I have very old powermac G4 with os 9 installed and recieved a Leopard Install disk that it just won't boot.
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Do you know what model G4 you have? Older G4's (under 800MHz) wont run Leopard without Open Firmware CPU speed spoofing or helper tools.
Are you sure your G4 has a DVD drive?
Are you sure your G4 has a DVD drive?
Interesting! Can you detail the steps you took? I ask because I have a Rage 128 AGP in the Leopard G4/450 at work and a Rage 128 PCI card in my QS running Leopard at home.As an aside, I managed to use Rage 128 kexts from Tiger in my Leo install
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Hugh
Both cards work, so I don't know what drivers they are using under Leopard, but if I can make it better, I'm all for it.
I loosely followed the guidance here for my Pismo G4 - http://nanchatte.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/installing-old-ati-rage-pro-128-video-drivers-from-tiger-into-leopard/ - using the kexts from my Tiger installation.
It's probably a Pismo only thing, but I get screen artifacts every time the cursor changes from the pointer to the hand, and DVD player only shows a black screen. Before applying ATI kexts I was not getting artifacts, but DVD player wouldn't open up at all. The graphics have otherwise improved greatly so I'm not that bothered.
I still have the kexts if the website's download link does not work.
Cheers
Hugh
It's probably a Pismo only thing, but I get screen artifacts every time the cursor changes from the pointer to the hand, and DVD player only shows a black screen. Before applying ATI kexts I was not getting artifacts, but DVD player wouldn't open up at all. The graphics have otherwise improved greatly so I'm not that bothered.
I still have the kexts if the website's download link does not work.
Cheers
Hugh
Thanks! I'll try this when I get home. Right now, I have no issues. If a web page is loading the monitor that's connected to the Rage card will have the cursor flicker in time with the loading. But that's the only issue. I put it down to the fact that that monitor is actually an HDTV though. But, I will give this a try.I loosely followed the guidance here for my Pismo G4 - http://nanchatte.wordpress.com/2008...ro-128-video-drivers-from-tiger-into-leopard/ - using the kexts from my Tiger installation.
It's probably a Pismo only thing, but I get screen artifacts every time the cursor changes from the pointer to the hand, and DVD player only shows a black screen. Before applying ATI kexts I was not getting artifacts, but DVD player wouldn't open up at all. The graphics have otherwise improved greatly so I'm not that bothered.
I still have the kexts if the website's download link does not work.
Cheers
Hugh
There's no issues with the monitor at work, so again, no idea what driver is being loaded, but if I can get better options and this works at home I will try it on the Mac here at work.
Thanks!
Well, since you provided it right here I just had to try it on the G4 at work, I don't notice any difference as far as the Mac operating. The display is the same as before.Tiger ATI kexts attached for those who need 'em
Cheers
Hugh
But, I booted in Verbose mode and this time the system indicated that the Rage drivers loaded, instead of the warning about it being too old. Performance (speed in doing things) seems to have picked up, even with only 256mb ram on this G4.
Now I have something to look forward to with my Quicksilver when I get home from work! Thanks very much for this!
Good to hear !
I feel it's always important to share those little titbits around for others and keep the PPC flag flying.
By the way, I have found reference to some ATI drivers from a Leopard beta, but haven't managed to get at them yet. They're probably the same as the Tiger ones though.
Cheers
Hugh
I feel it's always important to share those little titbits around for others and keep the PPC flag flying.
By the way, I have found reference to some ATI drivers from a Leopard beta, but haven't managed to get at them yet. They're probably the same as the Tiger ones though.
Cheers
Hugh
Let us know if you find them.Good to hear !
I feel it's always important to share those little titbits around for others and keep the PPC flag flying.
By the way, I have found reference to some ATI drivers from a Leopard beta, but haven't managed to get at them yet. They're probably the same as the Tiger ones though.
Cheers
Hugh
To reciprocate, one of the users here mentioned once that the kexts for the PowerBook G4 fans under Jaguar are better performing than the ones under Leopard. I've replaced them on one of my PowerBooks (the dead one I think, but maybe not). Anyway, see what I can find when I get home tonight. The PB is at home.
Should that be useful for anyone anyway.
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If I can find the thread about this, I'll either repost to it or open a new one. Good idea.Great, something for me to play with tomorrow morning before work.
Cheers for that
If this carries on shouldn't we start a new thread?
Hugh
EDIT: I just reread my post and it sounds as if I'm meaning that ALL the kexts are better. I edited the post. What I meant was the kexts for FAN control for PowerBooks, not just Albooks. And the one from 102.8, not Tiger. Sorry to mislead anyone.
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from what i know when i got it it had os10.5.8 and me being stupid enough installed os 9 on top of it
OK, good so far, it seems Apple sent you a 'Media Replacement' disk which is basically a retail version.
One of these?
So, if your G4 is above 867MHz it should boot, if below the threshold there will be some work to do to get it going.
Cheers
Hugh
One of these?
So, if your G4 is above 867MHz it should boot, if below the threshold there will be some work to do to get it going.
Cheers
Hugh
My disk is pretty much the same as yours except it says 'Mac OS X Leopard' instead of 'Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.1' is from 2007 and has the exact same serial number.
Apple have sent me 2 disks and both have the same issue i cant boot to them. For general knowledge it is the 'C' key during boot isn't it?
Also how do I check the MHz of the system and the graphics cards specs? In os 9?
Apple have sent me 2 disks and both have the same issue i cant boot to them. For general knowledge it is the 'C' key during boot isn't it?
Also how do I check the MHz of the system and the graphics cards specs? In os 9?
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Yes, it's the C key for booting to CD/DVD, or better still, hold down the alt (option) key immediately after the power button. That will give a list of bootable sources.
Here's how to find out your specs in OS 9 - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1048893/
Cheers
Hugh
Here's how to find out your specs in OS 9 - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1048893/
Cheers
Hugh
I looked at the settings and it is 500MHz, has a 37GB Hard drive, has a Pioneer DVD-ROM Drive and an ATI Rage 128 Pd (PRO) at 16MB Of VRAM Am I Stuffed of what are my alternatives? I just tried to boot using the 'alt' key and it dosen't even pick up the drive.
Am I Stuffed of what are my alternatives? I just tried to boot using the 'alt' key and it dosen't even pick up the drive.
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i read somewhere that my old power mac can only support 10.4.11 is there any was to push the limit so to speak to accept leopard.
Yes there is, use LeopardAssist http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardassist/ written by iMacC2D a member here - see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1685169/.
I think you need to have a version of OS X installed before running it though.
Cheers
Hugh
I think you need to have a version of OS X installed before running it though.
Cheers
Hugh
That machine can still boot Leopard without any modification, it's the Leopard installer that does the checks. LeopardAssist isn't needed to modify your machine to allow Leopard to install on it. All you need to do is search for the instructions that are done through OpenFirmware.