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I can't see very complex application suites like the Adobe Creative Suite, AutoCAD, or even Microsoft Office coming to this anytime soon, if for no other reason than I don't think the App Store will support the DRM schemes those programs use. (I know the App Store will have DRM of a sort, but I think that Adobe et. al. would rather use their own.)

I would imagine it would be the 'giving 30% to apple' part that Adobe and others would have issues with, rather than the DRM.
 
... Actually I would just assume get rid of each company's DRM and replace with a single one. ...

That's a dangerous move. Although it makes things easier and more streamlined for the user, it also creates a single point of failure for crackers. Just look at the iOS app store. The moment they figured out how to patch those apps, every app in the store was compromised. Even if Apple patches the vulnerability, crackers will just find a new one, just like the jailbreakers do now.

The way things work now, it takes time to crack each individual app. Some are harder than others, and the more obscure ones never get cracked. If they put everything in the Mac App Store then hackers can concentrate all of their time and resources one crack because all apps on the app store use exactly the same DRM. Crack one, crack them all.
 
I would imagine it would be the 'giving 30% to apple' part that Adobe and others would have issues with, rather than the DRM.

That figure needs to be offset against the reduction in producing and transporting physical media from $unknown to $0. There may also be a cut for resellers that Adobe would no longer have to pay.

I think the major developers will sit back and watch for a while. However, if the iOS AppStore is anything to go by, they will soon want a piece of the action.

Maybe, if Adobe took a look at their pricing and licensing structure, they could make some adjustments that make owning their products legitimately a little more enticing.
 
App Store = breeding ground for crappy shareware by developer wannabes. It'll be full of $3.99 apps that do nothing useful.

I sure hope all the fartapps get ported over from iOS.
 
I like the idea of being able to search the app store for apps to open files, but that really, really should not be the default choice as pictured here. I prefer apps I own over apps I don't, thank you very much.
 
Oh please! Do you seriously think that Apple just forgot about them? :rolleyes:

1. Widgets are still available to download on the Apple website.
2. As are RSS Feeds.
3. Would you seriously sell your Macbook Pro if these two minor features were made temporary unavailable? :rolleyes:

1. One shouldn't.
2. Those are not minor features. I am pretty content with the widgets that I have now but if there aren't new widgets, then I'm going to be disappointed.
3. I don't think the widgets will go anywhere.
 
If either of you ever got that "feature" of Windows to work correctly (or at all), you're better people than me.

Well assuming you have the correct program to open the file. I find it works rather well, you can even choose it to use that program defaultly if you want.
 
Has that feature ever actually worked for you? I have never found that it did in my usage.

That is exactly what I was thinking. In all my years of using Windows, and people I know as well, never once has it suggested an application/driver for a file online.

Apple's intentions seem very obvious; the elimination of physical media. First came digital music, then iOS applications, movies, and now programs. Steve Jobs may refuse to implement Blu-Ray as Apple is slowly phasing out DVD media (CD media has been phased out w/ digital music downloads, I can't remember the last time I burned a CD). Apple has also streamlined applications to carry a smaller footprint. Leopard was re-written from the ground up to Snow Leopard, smaller than Leopard w/ Intel only code (PPC support dropped) and OS X applications such as iCal streamlined, requiring less HDD space.

Point: As ISP's such as Verizon begin to offer faster download speeds through improved fiber optics such as FiOS, media will be primarily available online. Few applications will be sold on physical media in stores. Gone will be the days that DVD media is sold in shrink-wrapped paper boxes. Apple has recently committed to environmental awareness; less DVD's, less packaging, less carbon footprint from shipping = less environmental waste and less money required to sell merchandise. It's a win/win = less e-waste and more profit. I suspect the new N.C. data center's primary function will be housing the digital media such as applications to consumers.
 
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That is exactly what I was thinking. In all my years of using Windows, and people I know as well, never once has it suggested an application/driver for a file online.

Apple's intentions seem very obvious; the elimination of physical media. First came digital music, then iOS applications, movies, and now programs. Steve Jobs may refuse to implement Blu-Ray as Apple is slowly phasing out DVD media (CD media has been phased out w/ digital music downloads, I can't remember the last time I burned a CD). Apple has also streamlined applications to carry a smaller footprint. Leopard was re-written from the ground up to Snow Leopard, smaller than Leopard w/ Intel only code (PPC support dropped) and OS X applications such as iCal streamlined, requiring less HDD space.

Point: As ISP's such as Verizon begin to offer faster download speeds through improved fiber optics such as FiOS, media will be primarily available online. Few applications will be sold on physical media in stores. Gone will be the days that DVD media is sold in shrink-wrapped paper boxes. Apple has recently committed to environmental awareness; less DVD's, less packaging, less carbon footprint from shipping = less environmental waste and less money required to sell merchandise. It's a win/win = less e-waste and more profit. I suspect the new N.C. data center's primary function will be housing the digital media such as applications to consumers.
fios is not all over and other isp are much slower. also comcasts download cap is bad for this.

There is no way office and photo shop will be in the app store with the UP to 5 systems and the 30% cut is to much.
 
fios is not all over and other isp are much slower. also comcasts download cap is bad for this.

There is no way office and photo shop will be in the app store with the UP to 5 systems and the 30% cut is to much.

Oh I know, believe me, which is why I stated:

Point: As ISP's such as Verizon begin to offer faster download speeds through improved fiber optics such as FiOS, media will be primarily available online.

:)

It wasn't too long ago that downloading music was slow and the rapid recent improvements in internet speed are providing consumers with fast online connectivity. Combine this with my statement regarding smaller software footprint and the fact that Apple and other software companies are splitting suites in order to sell individual applications, it isn't a huge leap in logic to realize that applications will eventually become downloaded media.

As for the 30% cut, as someone else already stated, it may very well be a wash considering that companies selling their applications via the App Store would not need to print the media on DVD(s), package it, ship it, and in some instances pay retailers any applicable fees. Those aspects are very close to 30% of product costs. Given this, selling via the App Store would not cut into profit margins, it will allow for broader distribution by making the software more readily available for purchase without the costs of current production and shipping costs. It's all about marketing and thinking through the process. In the end, it's a win/win.
 
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Working in retail, i can tell you, that those 30% are in the same range as was it costs to bring software on a physical disc via a retailer to the customers. Actually i think it might be a bit lower.



Oh, and for many devs the appstore will be more comfortable then selling the software through their own website, they won't have to maintain a store, keeping it secure, dealing with credit card companies etc. So yes the 30% Apple takes are not too high, i actually think they're quite fair.
 
That's a dangerous move. Although it makes things easier and more streamlined for the user, it also creates a single point of failure for crackers. Just look at the iOS app store. The moment they figured out how to patch those apps, every app in the store was compromised. Even if Apple patches the vulnerability, crackers will just find a new one, just like the jailbreakers do now.

Name one major app released in the last 10 years that wasn't cracked within a week, proprietary DRM or no. DRM punishes no one but the people who spend the money to legally purchase a crippled product while the illegal downloaders get a fully-functional product for free. It's one more reason to avoid paying for a product, not an inducement to buy.
 
This is a REALLY BAD idea.
Many file extensions are used by different applications for a completely different sort of file.
Take for example if some application use .project as the extension.
You search the app store to see what opens this, there are five completely different apps, they all cost $5.

To a novice user, how are they going to know what to buy? Knowing Apple they will make it near impossible to get a refund, so this will just make a lot of customers really angry.

Not a good way to launch the app store.
 
Is this going to be another tab in iTunes or will it be a stand alone app?

It seems like a standalone app but if integrated into iTunes would have a much larger installer base.

Just wondered.

I don't think it's going to be in iTunes. It all seems to be pointing towards the :apple: - menu.

Re confusing file extensions: this I find is probably for those more common ones that you might not have installed on your computer (sit, zip) rather than an Adobe or Quark file type. I think you'd be fairly safe if you sent a Photoshop file type and had a choice between Photoshop Lite or TrojanHorsePhotoEditor Lite.;) On a side note it might be useful to have some message if an incompatible extension sprang up (.exe springs to mind), although I'm aware an error message does come up atm.
 
The "search app store" button should NOT be default in the dialog, "choose application" should remain default. I don't want o be hitting the enter key to be drifted away to a store that is going to waste a heap of my time. This is shameless self selling prostitution.
 
This is a REALLY BAD idea.
Many file extensions are used by different applications for a completely different sort of file.
Take for example if some application use .project as the extension.
You search the app store to see what opens this, there are five completely different apps, they all cost $5.

To a novice user, how are they going to know what to buy? Knowing Apple they will make it near impossible to get a refund, so this will just make a lot of customers really angry.

Not a good way to launch the app store.

In that case, you use common sense and do some research.
 
BFD, ,this is functionality Windows had many many years ago. At least MS didn' t try sell you some BS app in the process of resolving an issue for you.
 
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