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Comparing chip that consume 50W with chip that can draw 700W and complain that it is slow just show that you don't really understand were Apple currently is. I think we finally have some competition to Nvidia dominance. Not really for games, but for AI.

It is kind of funny because Nvidia started with games and ended with AI. Nvidia is not 3T company because of games, it is because of AI chips.

Apple with chiplets can make bigger GPUs than we have seen in M4 family.
So not having high-end option is fine? Good luck with that as those who need high performance dont care about the power consumption.
 
LOL, Blender is CPU intensive software and you literally admitted that Apple GPU sucks by comparing M3 Ultra to RTX 4070 and 5070. Remember, Apple compared M1 Max to 90 series.
Please explain how Blender is CPU intensive, I'm dying to hear.

These benchmarks are specifically for benchmarking rendering using the GPU, including ray tracing, in real world scenarios, so it's about as good a benchmark as you're going to get.
 
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Every year new m chip gets released will always show as impressive than the last m chip. I don’t get the point of articles like this. When we know it will be impressive than the last one.
Exactly. Why ever a „news and rumors“ site should report on a new product that was rumored to be released this week and confirm the new specs instead of leaving us to guess if the rumors are true…
 
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Just ran GB6 on my M1 Max:

SC: 2322
MC: 12183

Looks like the M6 series will get us to full 2x on single core. M5 is close to 2x but not quite. (We're already there on MC of course).
I don’t usually upgrade until it’s 2x as that is honestly where you will notice it in everything you do, not just some things. And usually when it’s 2x, all sorts of other improvements went with it in the same model tier that make all other things 2x or more, like networking, disk access and storage capacity, graphics speed, memory speed and capacity, etc.

So as an M1 Pro owner, I may go for the M5 Pro as basically everything about it is going to be 2x or more, other than single core being almost 2x.
 
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I kinda know what will get me according to past examples with Intel Macs.

I sit on latest macos but refuse to do macos26 because nerfing is real. So since i sit on a previous macos, there will be day when it will be an OS issued many years ago. Simply put my old intel mac stopped opening web pages in safari, my software updates started requiring newer os or new installs were totally for newer os.

I hacked it by using chrome, but two years later that thing needed to update to open my banking apps but the update required newer os.

That is when i got a new laptop, even though the last one never glitched.
Yeah, I can’t use my old Intel Mac mini because it doesn’t understand 2 factor authentication so I can’t login to accounts. And no web pages are secure. And I can’t even go to Apple’s website to get a newer OS to maybe get it to work.
 
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The most interesting in M5 is GPU. If we look at blender benchmarks M5 is faster than M1 Ultra. It seems that in M1 family of chips GPU wasn't the strongest in compute. That is about to change with M5 quite a lot.

 
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The most interesting in M5 is GPU. If we look at blender benchmarks M5 is faster than M1 Ultra. It seems that in M1 family of chips GPU wasn't the strongest in compute. That is about to change with M5 quite a lot.

M1 series didn't have any raytracing hardware, so I think that is going to make up a large percentage of the difference.
 
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Dragging along my 2017 Intel MBP, I was hoping for an M5 Pro or max. I need performance cores and the stock M5 won’t be enough. It’s gotten bad enough that I just need a new machine and may cave and go for an M4 Pro. The rumeurs on the M5 Pro seem to be all over the place. If it’s next spring, maybe can chug along th final mile but if w’ere waiting until next fall, forget it.
 
Dragging along my 2017 Intel MBP, I was hoping for an M5 Pro or max. I need performance cores and the stock M5 won’t be enough. It’s gotten bad enough that I just need a new machine and may cave and go for an M4 Pro. The rumeurs on the M5 Pro seem to be all over the place. If it’s next spring, maybe can chug along th final mile but if w’ere waiting until next fall, forget it.
Which is it? You're able to use a 2017 Intel MBP (presumably i7-7820hq variety, not the i5), or you need performance cores, and a stock M5 won't do?
 
Which is it? You're able to use a 2017 Intel MBP (presumably i7-7820hq variety, not the i5), or you need performance cores, and a stock M5 won't do?
I have a Mac Mini M4 for heavy lifting, I want a nearer equivalent in my second machine. The 2017 is only used at present for MS office, browsing and looking at photos (no heavy lifting). I use Logic Pro which is very hungry for P cores. So M5 has 4, M4 Pro 10 - that will be significant improvement.
Should have replaced this a while ago. Laptop life-span really is at most 4-5 years. Grinding along just for the sake of « holding on doesn’t make much sense. So M4 Pro vs « rumored » M5 pro - I lose what, 6-9 months? Sort of what I am thinking at the moment …
Happy to be convinced otherwise …
 
I have a Mac Mini M4 for heavy lifting, I want a nearer equivalent in my second machine. The 2017 is only used at present for MS office, browsing and looking at photos (no heavy lifting). I use Logic Pro which is very hungry for P cores. So M5 has 4, M4 Pro 10 - that will be significant improvement.
Yeah, that's a hard call. It seems the big overhaul on the M5 is the GPU, and Logic is hungry for CPU. As you say, grinding for the sake of holding on doesn't make much sense.

If your current M4 is able to handle your workload, just not ideally, you should be set with the M4 Pro... but you know it's days are numbered, so paying full price as it's about to be replaced isn't appealing... and who knows what other benefits the new chips might have on top of the extra CPU power. Early M5 benchmarks are showing improved SSD speeds, which would be a nice bonus if that holds true on all systems... but none of the improvements are strictly needed. It seems the wait for the M5 Pro is more FOMO than need. I guess whether waiting is worthwhile depends on how much you hate limping along on your 2017 MBP. Assuming you're in the US, B&H and other big vendors often have massive sales. Maybe you can find a deal on an M4 Max, instead... extra power without waiting.
 
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