which Adobe apps are compatible with Windows 11 and known issues for Creative Cloud, Acrobat, and other Adobe products.

helpx.adobe.com

Honestly you’re going to be in the same boat running old versions on a new OS no matter if it’s Mac or Windows

 

[seek3r]

Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it. Plugins also not cheap. WTF, I will return it if I can't do anything. Only thing is running in MS Office!!! F...k.

This doesnt seem to be an Intel vs ARM issue then. Adobe doesnt even list versions that old as compatible with the latest MacOS release, period, Intel or ARM. If you were running Tahoe on a supported Intel machine you’d have the same problems AFAICT.

 

[Count Blah]

Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it. Plugins also not cheap. WTF, I will return it if I can't do anything. Only thing is running in MS Office!!! F...k.

Enjoy buying the Windows versions, since you previously purchased the Mac versions.

 

[960design]

Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it. Plugins also not cheap. WTF, I will return it if I can't do anything. Only thing is running in MS Office!!! F...k.

MS Office and Photoshop requirements, I would recommend staying with Windows and Intel ( you have a sense of nostalgia ).
When you migrate over to Pages, Keynote, Numbers and Pixelmator Pro and/or Affinity products, the Mac will be here for you.
You can use 95% of Pages, Keynote and Numbers capabilities on you Windows computer to slowly move you away from the MS / Intel 'dark side'; to be fair Apple has a pretty 'dark side' as well.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

Adobe Photoshop has a native M-chip version. And if your plugins don’t work, simply use the Intel version with said plugins. Creative Cloud allows you to manage the version installed.

 

[G5isAlive]

https://www.movavi.com/adv/videoeditormac-special-offer.html.

You just bought a Ferrari of a computer and you want to run last decade’s software? Upgrade to get the latest tools, you won’t be disappointed.

 

[Contact_Feanor]

Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it. Plugins also not cheap. WTF, I will return it if I can't do anything. Only thing is running in MS Office!!! F...k.

“Just a couple of years” then goes on to say it’s 8 or 9 years old 🤣

Photoshop works faster on my M2 MacBook Pro than it did on the fully specced out ‘19 MBP, only I do use the latest versions. If you “need” those apps for your use, I’m sure they’re a small expense. Photoshop isn’t that expensive as it was before the cc times.

 

[cateye]

At least Bill Gates Windows 11 is running anything you onw since Windows 95, crashing, slow but it will run.

This was maybe true at one point, but with Wintel starting its own architectural changes, older Windows software will often not run on newer machines or installations.

To be unaware of this and to expect single point in time versions of software to work in perpetuity, on Windows or MacOS alike, is not rooted in any kind of reality and hasn’t been for years.

 

[Hajj.david]

MS Office and Photoshop requirements, I would recommend staying with Windows and Intel ( you have a sense of nostalgia ).
When you migrate over to Pages, Keynote, Numbers and Pixelmator Pro and/or Affinity products, the Mac will be here for you.
You can use 95% of Pages, Keynote and Numbers capabilities on you Windows computer to slowly move you away from the MS / Intel 'dark side'; to be fair Apple has a pretty 'dark side' as well.

Office and Photoshop work perfectly fine on macOS, the OP must be using an ancient version and isnt updating for whatever reason

 

[Hajj.david]

At least Bill Gates Windows 11 is running anything you onw since Windows 95, crashing, slow but it will run.

Definitely not true and hasn't been true for over a decade. 16 bit apps were deprecated in Windows 7 (Windows 95 apps were almost all 16 bit apps) They will not run at all. Windows 10 further stopped supporting a lot of Windows XP apps etc.

 

[eddjedi]

If you "own" Photoshop it must be over a decade old, it's been subscription only since 2012. I actually just canned my Adobe subscription last month, as after nearly 20 years of being a customer I felt I was no longer getting value for money from it.

But the point is you can't really complain about legacy software not running on a modern computer, especially when there's been a chip/architecture change in between.

 

[sw1tcher]

After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?

I don't think your Photoshop, Photoshop plug-ins, and Movavi apps you paid for will run on a current Windows machine. So you'll have the same issue with an M5 Mac.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

If you "own" Photoshop it must be over a decade old, it's been subscription only since 2012. I actually just canned my Adobe subscription last month, as after nearly 20 years of being a customer I felt I was no longer getting value for money from it.

But the point is you can't really complain about legacy software not running on a modern computer, especially when there's been a chip/architecture change in between.

Exactly.

If the OP ‘owns’ Photoshop then I would suggest they download Affinity for free instead. Not only will it perform infinitely better, but it will also have more features. Only thing missing are the AI tools, unless you pay for a Canva sub.

 

[Wrangle]

A couple of thoughts… you could try disabling the plugins and see if that helps, and then reinstall them one by one to see if they’re causing issues, and/or you can download & try running Affinity Designer for free as a test; if it runs well, that’s a good indicator that the age of your apps is likely a problem.