Mac book pro is a good alternative

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by ellaimac, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. ellaimac macrumors regular

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    Dont you guys see the REAL reason behind the MBP, Name says it, Its a portable Mac Pro. 16 gigs ram? Possible with MBP. Retina? coming soon. Good processor? IS I7 NOT GOOD ENOUGH?!? Large screen? Ever heard of Thunderbolt?

    Sorry if the thread sounds rant-ish.
     
  2. barredfreak macrumors 6502

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    The MBP can be considered as a portable Mac Pro, because of the power that it packs. I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand the point of you posting this thread.
     
  3. RedCroissant, Jun 4, 2012
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    Yeah, and you're right if you want a partial Mac Pro experience. Some pros however would need: the large amount of storage, multiple processors, 32GB of RAM or even the 64GB possible on the MP for some of their work, the desktop versions of graphics cards, and the ability to support up to 3 displays. But yes, the MBP is nice; I am enjoying mine.
     
  4. TableSyrup macrumors 6502

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    Some of us need the PCIe slots for cards that cost us $3500 - $10,000
     
  5. Cindori macrumors 68040

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    Great, it's a portable Mac Pro.

    Now if you don't want a portable computer?


    /troll thread.
     
  6. goMac macrumors 603

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    Lemme know when they get a desktop class GPU, 12 cores, and four hard drive bays in the Macbook Pro...
     
  7. Doc69 macrumors 6502

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    Big = Cool

    One of my biggest reasons for preferring full size desktop computers, is that they have adequate cooling and thus are very silent compared to smaller or portable ones. I almost never hear the fans on my Mac Pro, but my Macbook Pro, well, it thinks it's a small airplane. ;)
     
  8. zephonic macrumors 65816

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    Mixed bag, this. My '09 MacPro is noisy as hell while my '07 iMac is whisper-silent.
     
  9. Wardenski macrumors 6502

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    Sounds silly.

    The people who downgraded Cindoris wise post should be shot.
     
  10. -hh macrumors 68020

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    I suspect that the question was based strongly on an assumption that if a loaded MBP has 'enough' power for their personal needs, that this configuration should also be good enough for anyone else.

    Of course, this isn't necessarily the case. For but one personal example, my 2009 Mac Pro currently has 24 GB of RAM installed, so the (current) MBP's maximum of 16GB would clearly represent a step down in capability.

    Now this doesn't mean that a MBP isn't a nice machine...it is. But it simply isn't necessarily a complete replacement for a Mac Pro, notwithstanding a Thunderbolt port.


    -hh
     
  11. pprior macrumors 65816

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    Spoken like a teenage girl who uses her mom's iphone....

    Oh, wait.

    One of the first lessons you must learn, grasshopper, is to be aware that it's not what you know that limits you, it's what you do -not- know. And what you do -not- know is that many of us actually use apps that will eat your pathetic mac book pro and spit it out in a crumpled ball, begging for mercy.

    The whole supposition is just, well, stupid and sounds like something a know-it-all teenager would write.

    Oh, wait.
     
  12. xgman macrumors 601

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    If the Op is asking, and not ranting, then the short answer is no. However, if you are happy with what the macbook pro provides and like portability, then by all means go for it. It doesn't cut it for me however for a variety of reasons that have already been stated to death all over the forums.
     
  13. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    The REAL reason for MBP is so Apple can sell you a laptop. Move along.
     
  14. strwrsfrk macrumors regular

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    I don't understand the purpose of this post. It's a bit confrontational about a really broad, generalized premise. So is she (as Cindori speculated out) trolling, or attempting to gather more information?

    So, an attempt to answer the actual questions (and perhaps a few more):

    1) 16GB RAM is not good enough for running multiple virtual machines, heavy 3D/video/multi-channel audio editing in real time, etc. Not to mention many use the Pros as servers.

    2) Retina is of value to only certain people. In the aforementioned server example (especially if it's headless), it is literally a useless feature.

    3) 4-Core i7 with 8 threads is not enough in many case. Multiple professional applications scale well beyond 8 cores, so every additional core/thread is precious seconds, minutes, or even hours saved (which reall can add up over the lifetime of a professional machine). On top of that, the maximum CPU speed for the MBP right now (quad-core) is 2.2GHz, and a 6-core Mac Pro can get to 3.33GHz (supported).

    4) Thunderbolt serves to externally connect peripherals - often in less fast, powerful, or efficient ways than proper internal connectors. It has real potential, but ultimately you're always considering an external option to an internal one (and that's just scratching the surface).

    5) Cooling - which I believe has been touched upon before - is much better in a desktop than a laptop. Particularly when the laptop is tasked with intensive workloads. MBPs have been known to get very hot with even reasonable tasks.

    6) Graphics power is important to many people. Digital artists, anyone utilizing GPU-acceleration, gamers, etc. Most even mid-range desktop graphics solutions trump the best mobile options available to MBPs, and that's again not even considering the heat.

    7) Future-proofing. This is limited for Mac Pros in their own way, but Mac Pros offer a longevity that most mobile computers simply can not, especially if you move up from a base model. 8 slots for RAM, 2 slots for CPUs, 4 PCIE slots... expecting a Mac Pro to be powerful and relevant for 5+ years worth of software advancements and requirements is a given; the same is not true for any mobile computer.

    I am not bashing MacBook Pros. I love them, and have owned a half-dozen in my time. But they fill their niche as the Mac Pros fill their own.
     
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    Remember that the first MacBook Pro was released before the first Mac Pro. Using the same logic, a Mac Pro is a more capable MacBook Pro :D
     
  16. dbit macrumors regular

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    Troll. Has to be. If not, then, well, let's just say, um... yeah. Bath salts?
     
  17. goMac macrumors 603

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    I don't know why everyone is buying the Macbook Pro. The Macbook Air is a good alternative. I mean, do you really need >2 ghz? Firewire? 8 gigs of RAM? EVER HEARD OF THUNDERBOLT?
     
  18. Dr. Stealth macrumors 6502

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    Ha !

    Never gonna Happen........

    My MacBook Pro is wonderful for what its made for. Checking email, web browsing, keeping in touch with the office, portability..... Etc.

    But I could NEVER do my actual work on it. That's why I own a Mac Pro.

    I have no use for thousands of dollars worth of Thunderbolt cables and boxes.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. scottsjack macrumors 68000

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    Who would even consider penning a serious reply to such obvious slop?
     
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    Which is handy when your com is in your bedroom and you have a lot of rendering and you'd like to get some sleep VS the sound of your hair dryer / Mbp working its nads off to rendering ( with the added stress of 'will my Mbp melt in the night?')
     
  22. InuNacho macrumors 65816

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    Aww jeeze, I've left my poor Blackbook on overnight while it sat there trying to write a 15 minute clip with 3 filters on it. Thought the thing was going to be a lump of molten plastic in the morning.
     
  23. 24Frames macrumors regular

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    But if you had an MBP you could just put it in another room and not suffer from the additional heat and noise!
     
  24. ellaimac thread starter macrumors regular

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    I guess apple should rename their MBP line to, just MacBook.
     
  25. Guezzwho macrumors newbie

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    Or to Macbook Semi-Pro
     

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