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It need money for all I use to run fine on Intel macbook pro, why? Rossetta is last chance, if not what I need I am going Costco.

What are the exact versions of the software you have and what are the latest versions you can access with the licenses you have?

You will need Rosetta [Rosetta2] to run anything that pre-dates Apple Silicon (i.e. pre-2020/2021). All else being equal Rosetta/2 should let you run Intel versions of macOS software though not as quickly as software updated/optimized for Apple Silicon.

Note however that Rosetta/2 won't let you run software that isn't otherwise compatible with the latest OS (Tahoe) and Apple plans to drop Rosetta/2 from macOS 28 (i.e. even if you get all your current software working under Rosetta/2, you'll have to stay on macOS 27 for 3 years after which you'll have to update all your apps or otherwise be unsupported).
 
What are the exact versions of the software you have and what are the latest versions you can access with the licenses you have?

You will need Rosetta [Rosetta2] to run anything that pre-dates Apple Silicon (i.e. pre-2020/2021). All else being equal Rosetta/2 should let you run Intel versions of macOS software though not as quickly as software updated/optimized for Apple Silicon.

Note however that Rosetta/2 won't let you run software that isn't otherwise compatible with the latest OS (Tahoe) and Apple plans to drop Rosetta/2 from macOS 28 (i.e. even if you get all your current software working under Rosetta/2, you'll have to stay on macOS 27 for 3 years after which you'll have to update all your apps or otherwise be unsupported).
A further wrinkle is that OP may be upgrading from a pre-Catalina version of macOS, so if he's still been using 32 bit software that won't run on AS no matter what. Upgrading to a newer version, switching to alternative software (free or otherwise), or sticking with older Intel Macs are the options I see.
 
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After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?

Photoshop, Premiere, Lightroom, etc. run just fine on an M series Mac, so I have no idea why you seem to think otherwise. I've never even heard of Movavi, but if it was never updated for AS that's the developer's fault rather than Apple's... Also, Rosetta is your friend, as it allows the running of x86 apps on Apple Silicon. Apple is not responsible for maintaining or mandating backwards compatibility for deprecated versions of apps when the current versions are running just fine on Apple Silicon.

Final point: if you are really running outdated versions of Photoshop as the thread seems to indicate, then that is your own decision and by extension your responsibility. You would likely run into the same issues with the outdated Adobe software on Windows given how much the software has changed in the last five years alone. Your best option would be to either move to a Creative Cloud subscription and run the current versions of Adobe software or switch to an alternative such as Affinity.
 
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This reads like someone buying a new vehicle and being upset it runs on synth oil instead of Dino oil, so those cases of NAPA 10-30 oil they own won’t get used anymore (I read car analogies are popular in the Mac community 😉).

Not quite sure this analogy holds given when software can now cost more than the hardware. Back when hardware cost 10x the software maybe...

I would say it's more like complaining that a new 4K TV doesn't upconvert well. Replacing individual titles is relatively cheap but replacing a significant library of DVD and such could cost more than today's TV. Not to mention some titles may not be available in 4K.

Not that 4K is bad but sometimes a little backwards compatibility is worth the cost.
 
After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?
The problem is the software not being updated for the new hardware. That’s the way that works.

Probably should’ve confirmed that your primary software was compatible with the new chipset.

But they’ll update soon enough. They have to. Probably caught off guard by that M5 like everyone else.
 
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I have only one question. Since you are using software that is several years old, did you check its compatibility with Apple Silicon Macs in advance? Because for each piece of software it is certainly possible to determine from which version onward Apple Silicon is supported. Or did you actually buy an Apple Silicon Mac and simply assume that the old software would run on it? Or perhaps you knew it wouldn’t run, bought it anyway. Or maybe you didn’t even buy one and are just trolling and came here to bash Apple Silicon Macs.

To me, this case sounds strange, because anyone who uses an old Intel Mac and old software and has even a basic understanding of IT knows that older versions are unlikely to work on Apple Silicon Macs. At the very least, they would investigate this beforehand, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise.
 
If you "own" Photoshop it must be over a decade old, it's been subscription only since 2012. I actually just canned my Adobe subscription last month, as after nearly 20 years of being a customer I felt I was no longer getting value for money from it.
great reply, I have 2 MacBooks intel with CS4 as I use these for a annual autumn graphic design project since 2007
that executes everything they need perfectly!

I put the MBP12' in a box today since I might accident break that moving things around.
that is how important the 2012 MPB is to my career.
the MBA2010 11" is playing music now.
 
After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?
Im sorry but im using photoshop on an m5 with a bunch of plugins and it's running flawlessly.

Maybe you're using older versions of software and its time to upgrade?

*sorry I should of read the thread first.

NVM
 
Definitely not true and hasn't been true for over a decade. 16 bit apps were deprecated in Windows 7 (Windows 95 apps were almost all 16 bit apps) They will not run at all. Windows 10 further stopped supporting a lot of Windows XP apps etc.
win 95 is first 32bit, you could still run apps from that era fine in latest win 11, so? that is 30 years later my friend!
 
A couple of thoughts… you could try disabling the plugins and see if that helps, and then reinstall them one by one to see if they’re causing issues, and/or you can download & try running Affinity Designer for free as a test; if it runs well, that’s a good indicator that the age of your apps is likely a problem.
i am doing too much in photoshop, not sure i want to learn another tool just because of new mac.
 
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After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?

Photoshop runs just fine. If you have plugins that dont run then that’s not on Apple, that’s on the developer to update their product.
 
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Exactly.

If the OP ‘owns’ Photoshop then I would suggest they download Affinity for free instead. Not only will it perform infinitely better, but it will also have more features. Only thing missing are the AI tools, unless you pay for a Canva sub.
so, when you are getting new car you need to get new classes and license to drive? what if you are taxi driver and you need to do your work now?
 
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The problem is the software not being updated for the new hardware. That’s the way that works.

Probably should’ve confirmed that your primary software was compatible with the new chipset.

But they’ll update soon enough. They have to. Probably caught off guard by that M5 like everyone else.
They already were updated. Years ago. OP is not running the latest versions though. They are using ancient versions and refused to update.
 
win 95 is first 32bit, you could still run apps from that era fine in latest win 11, so? that is 30 years later my friend!
You can run them, via various layers of compatibility. In fact, it could be argued that running a Win 95 program on Win 11 is far less seamless than Rosetta, which does "just work".

i am doing too much in photoshop, not sure i want to learn another tool just because of new mac.
It has been repeated several times: you do not need to. Either download the Apple Silicon version of Photoshop or use a newer app.
 
You can run them, via various layers of compatibility. In fact, it could be argued that running a Win 95 program on Win 11 is far less seamless than Rosetta, which does "just work".


It has been repeated several times: you do not need to. Either download the Apple Silicon version of Photoshop or use a newer app.
Guy purchased Photoshop 5 2000 years ago and is now complaining about compatibility issues. Hmmm ....
 
so, when you are getting new car you need to get new classes and license to drive? what if you are taxi driver and you need to do your work now?
More like you bought a much newer gas car, but your old car ran on diesel and you can't transfer the diesel into the new car's tank. Some tech is fundamentally incompatible and that's just how it goes. You could virtualize an older macOS version on your M5, but that's probably going to cost more than you want to pay, too.
 
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sounds like a you problem, not the MacBook. You did zero research to verify the software you need so bad would work? Pirated software and plugins? I heard it’s not hard to find the current versions if you are on a windows laptop.
 
I run Mojave on intel mini (2018) just so I can run Adobe Ps and Ai CS3 that I own. Anything newer than CS5 just adds fluff features, nothing a real designer would ever need or use.
 
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