M5 MacBook Pro Could Launch in October as M4 Model Faces Supply Constraints

[dieselm]

You're not considering the base MX chip in iPads and iMacs are the binned versions with fewer CPU / GPU cores, while the base MX chip in MBP is actually not binned and has the complete cores, you have to sum 10-20% to multi core and GPU in that comparison, as I said, it enters base / binned M4 Pro territory.

The actual numbers will more likely resemble something along these lines:

non-binned M5: Single core 4133, Multi-core 18500, GPU 90000
base (binned) M4 Pro. Singles core 3900 , Multi-core 20000, Metal 97000

M4 in ipad Pro and m4 macbook pro only differed by 1 CPU core. Both have 10 GPU cores.
The CPU core difference was worth about 800 geekbench points.

M5: Single core 4133, Multi-core 16250, GPU 74500

Plenty for diffentiation.

 

[Malus120]

The idea that they'd split up the rollout of the M5 MacBook Pro lineup in this way is asinine. Introducing an M5 MacBook Pro that sits below the M4 Pro/Max would likely create more problems than it solves for Apple.

Unless Apple's leadership has absolutly lost the plot we'll either see:
A. M5/Pro/Max MBP in October
B. M5/Pro/Max MBP in 1H2026 with the M5 debuting first in the iPad

As to whether we'll see OLED MBPs in 2026 if we get M5 in 1H2026... who knows. People love to point to the M3/Pro/Max being announced 9 months after the M2/Pro/Max but I think that was an aberration that Apple probably doesn't want to repeat, particularly given that the OLED MBP will likely entail a whole new chassis that shares very little with prior MBPs.

 

[bollman]

TL;DR:
Anything can happen

 

[lapstags]

The idea that they'd split up the rollout of the M5 MacBook Pro lineup in this way is asinine. Introducing an M5 MacBook Pro that sits below the M4 Pro/Max would likely create more problems than it solves for Apple.

Unless Apple's leadership has absolutly lost the plot we'll either see:
A. M5/Pro/Max MBP in October
B. M5/Pro/Max MBP in 1H2026 with the M5 debuting first in the iPad

As to whether we'll see OLED MBPs in 2026 if we get M5 in 1H2026... who knows. People love to point to the M3/Pro/Max being announced 9 months after the M2/Pro/Max but I think that was an aberration that Apple probably doesn't want to repeat, particularly given that the OLED MBP will likely entail a whole new chassis that shares very little with prior MBPs.

Which makes me believe thist this is the macbook withs an A chip

 

[transpo1]

The idea that they'd split up the rollout of the M5 MacBook Pro lineup in this way is asinine. Introducing an M5 MacBook Pro that sits below the M4 Pro/Max would likely create more problems than it solves for Apple.

Unless Apple's leadership has absolutly lost the plot we'll either see:
A. M5/Pro/Max MBP in October
B. M5/Pro/Max MBP in 1H2026 with the M5 debuting first in the iPad

As to whether we'll see OLED MBPs in 2026 if we get M5 in 1H2026... who knows. People love to point to the M3/Pro/Max being announced 9 months after the M2/Pro/Max but I think that was an aberration that Apple probably doesn't want to repeat, particularly given that the OLED MBP will likely entail a whole new chassis that shares very little with prior MBPs.

I wouldn't use words that strong but the substance is correct:

There's little chance Apple will split up the launch of new MBPs. We'll see everything this year or early next. They need to leave room to launch M5 MacBook Airs in spring.

As for me, I'm waiting for the OLED MBP with M6 2nm chip whenever they launch...be it 2026 or 2027.

 

[svish]

Apple might launch all the new MacBook Pros this month. If only one of them is going to be released this year, don't think there will be an event. In any case, expecting all of them to be released by January. Also expecting an M6 variant towards the end of 2026. Waiting to see what will happen.

 

[MayaUser]

Since we know the ipad pro M5 are coming..probably also the M5 14" Macbook Pro is coming at the same time
Maybe it will be press releases

 

[bLackjackj]

As noted by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, custom configurations of the M4 MacBook Pro model have a delayed shipping date and will not be delivered to customers until October 23 to 28

Where? Certainly not in Australia or rest of the world. Plenty of stock of all configurations & of course the usual 1-2 weeks when you choose particular configs.

Is Mark feeling anxious?

 

[bLackjackj]

Since we know the ipad pro M5 are coming..probably also the M5 14" Macbook Pro is coming at the same time

We already know this. Both are due for an update.

 

[dumastudetto]

Oh joy! Mark Gurman is back playing pin the tail on the donkey again.

 

[ricketysquire]

The real question is if Apple has the courage to give us a MBP in Cosmic Orange..

Apple: Sorry, the best we can do is remove the headphone jack.

 

[Basic75]

What I do wonder is… Does this MBP start with 16 GB if the iPad Pro goes to 12 and 24?
Or does it go up to 18? Or even start at 24?

The base M5 will not support 18GB because 18 can be divided by 9.

 

[rwh63]

Trick or treat?

 

[DaniTheFox]

Not before 21.10. In some countries the back to school ends on that day.

 

[rp2011]

It would be awesome if they also upgraded the Studio.

 

[Corefile]

These blog stories get knotted in what happened in the past. That is largely irrelevant and redundant.

 

[ghostrockk]

Just give us new studio display 2 with higher refresh rates - too many macs now been released without new external displays.

 

[TJFDenver]

Just give us new studio display 2 with higher refresh rates - too many macs now been released without new external displays.

Just ordered DS tilt height adjust nano-textured lightly used on Amazon for 1.5k … not complaining here

 

[jecowa]

The idea that they'd split up the rollout of the M5 MacBook Pro lineup in this way is asinine. Introducing an M5 MacBook Pro that sits below the M4 Pro/Max would likely create more problems than it solves for Apple.

Unless Apple's leadership has absolutly lost the plot we'll either see:
A. M5/Pro/Max MBP in October
B. M5/Pro/Max MBP in 1H2026 with the M5 debuting first in the iPad

As to whether we'll see OLED MBPs in 2026 if we get M5 in 1H2026... who knows. People love to point to the M3/Pro/Max being announced 9 months after the M2/Pro/Max but I think that was an aberration that Apple probably doesn't want to repeat, particularly given that the OLED MBP will likely entail a whole new chassis that shares very little with prior MBPs.

From a chip-production standpoint, it makes sense to produce the smaller non-Pro chips before the larger Pro, Max, and Ultra chips. Out of the devices that use a non-Pro M chip, the non-Pro MacBook Pro is probably most-deserving to receive it first, unless maybe they plan on giving it to the upcoming version of Apple’s Vision headset. Last year the iPad Pro got the M4 chips first.

 

[StoneyG]

If we presume there will be an update in the next few weeks, I wonder if the vanilla M4 CTO/BTO models are have a longer lead-time simply because they are ordered far less than either the stock M4s or any of the Pro and Max models. I'm too tired to explain that I don't necessarily think that it's a sign that we may only see M5 units only soon.

(It could all be in proportion, yadda.)

I've got nothin'. Call me Mark Gurman II.

 

[svish]

I've often wondered whether it would behoove Apple to put the regular M5 in the 16". So you would have the choice between M5, M5 Pro, and M5 Max on both sizes.

I would like to see a simple 16” Pro. Don’t want all the power the Pro chips bring. Just a nice screen with 120Hz. Could price it at $1999 or $2099.

 

[Fingernail]

Yup. I ordered a 14" M4 Pro last week so I could have a modern Sequoia machine.

Same here.

 

[liriel_]

I sound dumb because I admit I am when it comes to this and you can tell me sooner. My Macbook 14" is doing ok. I can buy it now or a year later. I just want 126 GB RAM (don't hate on me, it's my choice, I need the best I can get, I'm using a lot of RAM).
I can wait a year for OLED. I remember all the issues from the past decade about OLED TVs. Do you suspect Oled MacBooks Pro will have issues in Oled? I admit, if I upgrade everything and then after a year there comes a new Oled version I probably would think "I could have waited a few months more".

 

[jecowa]

I sound dumb because I admit I am when it comes to this and you can tell me sooner. My Macbook 14" is doing ok. I can buy it now or a year later. I just want 126 GB RAM (don't hate on me, it's my choice, I need the best I can get, I'm using a lot of RAM).
I can wait a year for OLED. I remember all the issues from the past decade about OLED TVs. Do you suspect Oled MacBooks Pro will have issues in Oled? I admit, if I upgrade everything and then after a year there comes a new Oled version I probably would think "I could have waited a few months more".

I think OLED is good now. iPhones have been using OLED displays for 8 years now.

 

[picpicmac]

No one seems to have brought up the possibility that there will be and M5 for MBP and then an M6 for the "Max" and "Pro" variants a few months later. TSMC can produce both, in parallel, in different fabs.